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[email protected] July 10th 07 10:05 PM

Just said no! Ct. DEP, OK with me...
 
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:38:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:23:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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You don't need to sit through hours of courses to learn one
rule.


I think it's quite safe to assume that if you don't know that
one
rule...


Gee....ya think? Nothing like a blinding flash of the obvious. I
asked
about
the rule, so obviously I did not know it.


You with me so far?


As far as safety, I've was handling a 47 foot boat quite nicely
when
I
was
16 years old. Took all the courses, etc etc. My current boat was
boarded
a
couple of years ago, and I was given a ticket for not having a
piece
of
equipment NOT required by the CG. I ended up helping some young
guy
learn
the rules, with the help of his CO.


Somehow, you've completely failed to convince me of your
competence.
If a newcomer to this group were to ask the same basic question
you
asked, there would have been 20 responses advising you that you
need
to take a safe boating course. My advice that you seriously need
to
take a safety course stands, and your "know-it all" responses only
re-inforce that opinion.


Why do I need to convince YOU?


I don't know, but you seem to have made it a high priority. So far,
you might have convinced yourself, but that's about it. And even
that
would require a fair amount of intellectual dishonesty on your part.


You didn't respond to my question about water temperature. Could you
please
do so in your next message?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Then what Joe? What if he said he could not tell you to a degree what
the temp is in his tank, what does that prove? I guess I am a little
slow today!


It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time tomorrow
and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.- Hide
quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


OK, now what was your frekin' point!?


Perfect analogy:

He can't tell us the water temperature. Therefore, he is not qualified to
operate any plumbing device or appliance which uses hot water.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Except that he did not have to take a course and was never required to
learn to check his water heater to use hot water. You on the other
hand should know weather or not the governing police force on the
water can board your boat. It was a far fetched, lousy analegy, that's
probably why I did not get it.


JoeSpareBedroom July 10th 07 10:08 PM

Just said no! Ct. DEP, OK with me...
 
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On Jul 9, 2:00 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Jul 9, 12:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:38:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:23:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


wrote in message
m...


You don't need to sit through hours of courses to learn one
rule.


I think it's quite safe to assume that if you don't know that
one
rule...


Gee....ya think? Nothing like a blinding flash of the obvious.
I
asked
about
the rule, so obviously I did not know it.


You with me so far?


As far as safety, I've was handling a 47 foot boat quite nicely
when
I
was
16 years old. Took all the courses, etc etc. My current boat
was
boarded
a
couple of years ago, and I was given a ticket for not having a
piece
of
equipment NOT required by the CG. I ended up helping some young
guy
learn
the rules, with the help of his CO.


Somehow, you've completely failed to convince me of your
competence.
If a newcomer to this group were to ask the same basic question
you
asked, there would have been 20 responses advising you that you
need
to take a safe boating course. My advice that you seriously
need
to
take a safety course stands, and your "know-it all" responses
only
re-inforce that opinion.


Why do I need to convince YOU?


I don't know, but you seem to have made it a high priority. So
far,
you might have convinced yourself, but that's about it. And even
that
would require a fair amount of intellectual dishonesty on your
part.


You didn't respond to my question about water temperature. Could
you
please
do so in your next message?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Then what Joe? What if he said he could not tell you to a degree
what
the temp is in his tank, what does that prove? I guess I am a little
slow today!


It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time
tomorrow
and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.- Hide
quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


OK, now what was your frekin' point!?


Perfect analogy:

He can't tell us the water temperature. Therefore, he is not qualified to
operate any plumbing device or appliance which uses hot water.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Except that he did not have to take a course and was never required to
learn to check his water heater to use hot water. You on the other
hand should know weather or not the governing police force on the
water can board your boat. It was a far fetched, lousy analegy, that's
probably why I did not get it.


Not knowing that rule bears absolutely no relationship to safe boating,
unless:

- You suggest that I may have forgotten lots of other things from the course
I took, which is unlikely since I constantly practice what I learned.
or
- You suggest (correctly) that handcuffs can be painful, and therefore a
safety issue. But, that would be a stretch.



[email protected] July 10th 07 10:11 PM

Just said no! Ct. DEP, OK with me...
 
