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![]() "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 05:27:50 GMT, "Clams Canino" wrote: I have no problem with little boats (and pontoons) running at "headway speed" with a load of beer and good old boys with fishing poles aboard. HOWEVER... I'm all for throwing the book at BUI's up on plane. All the Marine Patroll has to do is look for "strange behavior" in order to get the real assholes off the water. Not some bull**** PR stunt, a "sweep" like that is waste or resources and money. (but it looks good in print) Ah - I get it. Slow drunk boaters are better than fast drunk boaters. Unbelievable. I'll take 50 slow drunk boats to one fast one anyday. Unless you're suspending all the laws of physics (like mass and inertia) then yes.. I'd say the above statement is a no brainer. Quite believable. In fact, if they are at anchor and stopped (with the light on) they can be passed out on the boat for all I care - they are harmless and moot. The bigger the boat and the faster it's going - the more potential problem it becomes. Simple math. Small drunk boats trolling (or paddling) around (on closed lakes) are very unlikely to cause any real trouble. IMHO the biggest risk they face is not having the Situational Awareness (SA) to react in time to power up to get out of the way of the *real* problem... the drunks who are driving the boats at normal speeds or faster. Like I said.. back "in the day" Charlie and I spent many a night on Little Sebago in poor condition. What scared *me* was the idiots running too fast and some without the lights on. Even hearing a boat coming caused us to get nervous. -W |
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On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote:
Garrison Hilliard wrote: 200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to pay a hefty fine. Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family. Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done. The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people. The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in Warren County are not saying when. http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6... Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable practice and not a crime. IMO. There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and being a "drunk". I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history. Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would probably lynch somebody found with a joint. No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-) |
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On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote: Garrison Hilliard wrote: 200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to pay a hefty fine. Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family. Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done. The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people. The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in Warren County are not saying when. http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6... Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable practice and not a crime. IMO. There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and being a "drunk". I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history. Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would probably lynch somebody found with a joint. No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-) You can't drive a car on the highways legally with an open container of booze. I doubt you could ride a bike doing so, either. But driving a boat with open containers of booze visible is ok? |
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Chuck Gould wrote: On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote: Garrison Hilliard wrote: 200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to pay a hefty fine. Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family. Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done. The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people. The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in Warren County are not saying when. http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6... Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable practice and not a crime. IMO. There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and being a "drunk". I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history. Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would probably lynch somebody found with a joint. No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-) You can't drive a car on the highways legally with an open container of booze. I doubt you could ride a bike doing so, either. But driving a boat with open containers of booze visible is ok? I have heard you say many times, that you have had a beer on a boat on hot summer day, and that you allow others to drink on your boat, you just don't allow them to get drunk. Is that ok with you? |
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On Jul 8, 11:07 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote: Garrison Hilliard wrote: 200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to pay a hefty fine. Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family. Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done. The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people. The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in Warren County are not saying when. http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6... Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable practice and not a crime. IMO. There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and being a "drunk". I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history. Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would probably lynch somebody found with a joint. No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-) You can't drive a car on the highways legally with an open container of booze. I doubt you could ride a bike doing so, either. But driving a boat with open containers of booze visible is ok? I have heard you say many times, that you have had a beer on a boat on hot summer day, and that you allow others to drink on your boat, you just don't allow them to get drunk. Is that ok with you? People (not an individual person) often get irresponsible and out of control when alcohol is involved. I've seen it ruin many a perfectly good, responsible and happy a festive time where many individuals are enjoying alcohol responsibly. People SUCK! Remember? We see many instances of this sucky behavior all the time. Many instances involve alcohol too, unfortunately. Ruins the good responsible time for the rest of us, yano? :-( John Kuthe... |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote: Garrison Hilliard wrote: 200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to pay a hefty fine. Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family. Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done. The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people. The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in Warren County are not saying when. http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6... Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable practice and not a crime. IMO. There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and being a "drunk". I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history. Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would probably lynch somebody found with a joint. No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-) You can't drive a car on the highways legally with an open container of booze. I doubt you could ride a bike doing so, either. But driving a boat with open containers of booze visible is ok? I have heard you say many times, that you have had a beer on a boat on hot summer day, and that you allow others to drink on your boat, you just don't allow them to get drunk. Is that ok with you? Harry, as usual is incorrect, there are states that it is still legal to do so http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...container_laws |
