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200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The LittleMiami River
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:18:07 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Harry, Why have you decided to change your name from Harry Krause to HK? Did you decried it does make sense to follow the advice of internet security experts and use a handle instead of your name? Reginald, Why do you insist on reposting every single bit of previous drivel instead of snipping to something half way relevant? Reggie is a troll, nothing more. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:00:20 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:48:21 -0400, Wayne.B penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 03:38:23 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: Still, that said, busting people for having an open can of beer anywhere aboard a boat seems extreme. Especially on a canoe which is in no possible way a "motor vehicle". Depends on how the local law is written of course but I'd like to see them fight it out in court. No point in trying to fight the tax collectors.... that is really 98% of the intent of that sort of law. Heh - as much as I would like to debate this with you, I would do so from a position of extreme weakness. I once asked a local legislator just how much time was spent on debating the necessity of any particular piece of public safety legislation vs considering the financial aspect of any particular piece of public safety legislation. He said the revenue portion (that's exactly how he put it - not penalty/fine portion) is about 50% of any legislative debate when it comes to public safety. I'd lose the argument before we even got started. :) |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 05:27:50 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote: I have no problem with little boats (and pontoons) running at "headway speed" with a load of beer and good old boys with fishing poles aboard. HOWEVER... I'm all for throwing the book at BUI's up on plane. All the Marine Patroll has to do is look for "strange behavior" in order to get the real assholes off the water. Not some bull**** PR stunt, a "sweep" like that is waste or resources and money. (but it looks good in print) Ah - I get it. Slow drunk boaters are better than fast drunk boaters. Unbelievable. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:03:59 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: I offer again my example from earlier in this thread. Joe Doaks has a party of guests out for an afternoon cruise. Joe isn't drinking, and in fact he's piloting the boat from the flybridge. Down below in the salon, Mrs. Doaks is serving Margaritas to a couple guests of legal drinking age. Is Joe Doaks a criminal? Should he be hauled into court and made to answer for his behavior? In many states, certain boating offenses cross reference to your vehicular driving license, so should stone sober Joe's car insurance be cancelled or his premiums be doubled because somebody else on his boat (well out of reach of the skipper) had an alcoholic beverage? How do you make the distinction between passengers and Captain? Do the passengers have a sign on their backs that says "Passenger"? Look, I'm not totally convinced that the situation that originated this discussion was reasonable - there is a point where enforcing the law requires descretion and balance - I totally agree. However, if there is a history of abuse in a particular area and the users and bordering neighbors complain about same, then drastic enforcement may be required as a warning. I'm sure the cops would much rather be out doing other things than bsting some poor stiff who had a Bud while paddling down the river. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The LittleMiami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:27:08 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...container_laws Note that the federal guidelines apply to: 1. Motor vehicles 2. Vehicles on a public highway or the right-of-way (i.e. on the shoulder) of a public highway Depending on the state, the definition of "public highway" can be considerably broader, including parking lots, and private driveways. The following is for New York: http://www.legalsurvival.com/dwilink/nov02.html However, the federal definition of motor vehicle seems to exclude boats. "MOTOR VEHICLE - Includes an automobile, automobile truck, automobile wagon, motorcycle, or any other self-propelled vehicle designed for running on land but not on rails. 18 USC" From: http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m048.htm |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:15:43 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: HK wrote: What's interesting is that the flaming asshole known here for the moment as Reggie Smithers *still" directs questions and comments to me. Harry, While all of my question and comments are civil, yours always seem to be the exact opposite, why is that? And with nary a word from those so quick to jump on others for an inappropriate remark! -- John H |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The LittleMiami River