On Jul 10, 5:50 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:44:38 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing





wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:37:24 -0500, John H.
wrote:


On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:12:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:42:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


Perhaps, but not knowing that the CG needs no warrant in no way means
someone is an usafe boater. You know that. You'll argue the point anyway,
but who cares?


Shouldn't you be out selling dishwater liquid or something? :)


Can you use 1400 cases of Prego pasta sauce? Nice fresh product, delivers
late next week. Twelve 26oz jars per case. $17.00 per case. $23,800.00. You
can swing that.


Prego is the worst stuff made. I'd rather put peanut butter on my pasta.


ROTFL!!!


Speaking of Prego, Michael Moore is on CNN today getting apoplectic (sp?)
because Blitzer found some fault with his movie. Fun to watch!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I just don't understand this Michael Moore stuff. Libs know he lies
even more that Billary, and still suck right up to him as if he had
actually done some research, stated some facts, or had some talent.


JoeSpareBedroom July 10th 07 10:13 PM

Just said no! Ct. DEP, OK with me...
 
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On Jul 10, 5:50 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:44:38 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing





wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:37:24 -0500, John H.
wrote:


On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:12:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:42:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


Perhaps, but not knowing that the CG needs no warrant in no way
means
someone is an usafe boater. You know that. You'll argue the point
anyway,
but who cares?


Shouldn't you be out selling dishwater liquid or something? :)


Can you use 1400 cases of Prego pasta sauce? Nice fresh product,
delivers
late next week. Twelve 26oz jars per case. $17.00 per case.
$23,800.00. You
can swing that.


Prego is the worst stuff made. I'd rather put peanut butter on my
pasta.


ROTFL!!!


Speaking of Prego, Michael Moore is on CNN today getting apoplectic (sp?)
because Blitzer found some fault with his movie. Fun to watch!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I just don't understand this Michael Moore stuff. Libs know he lies
even more that Billary, and still suck right up to him as if he had
actually done some research, stated some facts, or had some talent.


Perhaps. But, when he walks right up to a government official with a video
camera, and that official says something, do you believe the video has
somehow been doctored? Or, do you believe you are really seeing the official
say things you may not like?

You with me on this? Moore asks a question. Official answers the question.
Is Moore lying, or are you seeing what you think you're seeing?



HK July 10th 07 10:16 PM

Just said no! Ct. DEP, OK with me...
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 10, 5:50 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:44:38 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing





wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:37:24 -0500, John H.
wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:12:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:42:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
Perhaps, but not knowing that the CG needs no warrant in no way
means
someone is an usafe boater. You know that. You'll argue the point
anyway,
but who cares?
Shouldn't you be out selling dishwater liquid or something? :)
Can you use 1400 cases of Prego pasta sauce? Nice fresh product,
delivers
late next week. Twelve 26oz jars per case. $17.00 per case.
$23,800.00. You
can swing that.
Prego is the worst stuff made. I'd rather put peanut butter on my
pasta.
ROTFL!!!
Speaking of Prego, Michael Moore is on CNN today getting apoplectic (sp?)
because Blitzer found some fault with his movie. Fun to watch!
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I just don't understand this Michael Moore stuff. Libs know he lies
even more that Billary, and still suck right up to him as if he had
actually done some research, stated some facts, or had some talent.


Perhaps. But, when he walks right up to a government official with a video
camera, and that official says something, do you believe the video has
somehow been doctored? Or, do you believe you are really seeing the official
say things you may not like?

You with me on this? Moore asks a question. Official answers the question.
Is Moore lying, or are you seeing what you think you're seeing?




Absurd. Compared to Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, and the rest of the
criminals in that administration, Moore is a paragon of virtue and
truthfulness.


[email protected] July 10th 07 10:20 PM

Just said no! Ct. DEP, OK with me...
 
On Jul 10, 5:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...





On Jul 10, 3:13 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message


oups.com...


On Jul 9, 2:00 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message


roups.com...


On Jul 9, 12:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
wrote in message


. ..


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:38:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:23:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


wrote in message
m...


You don't need to sit through hours of courses to learn one
rule.