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On Jul 8, 8:59?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote: On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote: Garrison Hilliard wrote: 200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to pay a hefty fine. Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family. Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done. The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people. The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in Warren County are not saying when. http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6... Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable practice and not a crime. IMO. There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and being a "drunk". I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history. Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would probably lynch somebody found with a joint. No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-) You can't drive a car on the highways legally with an open container of booze. I doubt you could ride a bike doing so, either. But driving a boat with open containers of booze visible is ok?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There are some important differences between cars and boats. In most states it's also illegal to operate your car unless everybody is in a seat belt and normally a shoulder harness. Would you propose a similar restriction for boats? A car is nothing more than vehicle of conveyance, while a boat can be simultaneously a conveyance and a means of accommodation. I don't suggest the skipper should be drinking underway, but busting the skipper seated up on the flybridge because a guest down in the salon is having a cold beer or a glass of Merlot on a summer afternoon is way over the top. Good thing there's no actual crime in Ohio, thereby freeing 45 of the local cops to spend an afternoon preventing the consumption of beer on the Little Miami river. |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jul 8, 8:59?am, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote: Garrison Hilliard wrote: 200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to pay a hefty fine. Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family. Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done. The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people. The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in Warren County are not saying when. http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6... Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable practice and not a crime. IMO. There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and being a "drunk". I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history. Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would probably lynch somebody found with a joint. No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-) You can't drive a car on the highways legally with an open container of booze. I doubt you could ride a bike doing so, either. But driving a boat with open containers of booze visible is ok?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There are some important differences between cars and boats. In most states it's also illegal to operate your car unless everybody is in a seat belt and normally a shoulder harness. Would you propose a similar restriction for boats? A car is nothing more than vehicle of conveyance, while a boat can be simultaneously a conveyance and a means of accommodation. I don't suggest the skipper should be drinking underway, but busting the skipper seated up on the flybridge because a guest down in the salon is having a cold beer or a glass of Merlot on a summer afternoon is way over the top. Good thing there's no actual crime in Ohio, thereby freeing 45 of the local cops to spend an afternoon preventing the consumption of beer on the Little Miami river. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about booze and boats, Chuck. So far this year, I've had two beers, and both were consumed in my den after spending four hours mowing my lawn and field. I have one friend who is an alcoholic. When he comes aboard, I restrict his cooler to two beers. Maybe once or twice a year, I have a beer on board, but only while anchored or in a slip. I don't believe the case you cited involved drinking a glass of wine in the salon. |
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... Chuck Gould wrote: On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote: Garrison Hilliard wrote: 200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to pay a hefty fine. Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family. Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done. The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people. The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in Warren County are not saying when. http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6... Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable practice and not a crime. IMO. There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and being a "drunk". I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history. Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would probably lynch somebody found with a joint. No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-) You can't drive a car on the highways legally with an open container of booze. I doubt you could ride a bike doing so, either. But driving a boat with open containers of booze visible is ok? It is here in Michigan. You can't be under the influence and operate a boat, but there are no laws against having open containers. -- www.mattclara.com |
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![]() "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... | On Jul 8, 5:11?am, HK wrote: | Garrison Hilliard wrote: | 200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River | Last Update: Jul 8, 2007 2:26 AM | | Close to 200 people fall victim to a sweep on the Little Miami River. Officials | in Warren County were targeting alcohol-related offenses, from open containers | to underage drinking. The operation left many people drying out and forced to | pay a hefty fine. | | Many people were feeling the heat, and not because of the temperature. The main | objective of this operation is not to ruin activities but to make sure the | Little Miami River can be a fun place for the whole family. | | Out of sight and undercover, officers from several agencies were looking to put | a stop to a common problem. There's a little too much drinking on the Little | Miami River. Area residents living around the river complained of rude and | obnoxious behavior, enough that something had to be done. | | The Sackriders, a local family, agree with Warren County officials who say | alcohol and the river don't mix. Most were upset to get ticketed, in over a few | hours authorities handed citations close to 200 people. | | The violations ranged from underage drinking to littering and life jacket | violations. Some people on canoes got stopped more than once for the most | popular offense, having an open container. The goal of the crackdown is to make | sure the river is a friendly place for local families to make a splash. Dozens | of empty beer cans were picked up in the seven-hour sweep | | Meanwhile, on the water Chris and Rebecca Sackrider will stick to drinking | water. There will be another similar sweep in the near future, but officials in | Warren County are not saying when. | | http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/s...d=2ccdfc37-1f6... | | Works for me. Drunks on the water are damned dangerous.- Hide quoted text - | | - Show quoted text - | | Subtle distinction: The government sweep didn't target drunks, the | tickets were handed out to people caught with an open bottle of beer | in a boat. If it's 100 degrees, 3-4 guys are out fishing, and somebody | other than the person operating the vessel pops open a beer that | shouldn't be considered a crime. It may be unwise, but if the boat | operator isn't drinking at the helm it's merely a questionable | practice and not a crime. IMO. | | There's a difference between having a beer on a summer afternoon and | being a "drunk". | | I thought Carrie Nation and Temperance Unions were ancient history. | Good thing they didn't catch one of the canoeists or kayakers smokin a | doobie.....if beer warrants a ticket those uptight puritans would | probably lynch somebody found with a joint. | | No wonder the entire world seems to be moving to the west coast! :-) What the hell is a doobie? Is it one of those new designer drugs? Does it give you the feeling that Kansas and Nebraska are closing in on the left coast. Good to see you a little closer to the fusilage than ol' HK, at least on this issue. There may be redemption for you yet. | |
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