Dammit......
 

NOYB wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

All major corporations want these days is the cheapest possible workforce,
and if that means exporting jobs to China or India, so be it. The righties
think this is "good" for our economy, but it will do us in sooner rather
than later.

The only hope is to elect a president and congress in 2008 who will do
something to stem the flow of jobs. Those are more likely to be democrats
than republicans.

Baloney. Duncan Hunter is about as protectionist as you can get.

My personal pick is Mitt Romney.





Duncan Hunter has about as much chance as either of us to be nominated.
Your nominee will be Guiliani, Romney, or Tired Old Fred.

Is Mitt for the war in Iraq, or against it? Or was he for it and is he
now against it? Mr. Flip-Flop..,he'll be fun to Swiftboat.

Dammit......
 

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:12:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"JimH" ask wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
snip...
The unions were good to me. Except for those 2 pricks I never had
problems with management either. *Guys like them are the reason
there's unions*. They'll lie and steal you blind, and get you killed
for a buck.
snip
--Vic

Bingo!
If everyone was treated fairly & with respect why would they willingly
pay those union dues year after year.
(not counting a few cases where a particular union may hold a business
hostage to enrich it's members above their fair value)

Stop living in the 1920s Don.

Unions cause mediocrity...........everyone receives the same pay increase,
despite their abilities and contributions.

The same 'minimal' increase. Nothing stops a corp from rewarding
exceptional workers.




That's right. The union rate in most contracts is the minimal rate.
There is nothing to prevent an employer from rewarding exceptional
workers more expansively.

Unfortunately, the basic union rate is already excessive in most
cases. The cost of employment of American union workers has initiated
the move to outsourcing. It certainly is sinking Chrysler and the
rest of the American auto industry, huh?

My ex-wife tells the opposite stories concerning unions. One of union
corruption and greed. Of her, and her fellow UAW workers, of being
able to purposefully shut down GM production lines, with malice, and
then being protected by their union goobs and keeping their jobs.
Just for fun.

Unions have reaped what they have sown. It used to take hard work, a
college education, and a serious work ethic to have a Cadillac and a
big screen TV. Now every High School dropout that gets a union job
thinks they are entitled.

That's why the move to Indian and China. That's why the unions are
getting their butts kicked.

They need to wise up. They are ruining my country.

Dammit......
 

I earned enough in the summer to just about cover
the next year's tuition, books and room and board, thanks to the
American union movement!

Hail to the unions! I'm glad that they were able to keep tuition costs down
for you! :-

--Mike

"HK" wrote in message
...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:13:02 -0000, Tim wrote:
Well If that's not cheap enough, I suppose one could try some
basskisser-brew

Don't know about that, and I didn't think that Canadian Ace was that
bad either. For years and years I drank Old Style at bars all over
Chicago. That was the common Chicago tap beer, and I enjoyed it.
I always ordered the bottle.
Then I was living in Queens a while and was drinking Schaefer and
Miller. When I went back to Chicago I stuck with Miller.
One day a brain short-circuit caused me to order a bottle of Old Style
like an old habit. It stunk, and I wondered how I drank it for all
those years.
Anyway, I'm a snob now, and drink mostly Zywiec and Hacker-Pschorr
Weisse. But I do some slumming too.

--Vic


Schaefer...the one beer to have when you want to belch up beer breath.

I drank Piels for a while when I drank beer because I liked Bert and Harry
Piel, aka Bob Elliot and Ray Goulding. Best commercials ever. Among the
worst beers ever.

One summer while in college my father got me a job on the loading dock at
Hulls' Export Beer in New Haven. I loaded kegs and cases of bottles onto
trucks all day long. Work rules required a cold keg on the dock at all
times to "refresh" the grunts who did the loading. I'm afraid those days
are long, long gone.

http://tinyurl.com/395jnv


Those were the days. I earned enough in the summer to just about cover the
next year's tuition, books and room and board, thanks to the American
union movement!

Dammit......
 

Jack Goff wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:12:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"JimH" ask wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
snip...
The unions were good to me. Except for those 2 pricks I never had
problems with management either. *Guys like them are the reason
there's unions*. They'll lie and steal you blind, and get you killed
for a buck.
snip
--Vic
Bingo!
If everyone was treated fairly & with respect why would they willingly
pay those union dues year after year.
(not counting a few cases where a particular union may hold a business
hostage to enrich it's members above their fair value)
Stop living in the 1920s Don.

Unions cause mediocrity...........everyone receives the same pay increase,
despite their abilities and contributions.
The same 'minimal' increase. Nothing stops a corp from rewarding
exceptional workers.



That's right. The union rate in most contracts is the minimal rate.
There is nothing to prevent an employer from rewarding exceptional
workers more expansively.

