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You don't need to sit through hours of courses to learn one rule.

I think it's quite safe to assume that if you don't know that one
rule...

Gee....ya think? Nothing like a blinding flash of the obvious. I
asked
about
the rule, so obviously I did not know it.

You with me so far?

As far as safety, I've was handling a 47 foot boat quite nicely when
I
was
16 years old. Took all the courses, etc etc. My current boat was
boarded
a
couple of years ago, and I was given a ticket for not having a piece
of
equipment NOT required by the CG. I ended up helping some young guy
learn
the rules, with the help of his CO.

Somehow, you've completely failed to convince me of your competence.
If a newcomer to this group were to ask the same basic question you
asked, there would have been 20 responses advising you that you need
to take a safe boating course. My advice that you seriously need to
take a safety course stands, and your "know-it all" responses only
re-inforce that opinion.

Why do I need to convince YOU?

I don't know, but you seem to have made it a high priority. So far,
you might have convinced yourself, but that's about it. And even that
would require a fair amount of intellectual dishonesty on your part.

You didn't respond to my question about water temperature. Could you
please
do so in your next message?- Hide quoted text -

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Then what Joe? What if he said he could not tell you to a degree what
the temp is in his tank, what does that prove? I guess I am a little
slow today!


It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time tomorrow and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:00:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time tomorrow and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.

Bored again huh?

Jeezum pete Doug - get a life. :)

By the way, not to take this off topic off topic, but do you read
novels much at all - scifi/fantasy type stuff?

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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:00:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time tomorrow
and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.

Bored again huh?

Jeezum pete Doug - get a life. :)

What else am I supposed to do when I'm on hold, waiting for one of my
customers to do some binis? :-)



By the way, not to take this off topic off topic, but do you read
novels much at all - scifi/fantasy type stuff?

Lately, mostly political non-fiction. The last fiction binge involved
nothing but Hemingway for almost 6 months. I stopped after one of his books
which described two characters drinking wine with breakfast (in France). It
made me feel hung over.

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:22:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:00:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time tomorrow
and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.

Bored again huh?

Jeezum pete Doug - get a life. :)

What else am I supposed to do when I'm on hold, waiting for one of my
customers to do some binis? :-)

Ah - good point.

By the way, not to take this off topic off topic, but do you read
novels much at all - scifi/fantasy type stuff?

Lately, mostly political non-fiction. The last fiction binge involved
nothing but Hemingway for almost 6 months. I stopped after one of his books
which described two characters drinking wine with breakfast (in France). It
made me feel hung over.

Ok, just wondering. I have a series I just finished - fun, light
reading and I was thinking of sending them to you if you wanted them.

But being the serious type, you probabaly wouldn't appreciate them
anyway. :)

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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:22:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:00:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time tomorrow
and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.

Bored again huh?

Jeezum pete Doug - get a life. :)

What else am I supposed to do when I'm on hold, waiting for one of my
customers to do some binis? :-)

Ah - good point.

By the way, not to take this off topic off topic, but do you read
novels much at all - scifi/fantasy type stuff?

Lately, mostly political non-fiction. The last fiction binge involved
nothing but Hemingway for almost 6 months. I stopped after one of his
books
which described two characters drinking wine with breakfast (in France).
It
made me feel hung over.

Ok, just wondering. I have a series I just finished - fun, light
reading and I was thinking of sending them to you if you wanted them.

But being the serious type, you probabaly wouldn't appreciate them
anyway. :)

Yeah...I'm a very serious person. Next stop: One of Daniel Patrick
Moynihan's books.

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Ok, just wondering. I have a series I just finished - fun, light
reading and I was thinking of sending them to you if you wanted them.

But being the serious type, you probabaly wouldn't appreciate them
anyway. :)


Just type a chapter a night in here.... we all could use a little light
reading before bedtime.

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:28:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:22:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:00:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time tomorrow
and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.

Bored again huh?

Jeezum pete Doug - get a life. :)

What else am I supposed to do when I'm on hold, waiting for one of my
customers to do some binis? :-)

Ah - good point.

By the way, not to take this off topic off topic, but do you read
novels much at all - scifi/fantasy type stuff?

Lately, mostly political non-fiction. The last fiction binge involved
nothing but Hemingway for almost 6 months. I stopped after one of his books
which described two characters drinking wine with breakfast (in France). It
made me feel hung over.

Ok, just wondering. I have a series I just finished - fun, light
reading and I was thinking of sending them to you if you wanted them.

But being the serious type, you probabaly wouldn't appreciate them
anyway. :)

Give...what's the series, and how did the motorcycle course go, and what
did you learn about countersteering?
--
John H

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On Jul 9, 12:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:38:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:23:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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m...

