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JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Man it's hot outside.

Freakin' Global Warming...

Same here.........temps in the 90's. You have to feel for the roofers,
construction workers and road workers.

I collected garbage for the city of Parma for 2 summers when I was in high
school. Even when you are in shape days like this are tough.

Cold front coming through tonight. Man.......we need some rain!

It already hit here. thismorning the fron stepped in and temp dropped
to 68 degrees at 6:30 am. temp now is about 82 and very low humidity,
and nary a cloud in the sky.

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On Jul 11, 3:01 pm, jps wrote:

And if I answer your three questions, will you let me cross your
bridge? Sandy Berger made sure we will never know how much the
Clintons were involved, had knowledge of, or even told the Bush
administration. Specualate all you want, scream from the top of the
mountain that you beleive the Clintons to the end, then why did they
have to destroy documents, I specualte that they did not tell Bush
everything, but I won't stand on a stump and declare it "truth" beyond
doubt, and call anyone who does not agree, stupid...

OH MY GOD. I knew this was all the Clinton's fault all along. "I
speculate they did not tell Bush everything" as if you'd be in a
position to speculate on such a thing.

I was mocking you dork! I know none of you have the integerity to
seriously answer the question.

Whatever Sandy Berger destroyed can't be 1/1000th of what Bush destroys
on a daily basis. If Clinton commuted the sentence of an aide who could
have been instrumental in impeachment proceedings, you'd have
simultaneously **** your pants and popped an artery.

What, retarded, childish speculation? Are you a hypocryte or just
liar?

Not even Fox (Republican talking points distributor) News would have the
gall to share your rich fantasy.

Again, speculation based on nothing at all but ideology and childish
emotion. If I were your boss I would fire you, I have noticed that
spoiled little children with no moral core can get you in a lot of
trouble in their ever constant self indulgence.

jps

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On Jul 11, 3:01 pm, jps wrote:
Not even Fox (Republican talking points distributor) News would have the
gall to share your rich fantasy.

jps-

You never even watched FOX. But regurgetated lies are fine for the
intellectually lazy. It's not FOX bias Hillary and others are afraid
of, they have been guaranteed unedited interviews. It is the idea of
having to actually answer a question without the benefit of a 10
second talking point, and the possiblily of having to answer a
followup quesiton. It gets me that otherwise good folks can just spout
this kind of crap to protect those they know could never stand up to a
real news confrence with unscripted questions. But you just keep
saying it, at least half of the folks you debate will know how
ignorant, or at least dishonest you really are.

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On Jul 11, 4:08 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:

I have noticed that

spoiled little children with no moral core can get you in a lot of
trouble in their ever constant self indulgence.

Indeed, look at all the trouble Cheney has caused with his
self-indulgent bull****.

I would love to, can you state any facts or just more talking points
designed to deflect from the Dems, no plan, plan...

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On Jul 11, 4:38 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 11, 4:08 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:

I have noticed that

spoiled little children with no moral core can get you in a lot of
trouble in their ever constant self indulgence.
Indeed, look at all the trouble Cheney has caused with his
self-indulgent bull****.

I would love to, can you state any facts or just more talking points
designed to deflect from the Dems, no plan, plan...

Facts about the problems Cheney has created for us and the rest of the
world with his self-indulgent bull****?

There isn't enough bandwidth on the internet for sort of dissertation.

You really need to unplug yourself from reich-wing media...or else get a
higher pair of jackboots.

So, you really have no facts then?

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jps wrote:

Not even Fox (Republican talking points distributor) News would have the
gall to share your rich fantasy.

jps

I'm a republican and I don't talk points distributors anymore. With
both of my boats, I've gotten rid of the ignition points and gone with
HEI.

I installed Pertronix ignition kits in both. I really can't say they
initially start any easier, but after warm up, the engines kick right
off with very little effort. The performance is snappier, and I get a
lot better fuel per hr. I wouldn't go back to pioints distributors
if I had to.

On my 23' Marquis with the 5.7 GM (350 chevy) I'm even thinking on
going with an "MSD" (Multiple Discharge System) to see if I can add
even more spark performance. on cruise they don't do much, but under
load at 4000 rpm, I think the engine will perform better yet.

For no more than a MSD kit costs, It's at least worth a try.

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On Jul 11, 5:01 pm, jps wrote:
In article om,
says...