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:03:59 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: I offer again my example from earlier in this thread. Joe Doaks has a party of guests out for an afternoon cruise. Joe isn't drinking, and in fact he's piloting the boat from the flybridge. Down below in the salon, Mrs. Doaks is serving Margaritas to a couple guests of legal drinking age. Is Joe Doaks a criminal? Should he be hauled into court and made to answer for his behavior? In many states, certain boating offenses cross reference to your vehicular driving license, so should stone sober Joe's car insurance be cancelled or his premiums be doubled because somebody else on his boat (well out of reach of the skipper) had an alcoholic beverage? How do you make the distinction between passengers and Captain? Do the passengers have a sign on their backs that says "Passenger"? Look, I'm not totally convinced that the situation that originated this discussion was reasonable - there is a point where enforcing the law requires descretion and balance - I totally agree. However, if there is a history of abuse in a particular area and the users and bordering neighbors complain about same, then drastic enforcement may be required as a warning. I'm sure the cops would much rather be out doing other things than bsting some poor stiff who had a Bud while paddling down the river. SWF, There are many states where it is legal to have an open container in a boat, as long as the driver is below the legal limit. If they come up to the boat while it is underway, it is easy to see who is behind the wheel, if they are at anchor, they just ask who is the driver. I have been stopped for a safety check after having a beer, and have never had them ask me to blow into anything, I guess I either didn't have any smell of alcohol on my breath, or they can tell the difference between one beer and 6. Today, I don't bring any beer on board, but would allow a passenger to bring some as long as they limited their consumption so they will be below the legal limit at the end of the day. I don't want anyone to be driving home drunk. I figure a beer an hour will keep someone below .08. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
People SUCK! Remember?
Try hanging around with a better class of people. Or are you part of what they'd consider the "suck" part? |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 07:44:10 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: Today, I don't bring any beer on board, but would allow a passenger to bring some as long as they limited their consumption so they will be below the legal limit at the end of the day. I don't want anyone to be driving home drunk. I figure a beer an hour will keep someone below .08. Now there's another consideration. When I was running SWS semi-full time, the rule was no alcohol onboard - period. I even turned around and returned to the dock when one client brought some orange juice on board spiked with vodka. (By the way, don't believe it when they tell you vodka doesn't smell - its does). Now when we returned to the dock, that was another story. Break out the case of beer kept on ice in the slip's storage locker and let's sit back and talk over the trip. I always kept an eye on that though because of the very reason you stated - I didn't want anybody driving home intoxicated. It seems to me that there are a number of different ways of looking at this open container law. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
Stupid fu**in" pigs only protecting their budget probably, trying to
show folks they are doing their job and not chasing girls and rolling pimps all night. When you see an operation like this it is probably because someone is putting pressure on them to slow down a little. So they come out to a big public event, with lot's of media, and bully a few people around, make the papers. Bull****, that's all it is. Like around here, they come out once a year, usually near October (right before elections) or so and do a big bust where they make a lot of noise and take a few kids smoking joints off the street, but they carefully work around anyone who is moving any quantity, would not want to really shut off the gravy train! Imagine what that effort could have done to the drug business in the area, if they really wanted to bust pushers, but they don't do blue on blue enforcement! |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:13:13 -0400, HK wrote:
Why do you insist on reposting every single bit of previous drivel instead of snipping to something half way relevant? Reggie is a troll, nothing more. Yes, but flying inthe face of all reason, I'd like to see him become a more "responsible" troll... :-) |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The LittleMiami River
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:13:13 -0400, HK wrote: Why do you insist on reposting every single bit of previous drivel instead of snipping to something half way relevant? Reggie is a troll, nothing more. Yes, but flying inthe face of all reason, I'd like to see him become a more "responsible" troll... :-) You would, eh? Fat chance he will. He's used about 50 different handles to post his "snarks" here. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:40:56 -0000, thunder
wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:27:08 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...container_laws Note that the federal guidelines apply to: 1. Motor vehicles 2. Vehicles on a public highway or the right-of-way (i.e. on the shoulder) of a public highway Depending on the state, the definition of "public highway" can be considerably broader, including parking lots, and private driveways. The following is for New York: http://www.legalsurvival.com/dwilink/nov02.html However, the federal definition of motor vehicle seems to exclude boats. "MOTOR VEHICLE - Includes an automobile, automobile truck, automobile wagon, motorcycle, or any other self-propelled vehicle designed for running on land but not on rails. 18 USC" From: http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m048.htm It's difficult to figure out how a canoe on a navigable river fits into any of that. I'd love to argue that one in court, starting with jurisdiction and working your way up. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:09:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: I'm sure the cops would much rather be out doing other things than bsting some poor stiff who had a Bud while paddling down the river. And that is most likely part of the issue in this case. Cops are ordered out on a holiday to enforce what is no doubt questionable law. Cops resent assignment, and decide to go over the top in an attempt to discourage further similar efforts. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The LittleMiami River
