200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
 

On Jul 8, 10:06?am, Tim wrote:
On Jul 8, 11:52 am, "Jim" wrote:





"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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| On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote:
| Garrison Hilliard wrote:
| 200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami
River
| Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM
|
| Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River.
Officials
| in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open
containers
| to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and
forced to
| pay a hefty fine.
|
| Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature.
The main
| objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure
the
| Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family.
|
| Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were
looking to put
| a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the
Little
| Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude
and
| obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done.
|
| The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who
say
| alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in
over a few
| hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people.
|
| The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life
jacket
| violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the
most
| popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown
is to make
| sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a
splash. Dozens
| of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep
|
| Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to
drinking
| water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but
officials in
| Warren County are not saying when.
|
|
http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6...
|
| Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted
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| Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the
| tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer
| in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody
| other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that
| shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat
| operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable
| practice and not a crime. IMO.
|
| There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and
| being a "drunk".
|
| I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history.
| Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a
| doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would
| probably lynch somebody found with a joint.
|
| No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-)

What the hell is a doobie? Is it one of those new designer drugs?
Does it give you the feeling that Kansas and Nebraska are closing in on the
left coast.
Good to see you a little closer to the fusilage than ol' HK, at least on
this issue. There may be redemption for you yet.
|

All in all, I don't allow any alcoholic beverages on my boat. Most of
my friends don't drink, and the ones that do don't give me any hassle
about my "rule".

And it should indeed be the skipper's privilege to formulate an
alcohol policy for his or her boat. And it would be for the best if
more boaters had a policy similar to yours......but should it be a
*crime* to allow a guest to enjoy a beer while underway? I think not.




Carylyle Lake does a pretty good sweep a couple times a year too. They
don't get wild about "open seal" though, but when none of the boats
occupants can pass the breath blower, then things get interesting.

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200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
 

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 12:53:32 -0400, animal05
wrote:

Harry, as usual is incorrect, there are states that it is still legal to
do so

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...container_laws

Note that the federal guidelines apply to:

1. Motor vehicles

2. Vehicles on a public highway or the right-of-way (i.e. on the
shoulder) of a public highway

200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The LittleMiami River
 

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:27:08 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...container_laws

Note that the federal guidelines apply to:

1. Motor vehicles

2. Vehicles on a public highway or the right-of-way (i.e. on the
shoulder) of a public highway

Depending on the state, the definition of "public highway" can be considerably broader, including parking
lots, and private driveways. The following is for New York:

http://www.legalsurvival.com/dwilink/nov02.html

However, the federal definition of motor vehicle seems to exclude boats.

"MOTOR VEHICLE - Includes an automobile, automobile truck, automobile wagon, motorcycle, or any
other self-propelled vehicle designed for running on land but not on rails. 18 USC"

From:
http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m048.htm

200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
 

People SUCK! Remember?

Try hanging around with a better class of people. Or are you part of what
they'd consider the "suck" part?

200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
 

Stupid fu**in" pigs only protecting their budget probably, trying to
show folks they are doing their job and not chasing girls and rolling
pimps all night. When you see an operation like this it is probably
because someone is putting pressure on them to slow down a little. So
they come out to a big public event, with lot's of media, and bully a
few people around, make the papers. Bull****, that's all it is. Like
around here, they come out once a year, usually near October (right
before elections) or so and do a big bust where they make a lot of
noise and take a few kids smoking joints off the street, but they
carefully work around anyone who is moving any quantity, would not
want to really shut off the gravy train!

Imagine what that effort could have done to the drug business in the
area, if they really wanted to bust pushers, but they don't do blue on
blue enforcement!

200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
 

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:40:56 -0000, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:27:08 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...container_laws

Note that the federal guidelines apply to:

1. Motor vehicles

2. Vehicles on a public highway or the right-of-way (i.e. on the
shoulder) of a public highway

Depending on the state, the definition of "public highway" can be considerably broader, including parking
lots, and private driveways. The following is for New York:

http://www.legalsurvival.com/dwilink/nov02.html

However, the federal definition of motor vehicle seems to exclude boats.

"MOTOR VEHICLE - Includes an automobile, automobile truck, automobile wagon, motorcycle, or any
other self-propelled vehicle designed for running on land but not on rails. 18 USC"

From:
http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m048.htm

It's difficult to figure out how a canoe on a navigable river fits
into any of that. I'd love to argue that one in court, starting with
jurisdiction and working your way up.

200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
 

On Jul 8, 1:30 pm, "B Fuhrmann" b-fuhrmann-
wrote:

I have been down it several times in the last 15 years and never saw
significant nudity but saw a number of obnoxious drunks. We generally have
a cooler in it's own tube and have a 2-4 beers in the few hours it takes to
drift through the trees. More fun that soaking in a hot tub.
Usually the tubes are tied together into a raft and whomever is towards the
front gives a quick (and sometimes surprised) call of "butts up" to warn
people about a rock near the surface.

--
Bill

Whats wrong with nudity? especially in a river (but not the Amazon)

200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
 

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:11:14 -0400, wrote:

It's difficult to figure out how a canoe on a navigable river fits
into any of that. I'd love to argue that one in court, starting with
jurisdiction and working your way up.

This just sounds like a bunch of rich "got mine'ers" who don't want
their million dollar river view sullied by the riff raff that work for
them.
We don't have to travel far in our neighborhood to see the same thing,
it is just a six buck toll.

Heh, but we've got a new bridge to show for it, and I won't have to
wait for the lift span anymore. And *they* won't have to wait for me.
:-)

200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
 

On Jul 9, 6:49 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:11:14 -0400, wrote:
It's difficult to figure out how a canoe on a navigable river fits
into any of that. I'd love to argue that one in court, starting with
jurisdiction and working your way up.

This just sounds like a bunch of rich "got mine'ers" who don't want
their million dollar river view sullied by the riff raff that work for
them.
We don't have to travel far in our neighborhood to see the same thing,
it is just a six buck toll.

Heh, but we've got a new bridge to show for it, and I won't have to
wait for the lift span anymore. And *they* won't have to wait for me.
:-)

Are you saying you are one of them?? ;)

200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
 

On Jul 9, 4:36 pm, echinacea wrote:
On Jul 8, 1:30 pm, "B Fuhrmann" b-fuhrmann-

wrote:
I have been down it several times in the last 15 years and never saw
significant nudity but saw a number of obnoxious drunks. We generally have
a cooler in it's own tube and have a 2-4 beers in the few hours it takes to
drift through the trees. More fun that soaking in a hot tub.
Usually the tubes are tied together into a raft and whomever is towards the
front gives a quick (and sometimes surprised) call of "butts up" to warn
people about a rock near the surface.

--
Bill

Whats wrong with nudity? especially in a river (but not the Amazon)

AHA! Candiru paranoia!