Marine Diesel Prices are Outrageous
 

"Dan" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
Paul Cassel wrote in
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I'm in agreement that diesel engines are disgusting polluters, but
they are all we have in marine life. We can either use them or use
nothing, IMO. I won't sail with petrol engines due to the safety
issue. I have twice been personal witness to yachts exploding due to
petrol fumes - both times with deaths.

That's odd.....No NOx output, nearly unmeasurable CO, spews out carbon
black but only if you romp it too hard, only spews fuel if your
injection is setup way wrong....

What's so disgusting about diesel? Mine are all BURNING
POLLUTANTS....waste frying oil! Frying oil doesn't even make SULPHUR
Dioxide!

www.frybrid.com


Larry

Yours? You own diesel engines now? On what?

Larry drives around stinking up the Charlston area with old french fry
oil in his Mercedes tank.

The puppy speaks again! Good boy!

Well..well...mention "stinking up the area" and look who pops up...Dirty
Dan!

Marine Diesel Prices are Outrageous
 

Don White wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
Paul Cassel wrote in
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I'm in agreement that diesel engines are disgusting polluters, but
they are all we have in marine life. We can either use them or use
nothing, IMO. I won't sail with petrol engines due to the safety
issue. I have twice been personal witness to yachts exploding due to
petrol fumes - both times with deaths.

That's odd.....No NOx output, nearly unmeasurable CO, spews out carbon
black but only if you romp it too hard, only spews fuel if your
injection is setup way wrong....

What's so disgusting about diesel? Mine are all BURNING
POLLUTANTS....waste frying oil! Frying oil doesn't even make SULPHUR
Dioxide!

www.frybrid.com


Larry
Yours? You own diesel engines now? On what?
Larry drives around stinking up the Charlston area with old french fry
oil in his Mercedes tank.
The puppy speaks again! Good boy!

Well..well...mention "stinking up the area" and look who pops up...Dirty
Dan!




You know, we could run a "whores' race" to determine the worst bottom
feeder in the newsgroup. Early favorites: Dirty Dan, Reggie Retardo,
Herringbrain John. Tell you this, the stench they create in my bozo bin
is something to behold!

Marine Diesel Prices are Outrageous
 

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:38:47 +0000, Larry wrote:


The oil we pump in the vehicles is so clear you can read
through it. A gallon clear water bottle of it sits on my porch so I can
watch for it to get cloudy in winter, which, in South Carolina, it has
only done twice last year. A second clear bottle of the 80% oil/20%
gasoline I WAS using last winter in the unmodified cars is also up there
and it never clouds, at all.

I don't understand. Does cloudy == freezing?

Marine Diesel Prices are Outrageous
 

This whole thread is pretty goofy considering all the two stroke
British Seagulls out there using 10:1 oil mix. Course the newer ones use
25:1 !

Marine Diesel Prices are Outrageous
 

"HK" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
link.net...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Larry wrote:
Paul Cassel wrote in
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I'm in agreement that diesel engines are disgusting polluters, but
they are all we have in marine life. We can either use them or use
nothing, IMO. I won't sail with petrol engines due to the safety
issue. I have twice been personal witness to yachts exploding due to
petrol fumes - both times with deaths.

That's odd.....No NOx output, nearly unmeasurable CO, spews out
carbon black but only if you romp it too hard, only spews fuel if
your injection is setup way wrong....

What's so disgusting about diesel? Mine are all BURNING
POLLUTANTS....waste frying oil! Frying oil doesn't even make SULPHUR
Dioxide!

www.frybrid.com


Larry
Yours? You own diesel engines now? On what?
Larry drives around stinking up the Charlston area with old french fry
oil in his Mercedes tank.
The puppy speaks again! Good boy!

Well..well...mention "stinking up the area" and look who pops up...Dirty
Dan!


You know, we could run a "whores' race" to determine the worst bottom
feeder in the newsgroup. Early favorites: Dirty Dan, Reggie Retardo,
Herringbrain John. Tell you this, the stench they create in my bozo bin is
something to behold!


You might have to call the septic tank cleaners in on occasion to remove
their posts.

Marine Diesel Prices are Outrageous
 

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
link.net...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Larry wrote:
Paul Cassel wrote in
:

I'm in agreement that diesel engines are disgusting polluters, but
they are all we have in marine life. We can either use them or use
nothing, IMO. I won't sail with petrol engines due to the safety
issue. I have twice been personal witness to yachts exploding due to
petrol fumes - both times with deaths.

That's odd.....No NOx output, nearly unmeasurable CO, spews out
carbon black but only if you romp it too hard, only spews fuel if
your injection is setup way wrong....

What's so disgusting about diesel? Mine are all BURNING
POLLUTANTS....waste frying oil! Frying oil doesn't even make SULPHUR
Dioxide!

www.frybrid.com


Larry
Yours? You own diesel engines now? On what?
Larry drives around stinking up the Charlston area with old french fry
oil in his Mercedes tank.
The puppy speaks again! Good boy!
Well..well...mention "stinking up the area" and look who pops up...Dirty
Dan!

You know, we could run a "whores' race" to determine the worst bottom
feeder in the newsgroup. Early favorites: Dirty Dan, Reggie Retardo,
Herringbrain John. Tell you this, the stench they create in my bozo bin is
something to behold!


You might have to call the septic tank cleaners in on occasion to remove
their posts.




Hazardous waste removal...

Dirty Dan, Reggie Retardo, and Herringbrain John...the troika of trash.

Marine Diesel Prices are Outrageous
 

thunder wrote in news:pan.2007.07.22.04.07.26
@TAKEOUTgti.net:

I don't understand. Does cloudy == freezing?



