200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM


Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials
in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers
to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to
pay a hefty fine.

Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main
objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the
Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family.

Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put
a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little
Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and
obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done.

The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say
alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few
hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people.

The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket
violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most
popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make
sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens
of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep

Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking
water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in
Warren County are not saying when.

http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...a-a6dad8d3d7a7

On Jul 7, 11:43?pm, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM

Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials
in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers
to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to
pay a hefty fine.

Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main
objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the
Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family.

Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put
a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little
Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and
obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done.

The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say
alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few
hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people.

The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket
violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most
popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make
sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens
of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep

Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking
water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in
Warren County are not saying when.

http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6...

Oh jiggers the cops are comin
Why can't they leave us alone
Keep paddlin while I'm dumpin
No beer in Ohio.

Gotta get done with it
Swallow the evidence down
Should have been done long ago
There's my whole six pack
Soaking into the ground
A case woulda been quite a blow

Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, (etc)

Oh jiggers the cops are comin
Why can't they leave us alone
Keep paddlin while I'm dumpin
No beer in Ohio
No beer in Ohio
(how many more?)
No beer in Ohio
(will I have to pour?)
No beer in Ohio


There are some darn good reasons not to drink while boating. The
skipper really needs to blow zero. Passengers who become intoxicated
are more likely to wind up in the water and will be less able to
assist in their own or some other person's rescue. Studies have shown
that the marine environment tends to increase the effects of alcohol.

Still, that said, busting people for having an open can of beer
anywhere aboard a boat seems extreme. The news bit didn't imply that
all or even any of the boaters were legally intoxicated. A town big
enough to turn out 45 cops (to write a total of 200 beer-related
tickets) has to have a mayor, city council, etc. I guess we can all be
sure that when the politicians all gather for a party on the mayor's
yacht that there will be no open containers or consumption of alcohol
anywhere aboard.

Some boaters have and enforce a no-alcohol policy aboard their boats.
I'm not opposed to a guest having a beer or a glass of wine, within
moderation. As long as the operator waits until the boat is at its
final destination for the day before imbibing, the cops shouldn't be
busting beer. Public intoxication, lewd or rowdy behavior, public
urination, etc, deserve to be ticketed and should be.......but even if
it's borderline unwise a non-operating adult shouldn't be ticketed for
holding a can of beer on a boat.

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 03:38:23 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Still, that said, busting people for having an open can of beer
anywhere aboard a boat seems extreme.

Especially on a canoe which is in no possible way a "motor vehicle".

Depends on how the local law is written of course but I'd like to see
them fight it out in court.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 03:38:23 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Still, that said, busting people for having an open can of beer
anywhere aboard a boat seems extreme.

Especially on a canoe which is in no possible way a "motor vehicle".

Depends on how the local law is written of course but I'd like to see
them fight it out in court.

New law in PA.... http://tinyurl.com/yso4hg

Steve

By this statement, I should be able, as a passenger in a car, to hoist
my open can of brew in a salute to the Fuzz in the next lane. Care to
estimate how long it would take for him to hit the skids, and swoop in
on the 6 O'clock for the kill? I'm not sure you know it, but there IS an
open container law here in Washington. Please explain the legal
difference between a boat and a car in this scenario.
JR

Chuck Gould wrote:

but even if
it's borderline unwise a non-operating adult shouldn't be ticketed for
holding a can of beer on a boat.



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Garrison Hilliard wrote:
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM


Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials
in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers
to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to
pay a hefty fine.

Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main
objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the
Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family.

Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put
a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little
Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and
obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done.

The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say
alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few
hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people.

The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket
violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most
popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make
sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens
of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep

Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking
water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in
Warren County are not saying when.

http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...a-a6dad8d3d7a7


Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.

On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote:
Garrison Hilliard wrote:
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM

Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials
in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers
to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to
pay a hefty fine.

Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main
objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the
Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family.

Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put
a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little
Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and
obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done.

The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say
alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few
hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people.

The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket
violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most
popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make
sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens
of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep

Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking
water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in
Warren County are not saying when.

http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6...

Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the
tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer
in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody
other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that
shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat
operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable
practice and not a crime. IMO.

There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and
being a "drunk".

I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history.
Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a
doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would
probably lynch somebody found with a joint.

No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-)

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote:
Garrison Hilliard wrote:
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM
Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials
in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers
to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to
pay a hefty fine.
Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main
objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the
Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family.
Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put
a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little
Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and
obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done.
The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say
alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few
hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people.
The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket
violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most
popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make
sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens
of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep
Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking
water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in
Warren County are not saying when.
http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6...
Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the
tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer
in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody
other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that
shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat
operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable
practice and not a crime. IMO.

There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and
being a "drunk".

I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history.
Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a
doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would
probably lynch somebody found with a joint.

No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-)



You can't drive a car on the highways legally with an open container of
booze. I doubt you could ride a bike doing so, either. But driving a
boat with open containers of booze visible is ok?

HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote:
Garrison Hilliard wrote:
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami
River
Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM
Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami
River. Officials
in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open
containers
to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and
forced to
pay a hefty fine.
Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the
temperature. The main
objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make
sure the
Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family.
Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were
looking to put
a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on
the Little
Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of
rude and
obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done.
The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials
who say
alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in
over a few
hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people.
The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life
jacket
violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the
most
popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown
is to make
sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a
splash. Dozens
of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep
Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to
drinking
water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but
officials in
Warren County are not saying when.
http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6...

Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the
tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer
in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody
other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that
shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat
operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable
practice and not a crime. IMO.

There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and
being a "drunk".

I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history.
Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a
doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would
probably lynch somebody found with a joint.

No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-)



You can't drive a car on the highways legally with an open container of
booze. I doubt you could ride a bike doing so, either. But driving a
boat with open containers of booze visible is ok?


I have heard you say many times, that you have had a beer on a boat on
hot summer day, and that you allow others to drink on your boat, you
just don't allow them to get drunk. Is that ok with you?

On Jul 8, 11:07 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote:
Garrison Hilliard wrote:
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami
River
Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM
Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami
River. Officials
in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open
containers
to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and
forced to
pay a hefty fine.
Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the
temperature. The main
objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make
sure the
Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family.
Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were
looking to put
a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on
the Little
Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of
rude and
obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done.
The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials
who say
alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in
over a few
hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people.
The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life
jacket
violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the
most
popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown
is to make
sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a
splash. Dozens
of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep
Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to
drinking
water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but
officials in
Warren County are not saying when.
http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6...

Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the
tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer
in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody
other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that
shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat
operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable
practice and not a crime. IMO.

There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and
being a "drunk".

I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history.
Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a
doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would
probably lynch somebody found with a joint.

No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-)

You can't drive a car on the highways legally with an open container of
booze. I doubt you could ride a bike doing so, either. But driving a
boat with open containers of booze visible is ok?

I have heard you say many times, that you have had a beer on a boat on
hot summer day, and that you allow others to drink on your boat, you
just don't allow them to get drunk. Is that ok with you?

People (not an individual person) often get irresponsible and out of
control when alcohol is involved. I've seen it ruin many a perfectly
good, responsible and happy a festive time where many individuals are
enjoying alcohol responsibly.

People SUCK! Remember? We see many instances of this sucky behavior
all the time. Many instances involve alcohol too, unfortunately. Ruins
the good responsible time for the rest of us, yano? :-(

John Kuthe...