On Jul 11, 3:01 pm, jps wrote:

And if I answer your three questions, will you let me cross your
bridge? Sandy Berger made sure we will never know how much the
Clintons were involved, had knowledge of, or even told the Bush
administration. Specualate all you want, scream from the top of the
mountain that you beleive the Clintons to the end, then why did they
have to destroy documents, I specualte that they did not tell Bush
everything, but I won't stand on a stump and declare it "truth" beyond
doubt, and call anyone who does not agree, stupid...

OH MY GOD. I knew this was all the Clinton's fault all along. "I
speculate they did not tell Bush everything" as if you'd be in a
position to speculate on such a thing.

I was mocking you dork! I know none of you have the integerity to
seriously answer the question.

What is there to answer? Your supposition is pure fantasy whereas the
acts taken by the Bush administration are in plain public view. Bald-
faced and obviously quid pro quo.

Simple, what do you think Sandy was protecting, you are obviously not
against speculation?

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On Jul 11, 4:59 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 11, 4:38 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 11, 4:08 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
I have noticed that
spoiled little children with no moral core can get you in a lot of
trouble in their ever constant self indulgence.
Indeed, look at all the trouble Cheney has caused with his
self-indulgent bull****.
I would love to, can you state any facts or just more talking points
designed to deflect from the Dems, no plan, plan...
Facts about the problems Cheney has created for us and the rest of the
world with his self-indulgent bull****?

There isn't enough bandwidth on the internet for sort of dissertation.

You really need to unplug yourself from reich-wing media...or else get a
higher pair of jackboots.

So, you really have no facts then?

Please. Play that d.f. right-wing card game on someone else. I'm not
going to waste any time or make any effort to refute your reich-wing
political simplemindedness. You're not worth it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No harry, you have nothing. Has nothing to do with what I am worth, At
least I am really a boater so I already bring more to this table than
you!

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OK, well start slow, tell me a lie O'Rielly told? Or is it just your
emo way of saying you did not like what he said?

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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:08:51 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
I have noticed that
spoiled little children with no moral core can get you in a lot of
trouble in their ever constant self indulgence.

Indeed, look at all the trouble Cheney has caused with his
self-indulgent bull****.

Harry, did you get your computer fixed?":
--
John H

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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:01:59 -0700, jps wrote some more
political trash:

snippage

OH MY GOD. I knew this was all the Clinton's fault all along.

jps

Did Clinton own a Whaler? Wonder if he thought it was a rough riding boat
in anything over 6" . That little 15'er would definitely get up and go with
the 70hp Johnson it came with.
--
John H

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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:00:05 -0000, Tim wrote:

jps wrote:

Not even Fox (Republican talking points distributor) News would have the
gall to share your rich fantasy.

jps

I'm a republican and I don't talk points distributors anymore. With
both of my boats, I've gotten rid of the ignition points and gone with
HEI.

I installed Pertronix ignition kits in both. I really can't say they
initially start any easier, but after warm up, the engines kick right
off with very little effort. The performance is snappier, and I get a
lot better fuel per hr. I wouldn't go back to pioints distributors
if I had to.

On my 23' Marquis with the 5.7 GM (350 chevy) I'm even thinking on
going with an "MSD" (Multiple Discharge System) to see if I can add
even more spark performance. on cruise they don't do much, but under
load at 4000 rpm, I think the engine will perform better yet.

For no more than a MSD kit costs, It's at least worth a try.

I took the points out of the Moto Guzzi also. Put an electronic ignition in
it, and it has run like a bandit since. I've not had to adjust the timing
in three years!

--
John H

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:08:51 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
I have noticed that
spoiled little children with no moral core can get you in a lot of
trouble in their ever constant self indulgence.

Indeed, look at all the trouble Cheney has caused with his
self-indulgent bull****.

Harry, did you get your computer fixed?":
--
John H

John... why are you always instigating trouble?
We know you don't boat any longer, but what about your golf proshop job?
Sell many tees?

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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:12:29 -0700, jps spewed forth
some more hate speech:

Do you really have a boat, or were you just bs'ing? I'm starting to think
you've been doing a lot of leg pulling lately. What engine are you running
on this boat?
--
John H

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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:59:28 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Jul 11, 4:38 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 11, 4:08 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
I have noticed that
spoiled little children with no moral core can get you in a lot of
trouble in their ever constant self indulgence.
Indeed, look at all the trouble Cheney has caused with his
self-indulgent bull****.
I would love to, can you state any facts or just more talking points
designed to deflect from the Dems, no plan, plan...
Facts about the problems Cheney has created for us and the rest of the
world with his self-indulgent bull****?