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:13:13 -0400, HK wrote: Why do you insist on reposting every single bit of previous drivel instead of snipping to something half way relevant? Reggie is a troll, nothing more. Yes, but flying inthe face of all reason, I'd like to see him become a more "responsible" troll... :-) Wayne, Considering the fact that 98% of the posts in rec.boats, including all the ones from Harry previous to my response, are not trimmed, what made you realize that trimming posts should be a priority? I understand I don't use profanity in my posts, but I didn't know that was a requirement. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:20:48 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:34:22 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:00:20 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:48:21 -0400, Wayne.B penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 03:38:23 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: Still, that said, busting people for having an open can of beer anywhere aboard a boat seems extreme. Especially on a canoe which is in no possible way a "motor vehicle". Depends on how the local law is written of course but I'd like to see them fight it out in court. No point in trying to fight the tax collectors.... that is really 98% of the intent of that sort of law. Heh - as much as I would like to debate this with you, I would do so from a position of extreme weakness. I once asked a local legislator just how much time was spent on debating the necessity of any particular piece of public safety legislation vs considering the financial aspect of any particular piece of public safety legislation. He said the revenue portion (that's exactly how he put it - not penalty/fine portion) is about 50% of any legislative debate when it comes to public safety. I'd lose the argument before we even got started. :) My position comes from two recent occurrences. (1) My boss was cited in VA for exceeding the speed limit. They were perfectly happy to make the speeding charge go away and become a non-movement violation, if he paid the fine and just went away. IOW, public safety was not of paramount importance.... collecting the fine, was. (2) Several states already have a totally idiotic series of tax laws. VA was the latest: http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/18/1818.asp Just as your's is dealing with SC, mine will soon be dealing with VA..... I knew getting rid of the Mustang was a good idea! |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Jul 9, 4:09?am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:03:59 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: I offer again my example from earlier in this thread. Joe Doaks has a party of guests out for an afternoon cruise. Joe isn't drinking, and in fact he's piloting the boat from the flybridge. Down below in the salon, Mrs. Doaks is serving Margaritas to a couple guests of legal drinking age. Is Joe Doaks a criminal? Should he be hauled into court and made to answer for his behavior? In many states, certain boating offenses cross reference to your vehicular driving license, so should stone sober Joe's car insurance be cancelled or his premiums be doubled because somebody else on his boat (well out of reach of the skipper) had an alcoholic beverage? How do you make the distinction between passengers and Captain? Do the passengers have a sign on their backs that says "Passenger"? I make the same distinction between the passengers, (who absolutely should not drink to excess, would be better advised not to drink at all underway, and whose behavior should *not* result in law enforcement action against the skipper of the boat), and the vessel operator that a law enforecement officer would. Who is at the helm when the vessel is first observed? Highway example: A cop pulls a car to the side of the road in the wee hours of a Sunday morning. Upon approching the vehicle, he or she notes that there are six people inside the vehicle and that five of them are behaving in a boisterous manner. There is absolutely no doubt that nearly everybody in the car is seriously drunk. The driver is asked to step out and demonstrate sobriety. The driver recites the alphabet backwards, balances on one foot, touches his finger to his nose, and blows "zero". To make it interesting, let's say the actual owner of the car is one of the drunks ready to pass out in the back seat. Has there been a crime committed? IMO, no. The designated driver was acting responsibly and doing his or her job. Without the services of the designated driver, there might have been five drunks in five separate cars all swerving down the road after the bars closed. Differences on the water: I don't edorse a designated driver approach to boating. It's definitely safer and more prudent to have everybody aboard sober enough to be of assistance if there is an emergency and/ or able to contribute to their own survival and rescue should somebody fall