I think it's quite safe to assume that if you don't know that
one
rule...


Gee....ya think? Nothing like a blinding flash of the obvious.
I
asked
about
the rule, so obviously I did not know it.


You with me so far?


As far as safety, I've was handling a 47 foot boat quite nicely
when
I
was
16 years old. Took all the courses, etc etc. My current boat
was
boarded
a
couple of years ago, and I was given a ticket for not having a
piece
of
equipment NOT required by the CG. I ended up helping some young
guy
learn
the rules, with the help of his CO.


Somehow, you've completely failed to convince me of your
competence.
If a newcomer to this group were to ask the same basic question
you
asked, there would have been 20 responses advising you that you
need
to take a safe boating course. My advice that you seriously
need
to
take a safety course stands, and your "know-it all" responses
only
re-inforce that opinion.


Why do I need to convince YOU?


I don't know, but you seem to have made it a high priority. So
far,
you might have convinced yourself, but that's about it. And even
that
would require a fair amount of intellectual dishonesty on your
part.


You didn't respond to my question about water temperature. Could
you
please
do so in your next message?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Then what Joe? What if he said he could not tell you to a degree
what
the temp is in his tank, what does that prove? I guess I am a little
slow today!


It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time
tomorrow
and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.- Hide
quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


OK, now what was your frekin' point!?


Perfect analogy:


He can't tell us the water temperature. Therefore, he is not qualified to
operate any plumbing device or appliance which uses hot water.- Hide
quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Except that he did not have to take a course and was never required to
learn to check his water heater to use hot water. You on the other
hand should know weather or not the governing police force on the
water can board your boat. It was a far fetched, lousy analegy, that's
probably why I did not get it.


Not knowing that rule bears absolutely no relationship to safe boating,
unless:

- You suggest that I may have forgotten lots of other things from the course
I took, which is unlikely since I constantly practice what I learned.


You practice what you learned? What about all the stuff you missed?

or
- You suggest (correctly) that handcuffs can be painful, and therefore a
safety issue. But, that would be a stretch


You put up the stupidist analagies? I think you are trying to hard to
be clever and it's not working;)

Now you are sounding like those crazy spams that hit the goup with no
real message, just a lot of assorted junk. You try sooo hard to be
clever, but it rarely works.


JoeSpareBedroom July 10th 07 10:21 PM

Just said no! Ct. DEP, OK with me...
 
wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 10, 5:08 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...





On Jul 10, 3:13 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message


oups.com...


On Jul 9, 2:00 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message


roups.com...


On Jul 9, 12:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
wrote in message


. ..


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:38:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:23:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


wrote in message
m...


You don't need to sit through hours of courses to learn
one
rule.


I think it's quite safe to assume that if you don't know
that
one
rule...


Gee....ya think? Nothing like a blinding flash of the
obvious.
I
asked
about
the rule, so obviously I did not know it.


You with me so far?


As far as safety, I've was handling a 47 foot boat quite
nicely
when
I
was
16 years old. Took all the courses, etc etc. My current boat
was
boarded
a
couple of years ago, and I was given a ticket for not having
a
piece
of
equipment NOT required by the CG. I ended up helping some
young
guy
learn
the rules, with the help of his CO.


Somehow, you've completely failed to convince me of your
competence.
If a newcomer to this group were to ask the same basic
question
you
asked, there would have been 20 responses advising you that
you
need
to take a safe boating course. My advice that you seriously
need
to
take a safety course stands, and your "know-it all"
responses
only
re-inforce that opinion.


Why do I need to convince YOU?


I don't know, but you seem to have made it a high priority. So
far,
you might have convinced yourself, but that's about it. And
even
that
would require a fair amount of intellectual dishonesty on your
part.


You didn't respond to my question about water temperature. Could
you
please
do so in your next message?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Then what Joe? What if he said he could not tell you to a degree
what
the temp is in his tank, what does that prove? I guess I am a
little
slow today!


It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time
tomorrow
and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.-
Hide
quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


OK, now what was your frekin' point!?