There isn't enough bandwidth on the internet for sort of dissertation.

You really need to unplug yourself from reich-wing media...or else get a
higher pair of jackboots.

So, you really have no facts then?

Please. Play that d.f. right-wing card game on someone else. I'm not
going to waste any time or make any effort to refute your reich-wing
political simplemindedness. You're not worth it.

Harry, did you fix the computer that accidentally responded to my post a
few hours ago? Maybe you've got a virus that just responds to posts
randomly. Or maybe your 'filter', the one you're so proud of, broke.
--
John H

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On Jul 11, 5:47 pm, jps wrote:
In article .com,
says...

OK, well start slow, tell me a lie O'Rielly told? Or is it just your
emo way of saying you did not like what he said?

oh for god's sake, the guy can't open his mouth without lying.

I will be waiting for an example.

Let's start with the hundreds of armed lesbian gangs that wield pink
guns. The agency that monitors gangs confirmed a grand total of 1
lesbian gang coming anywhere near his description.

Bzzzzzzt. Those statements were made by a guest during a segment, a
retired police officer that said, well, almost that, (I am gettin used
to your exagerations, but it is close enough for now) not O'Reilley.
Let me say this again, the fact is, Bill did not say that.
Furthermore, the misrepresentation had been openly acknowledged and
corrected. IIf you really watched FOX like you say, you would have
probably known that. In fact two nights ago Bill gave the head of
Glaad ten minutes to rebut and discuss the segment, apologized for his
guests remarks, and set the record straight, Period. Of course, if you
really watched FOX, which you suggest to bolster your positition, you
would have known about at least one of these facts. You suggest that
you seek both sides, the facts don't support that.

The guy is a serial liar that will rarely correct himself, even with the
facts shoved in his face. Blowhard idiot. Should have been a game show
host.

So anyway, let's stick to the point, you still have not backed up your
assertion that Bill is a liar. But I hope you will try again;)

If you're watching him you should also be watching Olbermann as a
counter-balance.

Pot, Kettle, Black..

Start with this one:

http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?...b2b-49e5-81ff-
003005828d82&p=Source_Countdown&t=c1149
&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/&fg=

Like I said, it's not bias you are afraid of, it is the idea of being
expected to answer a question, with a real answer, based on real facts.

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wrote:
On Jul 11, 5:47 pm, jps wrote:
In article .com,
says...

OK, well start slow, tell me a lie O'Rielly told? Or is it just your
emo way of saying you did not like what he said?
oh for god's sake, the guy can't open his mouth without lying.

I will be waiting for an example.

Let's start with the hundreds of armed lesbian gangs that wield pink
guns. The agency that monitors gangs confirmed a grand total of 1
lesbian gang coming anywhere near his description.

Bzzzzzzt. Those statements were made by a guest during a segment, a
retired police officer that said, well, almost that, (I am gettin used
to your exagerations, but it is close enough for now) not O'Reilley.
Let me say this again, the fact is, Bill did not say that.
Furthermore, the misrepresentation had been openly acknowledged and
corrected. IIf you really watched FOX like you say, you would have
probably known that. In fact two nights ago Bill gave the head of
Glaad ten minutes to rebut and discuss the segment, apologized for his
guests remarks, and set the record straight, Period. Of course, if you
really watched FOX, which you suggest to bolster your positition, you
would have known about at least one of these facts. You suggest that
you seek both sides, the facts don't support that.
The guy is a serial liar that will rarely correct himself, even with the
facts shoved in his face. Blowhard idiot. Should have been a game show
host.

So anyway, let's stick to the point, you still have not backed up your
assertion that Bill is a liar. But I hope you will try again;)

If you're watching him you should also be watching Olbermann as a
counter-balance.

Pot, Kettle, Black..

Start with this one:

http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?...b2b-49e5-81ff-
003005828d82&p=Source_Countdown&t=c1149
&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/&fg=

Like I said, it's not bias you are afraid of, it is the idea of being
expected to answer a question, with a real answer, based on real facts.

There are about 10,000 hits for the subject of Bill O'Rally's lies.

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On Jul 11, 6:35 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 11, 5:47 pm, jps wrote:
In article .com,
says...

OK, well start slow, tell me a lie O'Rielly told? Or is it just your
emo way of saying you did not like what he said?
oh for god's sake, the guy can't open his mouth without lying.