overboard. The scenario where everybody aboard a boat is stinking drunk except the skipper is an invitation for a disaster. However, there's quite a gap between adult guests enjoying a couple of drinks during the course of a summer afternoon and a "boatload of drunks". And it does get complicated. Some people shouldn't drink at all, as their ability to *stop* seems to disappear with the second or third swallow and their behavior changes radically. Those who allow alcohol to be served aboard a boat need to be aware of the condition of the folks who are accepting such service and have the guts to say "I think you've had enough until we get back to the dock" when that's appropriate. My solution is to target behavior that effects others. Being publicly obnoxious is one such behavior. Operating a vessel or vehicle while impaired is another. Stopping for a picnic lunch in the middle of a hot afternoon and sipping a cold beer in the shade of an overhanging tree won't harm anybody, particularly if the vessel operator has a diet cola instead. Look, I'm not totally convinced that the situation that originated this discussion was reasonable - there is a point where enforcing the law requires descretion and balance - I totally agree. However, if there is a history of abuse in a particular area and the users and bordering neighbors complain about same, then drastic enforcement may be required as a warning. Unfortunately, one neighbor complaining 100 times often gets the same response as 50 neighbors all complaining twice. I'm sure the cops would much rather be out doing other things than bsting some poor stiff who had a Bud while paddling down the river. I'm sure that we're in complete agreement on that issue. Particularly since when several hundred people are stopped a few of them, statistically, are likely to be off-duty cops. :-) |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:58:34 -0400, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:13:13 -0400, HK wrote: Why do you insist on reposting every single bit of previous drivel instead of snipping to something half way relevant? Reggie is a troll, nothing more. Yes, but flying inthe face of all reason, I'd like to see him become a more "responsible" troll... :-) You would, eh? Fat chance he will. He's used about 50 different handles to post his "snarks" here. Of course, Harry has used only one! -- John H |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 05:27:50 GMT, "Clams Canino" wrote: I have no problem with little boats (and pontoons) running at "headway speed" with a load of beer and good old boys with fishing poles aboard. HOWEVER... I'm all for throwing the book at BUI's up on plane. All the Marine Patroll has to do is look for "strange behavior" in order to get the real assholes off the water. Not some bull**** PR stunt, a "sweep" like that is waste or resources and money. (but it looks good in print) Ah - I get it. Slow drunk boaters are better than fast drunk boaters. Unbelievable. I'll take 50 slow drunk boats to one fast one anyday. Unless you're suspending all the laws of physics (like mass and inertia) then yes.. I'd say the above statement is a no brainer. Quite believable. In fact, if they are at anchor and stopped (with the light on) they can be passed out on the boat for all I care - they are harmless and moot. The bigger the boat and the faster it's going - the more potential problem it becomes. Simple math. Small drunk boats trolling (or paddling) around (on closed lakes) are very unlikely to cause any real trouble. IMHO the biggest risk they face is not having the Situational Awareness (SA) to react in time to power up to get out of the way of the *real* problem... the drunks who are driving the boats at normal speeds or faster. Like I said.. back "in the day" Charlie and I spent many a night on Little Sebago in poor condition. What scared *me* was the idiots running too fast and some without the lights on. Even hearing a boat coming caused us to get nervous. -W |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:20:48 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: Just as your's is dealing with SC, mine will soon be dealing with VA..... Excellant!!! Tell him congratulations. State, County or Local? |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Jul 8, 1:30 pm, "B Fuhrmann" b-fuhrmann-
wrote: I have been down it several times in the last 15 years and never saw significant nudity but saw a number of obnoxious drunks. We generally have a cooler in it's own tube and have a 2-4 beers in the few hours it takes to drift through the trees. More fun that soaking in a hot tub. Usually the tubes are tied together into a raft and whomever is towards the front gives a quick (and sometimes surprised) call of "butts up" to warn people about a rock near the surface. -- Bill Whats wrong with nudity? especially in a river (but not the Amazon) |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:15:47 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:46:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:20:48 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: Just as your's is dealing with SC, mine will soon be dealing with VA..... Excellant!!! Tell him congratulations. State, County or Local? Danville.....City..... Well good luck to him. All the best. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:22:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: Considering the fact that 98% of the posts in rec.boats, including all the ones from Harry previous to my response, are not trimmed, what made you realize that trimming posts should be a priority? I understand I don't use profanity in my posts, but I didn't know that was a requirement. =========================== Improvement has to start somewhere. Lead by example. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