Perfect analogy:


He can't tell us the water temperature. Therefore, he is not qualified
to
operate any plumbing device or appliance which uses hot water.- Hide
quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Except that he did not have to take a course and was never required to
learn to check his water heater to use hot water. You on the other
hand should know weather or not the governing police force on the
water can board your boat. It was a far fetched, lousy analegy, that's
probably why I did not get it.


Not knowing that rule bears absolutely no relationship to safe boating,
unless:

- You suggest that I may have forgotten lots of other things from the
course
I took, which is unlikely since I constantly practice what I learned.


You practice what you learned? What about all the stuff you missed?

or
- You suggest (correctly) that handcuffs can be painful, and therefore a
safety issue. But, that would be a stretch


You put up the stupidist analagies? I think you are trying to hard to
be clever and it's not working;)

Now you are sounding like those crazy spams that hit the goup with no
real message, just a lot of assorted junk. You try sooo hard to be
clever, but it rarely works.



Suggest something you think I've missed. You're pretty insistent that I've
missed something. Give me an example.



JimH July 10th 07 10:22 PM

Just said no! Ct. DEP, OK with me...
 

wrote in message
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On Jul 10, 3:13 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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ps.com...





On Jul 9, 2:00 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message


roups.com...


On Jul 9, 12:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
wrote in message


. ..


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:38:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:23:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


wrote in message
m...


You don't need to sit through hours of courses to learn one
rule.


I think it's quite safe to assume that if you don't know that
one
rule...


Gee....ya think? Nothing like a blinding flash of the obvious.
I
asked
about
the rule, so obviously I did not know it.


You with me so far?


As far as safety, I've was handling a 47 foot boat quite nicely
when
I
was
16 years old. Took all the courses, etc etc. My current boat
was
boarded
a
couple of years ago, and I was given a ticket for not having a
piece
of
equipment NOT required by the CG. I ended up helping some young
guy
learn
the rules, with the help of his CO.


Somehow, you've completely failed to convince me of your
competence.
If a newcomer to this group were to ask the same basic question
you
asked, there would have been 20 responses advising you that you
need
to take a safe boating course. My advice that you seriously
need
to
take a safety course stands, and your "know-it all" responses
only
re-inforce that opinion.


Why do I need to convince YOU?


I don't know, but you seem to have made it a high priority. So
far,
you might have convinced yourself, but that's about it. And even
that
would require a fair amount of intellectual dishonesty on your
part.


You didn't respond to my question about water temperature. Could
you
please
do so in your next message?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Then what Joe? What if he said he could not tell you to a degree
what
the temp is in his tank, what does that prove? I guess I am a little
slow today!


It's rude to second guess people, so let's wait until this time
tomorrow
and
see if he answers the question. Then, I'll explain why I asked.- Hide
quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


OK, now what was your frekin' point!?


Perfect analogy:

He can't tell us the water temperature. Therefore, he is not qualified to
operate any plumbing device or appliance which uses hot water.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Except that he did not have to take a course and was never required to
learn to check his water heater to use hot water. You on the other
hand should know weather or not the governing police force on the
water can board your boat. It was a far fetched, lousy analegy, that's
probably why I did not get it.


Nobody did.........except Doug (are you surprised?).

When you see a Kanter thread growing past 2 replies grab a bowl of popcorn
and enjoy his show......just don't get caught up in it. ;-)



Rogue Wave July 10th 07 10:27 PM

Just said no! Ct. DEP, OK with me...
 
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:08:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

- You suggest (correctly) that handcuffs can be painful, and therefore a
safety issue. But, that would be a stretch.


SNIP THE GD POST!!!

Damn...

John H. July 10th 07 10:37 PM

Just said no! Ct. DEP, OK with me...
 
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:12:35 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:42:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Perhaps, but not knowing that the CG needs no warrant in no way means
someone is an usafe boater. You know that. You'll argue the point anyway,
but who cares?



Shouldn't you be out selling dishwater liquid or something? :)


Can you use 1400 cases of Prego pasta sauce? Nice fresh product, delivers
late next week. Twelve 26oz jars per case. $17.00 per case. $23,800.00. You
can swing that.


Prego is the worst stuff made. I'd rather put peanut butter on my pasta.
--
John H


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