Unfortunately, the basic union rate is already excessive in most
cases. The cost of employment of American union workers has initiated
the move to outsourcing. It certainly is sinking Chrysler and the
rest of the American auto industry, huh?


Sorry, Jackoff, but bad management and pursuit of short-term profit is
what sunk American manufacturing, that and the cost of providing health
care insurance to workers, which U.S. car manufacturers pay for but
Japanese car manufacturers do not.

Dammit......
 

On Jul 17, 8:54 am, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:45:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Around here, liquor stores compete to see who can sell crappy beer at
the lowest price. Miller Lite seems to be the "leader." I have a buddy
whose favorite is Miller Lite and he offers me a can from time to time.
I tried it once, and thought it the most awful concoction that ever bore
the name "beer." But it is a big seller.

I never could figure out why anybody would drink "lite" beer.
But as you say, they do. Sometimes it's a problem for me on
a picnic where whoever brings the beer gets nearly all "lite."
I might have one of the few non-lites then switch to soda.
Better anyway, since daytime beer drinking in the sun ends up giving
me a headache if I drink more than one or two.

--Vic

Make your own beer, It's chaeper than schlitz and you get what you
want. Five gallons of premium brew costs me about 25 bucks to make.

Dammit......
 

Dammit......
 

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:34:56 -0000,
wrote:

On Jul 17, 8:54 am, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:45:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Around here, liquor stores compete to see who can sell crappy beer at
the lowest price. Miller Lite seems to be the "leader." I have a buddy
whose favorite is Miller Lite and he offers me a can from time to time.
I tried it once, and thought it the most awful concoction that ever bore
the name "beer." But it is a big seller.

I never could figure out why anybody would drink "lite" beer.
But as you say, they do. Sometimes it's a problem for me on
a picnic where whoever brings the beer gets nearly all "lite."
I might have one of the few non-lites then switch to soda.
Better anyway, since daytime beer drinking in the sun ends up giving
me a headache if I drink more than one or two.

--Vic

Make your own beer, It's chaeper than schlitz and you get what you
want. Five gallons of premium brew costs me about 25 bucks to make.

I keep meaning to try that, but just haven't been drinking enough beer
to do it. Sometimes I go weeks before grabbing a beer, which is bad.
Beer is good for you. I have to get a routine for a daily beer or
two.

--Vic

Dammit......
 

On Jul 15, 11:40 am, "JimH" ask wrote:
..........north winds again and the Lake is capping. Maybe it will settle
down later as the wind is supposed to shift by mid afternoon

Dammit, Dammit, Dammitttttt! So my family has been busy with a new
member of the family all summer. Finally got them all in the truck to
head for the lake. Quick 23 mile trip to Mashapaug, Coming up the last
long hill, right before the exit I hear the unmistakable harmony of a
tire about to go. Come off the exit with a shattered tire. Grab
everything we can off the boat, load into the blazer and take the
family home and regroup. Grabbed the cooler, some sandwiches, and a
guitar and went to wait out AAA. Now of course we are showing rain for
the next few days, this sucks.

I think I might buy 2 tires and hubs as a 50 dollar spare would have
saved the day. Could have been worse, a few years back I spun an axle
in South Carolina, another time, a water pump in Virginia. I don't
have good luck with cars either.

Dammit......
 

Dammit......
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

All major corporations want these days is the cheapest possible
workforce, and if that means exporting jobs to China or India, so be it.
The righties think this is "good" for our economy, but it will do us in
sooner rather than later.

The only hope is to elect a president and congress in 2008 who will do
something to stem the flow of jobs. Those are more likely to be
democrats than republicans.

Baloney. Duncan Hunter is about as protectionist as you can get.

My personal pick is Mitt Romney.





Duncan Hunter has about as much chance as either of us to be nominated.
Your nominee will be Guiliani, Romney, or Tired Old Fred.

Hunter will be the VP candidate, and if he isn't he should.



Is Mitt for the war in Iraq, or against it? Or was he for it and is he now
against it? Mr. Flip-Flop..,he'll be fun to Swiftboat.

You guys might shoot your load too early trying to swiftboat Mitt. The only
position that he has "flip-flopped" on is abortion...and pointing out that
that he now takes a pro-life stance after taking a pro-choice stance in
order to win the governorship in MA only solidifies his standing in the
Republican primary.

You should save the flip-flop accusations for *if and when* he becomes the
nominee. It might sell well during a general election with independents
who are pro-choice. But it's not going to sell well with Republicans who
are glad he has "finally seen the light".

Democrats are scared of Romney. He has managed to steal the health care
issue with Romneycare. He is smart, articulate, accomplished, and good
looking. The man has also led a life that is beyond reproach. They'll be
no dirty tricks or last-minute skeletons for an October surprise.

I guess that's why the Dems are sending their attack dogs at the Boston
Globe against him.