I will be waiting for an example.

Let's start with the hundreds of armed lesbian gangs that wield pink
guns. The agency that monitors gangs confirmed a grand total of 1
lesbian gang coming anywhere near his description.

Bzzzzzzt. Those statements were made by a guest during a segment, a
retired police officer that said, well, almost that, (I am gettin used
to your exagerations, but it is close enough for now) not O'Reilley.
Let me say this again, the fact is, Bill did not say that.
Furthermore, the misrepresentation had been openly acknowledged and
corrected. IIf you really watched FOX like you say, you would have
probably known that. In fact two nights ago Bill gave the head of
Glaad ten minutes to rebut and discuss the segment, apologized for his
guests remarks, and set the record straight, Period. Of course, if you
really watched FOX, which you suggest to bolster your positition, you
would have known about at least one of these facts. You suggest that
you seek both sides, the facts don't support that.
The guy is a serial liar that will rarely correct himself, even with the
facts shoved in his face. Blowhard idiot. Should have been a game show
host.

So anyway, let's stick to the point, you still have not backed up your
assertion that Bill is a liar. But I hope you will try again;)

If you're watching him you should also be watching Olbermann as a
counter-balance.

Pot, Kettle, Black..

Start with this one:

http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?...b2b-49e5-81ff-
003005828d82&p=Source_Countdown&t=c1149
&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/&fg=

Like I said, it's not bias you are afraid of, it is the idea of being
expected to answer a question, with a real answer, based on real facts.

There are about 10,000 hits for the subject of Bill O'Rally's lies.

And even more for Clinton murders, and alien abduction.

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On Jul 11, 6:35 pm, HK wrote:

O'Reilly lies while talking about his lies
I've scanned this page several times and I've yet to see any of the
O'Reilly lies in print. Maybe some of you libs can come up with some
facts instead of ...http://www.jimgilliam.com/2005/09/or...t_his_lies.php
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This was an interesting one, someone else can't really find any lies,
thanks for that;) You will read down and note that the detractors just
call names and spew propoganda, as usual, with nothing to back it up...

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On Jul 11, 6:35 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 11, 5:47 pm, jps wrote:
In article .com,
says...

OK, well start slow, tell me a lie O'Rielly told? Or is it just your
emo way of saying you did not like what he said?
oh for god's sake, the guy can't open his mouth without lying.

I will be waiting for an example.

Let's start with the hundreds of armed lesbian gangs that wield pink
guns. The agency that monitors gangs confirmed a grand total of 1
lesbian gang coming anywhere near his description.

Bzzzzzzt. Those statements were made by a guest during a segment, a
retired police officer that said, well, almost that, (I am gettin used
to your exagerations, but it is close enough for now) not O'Reilley.
Let me say this again, the fact is, Bill did not say that.
Furthermore, the misrepresentation had been openly acknowledged and
corrected. IIf you really watched FOX like you say, you would have
probably known that. In fact two nights ago Bill gave the head of
Glaad ten minutes to rebut and discuss the segment, apologized for his
guests remarks, and set the record straight, Period. Of course, if you
really watched FOX, which you suggest to bolster your positition, you
would have known about at least one of these facts. You suggest that
you seek both sides, the facts don't support that.
The guy is a serial liar that will rarely correct himself, even with the
facts shoved in his face. Blowhard idiot. Should have been a game show
host.

So anyway, let's stick to the point, you still have not backed up your
assertion that Bill is a liar. But I hope you will try again;)

If you're watching him you should also be watching Olbermann as a
counter-balance.

Pot, Kettle, Black..

Start with this one:

http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?...b2b-49e5-81ff-
003005828d82&p=Source_Countdown&t=c1149
&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/&fg=

Like I said, it's not bias you are afraid of, it is the idea of being
expected to answer a question, with a real answer, based on real facts.

There are about 10,000 hits for the subject of Bill O'Rally's lies.

And now that I have had a chance to read some of these links, I see
nothing but what you have here on rec.boats. Lots of sensational
accusations, with nothing backing any of them up.. I am getting tired
of reading fairy stories.

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Still nothing?? You don't really watch fox, you just said that. Of
course, the whole buying into the Media Matters story about Bill
really gave you away. Later, going fishing now, there's nothing to see
here.

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On Jul 11, 5:47 pm, jps wrote:
In article .com,
A bunch of stuff he heard, which was quickly debunked as plain rubbish.