You don't need to sit through hours of courses to learn one rule.

I think it's quite safe to assume that if you don't know that one
rule...

Gee....ya think? Nothing like a blinding flash of the obvious. I
asked
about
the rule, so obviously I did not know it.

You with me so far?

As far as safety, I've was handling a 47 foot boat quite nicely when
I
was
16 years old. Took all the courses, etc etc. My current boat was
boarded
a
couple of years ago, and I was given a ticket for not having a piece
of
equipment NOT required by the CG. I ended up helping some young guy
learn
the rules, with the help of his CO.

Somehow, you've completely failed to convince me of your competence.
If a newcomer to this group were to ask the same basic question you
asked, there would have been 20 responses advising you that you need
to take a safe boating course. My advice that you seriously need to
take a safety course stands, and your "know-it all" responses only
re-inforce that opinion.

Why do I need to convince YOU?

I don't know, but you seem to have made it a high priority. So far,
you might have convinced yourself, but that's about it. And even that
would require a fair amount of intellectual dishonesty on your part.

You didn't respond to my question about water temperature. Could you
please
do so in your next message?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then what Joe? What if he said he could not tell you to a degree what
the temp is in his tank, what does that prove? I guess I am a little
slow today!

It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time tomorrow and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK, now what was your frekin' point!?

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On Jul 9, 12:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:38:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:23:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

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m...

You don't need to sit through hours of courses to learn one
rule.

I think it's quite safe to assume that if you don't know that
one
rule...

Gee....ya think? Nothing like a blinding flash of the obvious. I
asked
about
the rule, so obviously I did not know it.

You with me so far?

As far as safety, I've was handling a 47 foot boat quite nicely
when
I
was
16 years old. Took all the courses, etc etc. My current boat was
boarded
a
couple of years ago, and I was given a ticket for not having a
piece
of
equipment NOT required by the CG. I ended up helping some young
guy
learn
the rules, with the help of his CO.

Somehow, you've completely failed to convince me of your
competence.
If a newcomer to this group were to ask the same basic question
you
asked, there would have been 20 responses advising you that you
need
to take a safe boating course. My advice that you seriously need
to
take a safety course stands, and your "know-it all" responses only
re-inforce that opinion.

Why do I need to convince YOU?

I don't know, but you seem to have made it a high priority. So far,
you might have convinced yourself, but that's about it. And even
that
would require a fair amount of intellectual dishonesty on your part.

You didn't respond to my question about water temperature. Could you
please
do so in your next message?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then what Joe? What if he said he could not tell you to a degree what
the temp is in his tank, what does that prove? I guess I am a little
slow today!

It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time tomorrow
and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK, now what was your frekin' point!?


Perfect analogy:

He can't tell us the water temperature. Therefore, he is not qualified to
operate any plumbing device or appliance which uses hot water.

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On Jul 9, 12:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:38:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:23:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

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m...

You don't need to sit through hours of courses to learn one
rule.

I think it's quite safe to assume that if you don't know that
one
rule...

Gee....ya think? Nothing like a blinding flash of the obvious. I
asked
about
the rule, so obviously I did not know it.

You with me so far?

As far as safety, I've was handling a 47 foot boat quite nicely
when
I
was
16 years old. Took all the courses, etc etc. My current boat was
boarded
a
couple of years ago, and I was given a ticket for not having a
piece
of
equipment NOT required by the CG. I ended up helping some young
guy
learn
the rules, with the help of his CO.

Somehow, you've completely failed to convince me of your
competence.
If a newcomer to this group were to ask the same basic question
you
asked, there would have been 20 responses advising you that you
need
to take a safe boating course. My advice that you seriously need
to
take a safety course stands, and your "know-it all" responses
only
re-inforce that opinion.

Why do I need to convince YOU?

I don't know, but you seem to have made it a high priority. So far,
you might have convinced yourself, but that's about it. And even
that
would require a fair amount of intellectual dishonesty on your
part.

You didn't respond to my question about water temperature. Could you
please
do so in your next message?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then what Joe? What if he said he could not tell you to a degree what
the temp is in his tank, what does that prove? I guess I am a little
slow today!

It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time tomorrow
and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK, now what was your frekin' point!?


Perfect analogy:

He can't tell us the water temperature. Therefore, he is not qualified to
operate any plumbing device or appliance which uses hot water.


Not knowing the water temperature of you hot water tank will not land you in
jail.

Not allowing the CG onto your boat will because you think they need a search
warrant will.

Yes Doug, perfect analogy. shakes head and walks away