As temperature drops, unwinterized diesel fuel, as well as frying oil,
solidifies at some temperature. If it gets really cold, it looks like
Crisco. Crisco has a much higher melting point than Canola oil, which is
what most of the frying oil is.

So, systems like Frybrid, HEAT the oil, using the hot water from the
heater hose off the engine to heat the pickup area of the tank, the oil
lines to the engine, the fuel filter, and a big heat exchanger that
raises the oil to 160F which makes it have the same viscosity as diesel
fuel for proper injection before feeding it through some switching valves
to the injection pump. Viscosity of it varies greatly with temperature.
Hotter is thinner, obviously. At the smoking point on a stove, it's like
water.

We can run on Crisco if you get it hot enough. Diesel engines were
originally designed for vegetable oil, but when it was discovered they'd
run on dino fuel oil and kerosene which was dirt cheap at the time, they
started running them all on dino fuel oil. It'll run on anything that
will burn if you can figure out how to inject it at TDC just right, even
liquified wood.

The "Cloud point" of unwinterized diesel fuel, which is quite simply
diesel and gasoline mixed, is around 30F. Vegetable oil clouds around
45F, so if you're going to run it in winter, raw, you need to heat it.
That's what the Frybrid and other oil heater systems do...so we can
inject it.

If diesel manufacturers would change their injection system back to
vegetable oils, all these "conversions" would be unnecessary. Mercedes
diesels specify you may burn heavier #3 diesel oil if you mix it with
kerosene, right in their manual. Us frying oil injectors have just taken
that a few steps further...(c;

Larry
--
Riding down the interstate at 70 for nearly free feels just wonderful!

Marine Diesel Prices are Outrageous
 

Bruce wrote in
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self serving bull****.

Wilbur is a professional. Don't try this at home!

Larry
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Marine Diesel Prices are Outrageous
 

Gordon wrote in
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This whole thread is pretty goofy considering all the two stroke
British Seagulls out there using 10:1 oil mix. Course the newer ones
use
25:1 !


This is also an interesting point......

According to the greenies, because we were ALL burning gas mixed 10:1 or
15:1 with Quaker State SAE 30 motor oil from the Flying A for the first
100 years or so of outboard motor technology, by the millions......All
the lakes in the USA should be between 6 inches and 3 feet deep in greasy
motor oil the old motors used to be covered with, preventing them from
ever corroding, by the way.

The lakes, as you may have noticed, where greasy outboard motors leave a
trail of pollution on their surfaces...but who are not being used as a
sewer by cities and industries...are just fine and full of fish. Why is
that? Could 2-stroke Quaker State EVAPORATE...like it does in the
crankcase?? What a silly idea! That's not going to create panic and a
government grant that goes on forever!

Case in point is the lake I grew up on, Owasco Lake in the Finger Lakes
of upstate NY. Everyone had septic tanks or cesspools, even in Moravia,
my hometown. There was no "sewer system" until the Feds moved in and
forced everyone to feed a new system that dumped its **** into the
"Inlet", the inlet to Owasco Lake. We all drank the lake water while
fishing for the first 18 years of my life. The lake was overrun on any
Saturday with nasty old Evinrudes, Kieffauver Mercurys, Johnsons, Scott
A****ers (Grandpa had a Scott 40 on the big boat), etc. We ran 10:1
tractor gas with Quaker State SAE 30 in it. When I was little, I used to
get to pour the oil into the gas can....by the quart! I still love that
smell...(c; The lake was full of fish, bullheads, pickerel, walleyed
pike, trout, bass, etc. Bullheads used to run towards the Coleman gas
lanterns my grandfather and his friends would line the shore with after
dark and we would snatchhook them as fast as you could cast. Everyone
had 3 or 4 freezers to stuff them all in.

Then the greenies showed up. We had to stop polluting the valley with
our septic tanks, cesspools, ****ing in the lawns, and all the old 1800's
"camps", little houses along the lake used by the city folks only in
summer, had to tear down their outhouses behind the garages across the
dirt road from their camps. (If you were out fishing and "had to go",
you simply stopped at any lakeside camp, knocked on a door, and asked to
use their outhouse. It was fine. The BEST nightcrawlers for more
fishing were in the leaves right behind the outhouses, too...real
MONSTERS!) Towns were all forced into the sewage business. It dumped
into the inlet, polluting the lake.

Google "Owasco Lake", with the quote marks for better sorting. Read the
terrible reports of algae blooms, dead fish, etc., that is Owasco Lake,
Sewer, in 2007. They should have left my lake and its people alone.
They were fine.....

Larry
--
So was their old, blue Evinrude Sportwins going fishing at 5AM.....

Marine Diesel Prices are Outrageous
 

HK wrote:
Verizon News wrote:
The cost of marine diesel for your boat is outrageous these days. I am
all for businesses making an honest buck and I am all for

http://www.billharder.com/boating/39...are-outrageous




Here's a suggestion.

Next time there is a national election, work to defeat GOP oil whore
candidates like Bush and Cheney, who hold secret meetings with the
petrol industry to establish a "national energy policy" aimed at
enriching big oil at the expense of everyone else. Work to elect
populist candidates who will work to moderate rapacious corporations and
who will not be afraid to impose excess profits taxes on those screwing
the public.
Who is being offered by the two parties? They are both playing the
globalist, partnership of business and government, tear up the
Constitution game.
Nay a word from either side of the aisle about reigning in the oil
cabal that has a stranglehold on our economy.
Inflation is correctly defined as devaluation in our present time.
George Bush's mandate is globalism. He said he is a globalist. Oeioke
seem to take some good interpretations of that word as to what this
partnership of government and big (global) business is doing to our
economy and the destruction of our Constitution and Republic.