Still nothing?? You don't really watch fox, you just said that. Of
course, the whole buying into the Media Matters story about Bill
really gave you away. Later, going fishing now, there's nothing to
see
here.

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On Jul 11, 10:52?am, "JimH" ask wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Jul 11, 8:38?am, wrote:
On Jul 11, 4:31 am, Chuck Gould wrote:

We need to come together. It's time to stop blaming everything on
Clinton, for sure, and it's about time to start trying to fix,
together, anything that may have gone sideways under the present
Executive.

And if I answer your three questions, will you let me cross your
bridge? Sandy Berger made sure we will never know how much the
Clintons were involved, had knowledge of, or even told the Bush
administration. Specualate all you want, scream from the top of the
mountain that you beleive the Clintons to the end, then why did they
have to destroy documents, I specualte that they did not tell Bush
everything, but I won't stand on a stump and declare it "truth" beyond
doubt, and call anyone who does not agree, stupid...

????????????????????????????

Thanks for demonstrating my previous point, but beyond that I have no
idea why you would suggest I'm screaming from a mountaintop that I
"believe the Clintons to the end".

If jps isn't going to accomplish anything by "blaming" Bush and his
conservative supporters (and he isn't), what is to be accomplished by
"blaming" Clinton? Looks like I touched a nerve- sorry. Didn't mean to
put you into a defensive mode.

Hey Chuck.......what happened to your "No Politcal Postings" pledge? ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My posting isn't political in any way. It's a request for jps to
*stop* confrontational political posting and an observation that the
rancor created by political posts is destructive. How the heck is that
political?
Does a statement that we should work together to try to solve common
problems serve only one side of the political spectrum? Darn tragic,
if that's the case.

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On Jul 11, 10:45?am, wrote:
On Jul 11, 1:08 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:

On Jul 11, 8:38?am, wrote:

On Jul 11, 4:31 am, Chuck Gould wrote:

We need to come together. It's time to stop blaming everything on
Clinton, for sure, and it's about time to start trying to fix,
together, anything that may have gone sideways under the present
Executive.

And if I answer your three questions, will you let me cross your
bridge? Sandy Berger made sure we will never know how much the
Clintons were involved, had knowledge of, or even told the Bush
administration. Specualate all you want, scream from the top of the
mountain that you beleive the Clintons to the end, then why did they
have to destroy documents, I specualte that they did not tell Bush
everything, but I won't stand on a stump and declare it "truth" beyond
doubt, and call anyone who does not agree, stupid...

????????????????????????????

Thanks for demonstrating my previous point, but beyond that I have no
idea why you would suggest I'm screaming from a mountaintop that I
"believe the Clintons to the end".

Just found it interesting how you worded it. Defending the Clinton
admin and pointing at the current admin at the same time as saying we
need to stop doing that.. And I know you don't just whip stuff off the
cuff;)

If jps isn't going to accomplish anything by "blaming" Bush and his
conservative supporters (and he isn't), what is to be accomplished by
"blaming" Clinton? Looks like I touched a nerve- sorry. Didn't mean to
put you into a defensive mode

No defensive mode, just thought it funny to say we got to "stop
blaming", while blaming, that's all. I usually expect more of you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text

When did I "defend" Clinton? I said it was time to stop blaming him
for everything. (Apparently you disagree, and feel that he should
continue to be blamed for everything?) I also said that it would be
more important to solve any particular problems thta may have cropped
up during the two Bush terms than to waste time blaming anybody for
those. How is that offensive? I guess if you feel that the suggestion
that anything Bush has done might be less than absolutely perfect in
every respect is a harsh and unwarranted "blame",......but he'd be the
first human being in a million years to attempt such a complex task
and not screw up a few things in the process.

The only person I was blaming, at all, was jps for stirring up schidt.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 11, 10:52?am, "JimH" ask wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Jul 11, 8:38?am, wrote:
On Jul 11, 4:31 am, Chuck Gould wrote:

We need to come together. It's time to stop blaming everything on
Clinton, for sure, and it's about time to start trying to fix,
together, anything that may have gone sideways under the present
Executive.

And if I answer your three questions, will you let me cross your
bridge? Sandy Berger made sure we will never know how much the
Clintons were involved, had knowledge of, or even told the Bush
administration. Specualate all you want, scream from the top of the
mountain that you beleive the Clintons to the end, then why did they
have to destroy documents, I specualte that they did not tell Bush
everything, but I won't stand on a stump and declare it "truth" beyond
doubt, and call anyone who does not agree, stupid...

????????????????????????????

Thanks for demonstrating my previous point, but beyond that I have no
idea why you would suggest I'm screaming from a mountaintop that I
"believe the Clintons to the end".

If jps isn't going to accomplish anything by "blaming" Bush and his
conservative supporters (and he isn't), what is to be accomplished by
"blaming" Clinton? Looks like I touched a nerve- sorry. Didn't mean to
put you into a defensive mode.

Hey Chuck.......what happened to your "No Politcal Postings" pledge?
;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My posting isn't political in any way. It's a request for jps to
*stop* confrontational political posting and an observation that the
rancor created by political posts is destructive. How the heck is that
political?
Does a statement that we should work together to try to solve common
problems serve only one side of the political spectrum? Darn tragic,
if that's the case.

Nice spin. ;-)

Parse this instead...

On Jul 11, 4:24?pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Jul 11, 10:52?am, "JimH" ask wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

groups.com...

On Jul 11, 8:38?am, wrote:
On Jul 11, 4:31 am, Chuck Gould wrote:

We need to come together. It's time to stop blaming everything on
Clinton, for sure, and it's about time to start trying to fix,
together, anything that may have gone sideways under the present
Executive.

And if I answer your three questions, will you let me cross your
bridge? Sandy Berger made sure we will never know how much the
Clintons were involved, had knowledge of, or even told the Bush
administration. Specualate all you want, scream from the top of the
mountain that you beleive the Clintons to the end, then why did they
have to destroy documents, I specualte that they did not tell Bush
everything, but I won't stand on a stump and declare it "truth" beyond
doubt, and call anyone who does not agree, stupid...

????????????????????????????

Thanks for demonstrating my previous point, but beyond that I have no
idea why you would suggest I'm screaming from a mountaintop that I
"believe the Clintons to the end".

If jps isn't going to accomplish anything by "blaming" Bush and his
conservative supporters (and he isn't), what is to be accomplished by
"blaming" Clinton? Looks like I touched a nerve- sorry. Didn't mean to
put you into a defensive mode.

Hey Chuck.......what happened to your "No Politcal Postings" pledge?
;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My posting isn't political in any way. It's a request for jps to
*stop* confrontational political posting and an observation that the
rancor created by political posts is destructive. How the heck is that
political?
Does a statement that we should work together to try to solve common
problems serve only one side of the political spectrum? Darn tragic,
if that's the case.

Nice spin. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nice short reply :-)

(A factual defense does tend to put a cork in criticism).

Have a wonderful evening.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 11, 4:24?pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Jul 11, 10:52?am, "JimH" ask wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

groups.com...

On Jul 11, 8:38?am, wrote:
On Jul 11, 4:31 am, Chuck Gould wrote:

We need to come together. It's time to stop blaming everything on
Clinton, for sure, and it's about time to start trying to fix,
together, anything that may have gone sideways under the present
Executive.

And if I answer your three questions, will you let me cross your
bridge? Sandy Berger made sure we will never know how much the
Clintons were involved, had knowledge of, or even told the Bush
administration. Specualate all you want, scream from the top of the
mountain that you beleive the Clintons to the end, then why did
they
have to destroy documents, I specualte that they did not tell Bush
everything, but I won't stand on a stump and declare it "truth"
beyond
doubt, and call anyone who does not agree, stupid...

????????????????????????????

Thanks for demonstrating my previous point, but beyond that I have
no
idea why you would suggest I'm screaming from a mountaintop that I
"believe the Clintons to the end".

If jps isn't going to accomplish anything by "blaming" Bush and his
conservative supporters (and he isn't), what is to be accomplished
by
"blaming" Clinton? Looks like I touched a nerve- sorry. Didn't mean
to
put you into a defensive mode.

Hey Chuck.......what happened to your "No Politcal Postings" pledge?
;-)- Hide quoted text -

My posting isn't political in any way. It's a request for jps to
*stop* confrontational political posting and an observation that the
rancor created by political posts is destructive. How the heck is that
political?
Does a statement that we should work together to try to solve common
problems serve only one side of the political spectrum? Darn tragic,
if that's the case.

Nice spin. ;-)

Nice short reply :-)

Thanks. To the point and factual. I can give you some training on doing
so if you wish. ;-)

Have a wonderful evening.

Will do. You also!