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200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Jul 9, 6:49 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:11:14 -0400, wrote: It's difficult to figure out how a canoe on a navigable river fits into any of that. I'd love to argue that one in court, starting with jurisdiction and working your way up. This just sounds like a bunch of rich "got mine'ers" who don't want their million dollar river view sullied by the riff raff that work for them. We don't have to travel far in our neighborhood to see the same thing, it is just a six buck toll. Heh, but we've got a new bridge to show for it, and I won't have to wait for the lift span anymore. And *they* won't have to wait for me. :-) Are you saying you are one of them?? ;) |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
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200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The LittleMiami River
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:46:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:20:48 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: Just as your's is dealing with SC, mine will soon be dealing with VA..... Excellant!!! Tell him congratulations. State, County or Local? Danville.....City..... It's a mighty long road from lynchburg to danville... |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:46:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:20:48 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: Just as your's is dealing with SC, mine will soon be dealing with VA..... Excellant!!! Tell him congratulations. State, County or Local? Danville.....City..... -- Congratulations to you son Gene. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The LittleMiami River
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:22:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Considering the fact that 98% of the posts in rec.boats, including all the ones from Harry previous to my response, are not trimmed, what made you realize that trimming posts should be a priority? I understand I don't use profanity in my posts, but I didn't know that was a requirement. =========================== Improvement has to start somewhere. Lead by example. (chortle) (for the semi-literate: chuckling and snorting at the same time) |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:03:59 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: snippity-snip I've always like the European approach to alcohol. In many societies it's common to serve beer to school kids, and entire families often enjoy a drink together. The difference is that becoming publicly intoxicated is a very serious screw up, and getting caught DWI will typically result in very serious punishment even for "first offenders". In a lot of European countries the tradition of giving wine and beer to kids at meals comes from the poor quality of their water supply. Mark E. Williams |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:51:16 -0400, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:22:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Considering the fact that 98% of the posts in rec.boats, including all the ones from Harry previous to my response, are not trimmed, what made you realize that trimming posts should be a priority? I understand I don't use profanity in my posts, but I didn't know that was a requirement. =========================== Improvement has to start somewhere. Lead by example. (chortle) (for the semi-literate: chuckling and snorting at the same time) No, no, no... That's snorffle. :) |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The LittleMiami River
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:58:34 -0400, HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:13:13 -0400, HK wrote: Why do you insist on reposting every single bit of previous drivel instead of snipping to something half way relevant? Reggie is a troll, nothing more. Yes, but flying inthe face of all reason, I'd like to see him become a more "responsible" troll... :-) You would, eh? Fat chance he will. He's used about 50 different handles to post his "snarks" here. Of course, Harry has used only one! He's "special". |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The LittleMiami River
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:51:16 -0400, HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:22:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Considering the fact that 98% of the posts in rec.boats, including all the ones from Harry previous to my response, are not trimmed, what made you realize that trimming posts should be a priority? I understand I don't use profanity in my posts, but I didn't know that was a requirement. =========================== Improvement has to start somewhere. Lead by example. (chortle) (for the semi-literate: chuckling and snorting at the same time) No, no, no... That's snorffle. :) I checked. Snorffle is not in the OED. Chortle is. In fact, it is a word coined by Lewis Carroll, according to the etymology. I found no entries attributed to Short-Waisted Fisherdude. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:07:26 -0400, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:51:16 -0400, HK wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:22:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Considering the fact that 98% of the posts in rec.boats, including all the ones from Harry previous to my response, are not trimmed, what made you realize that trimming posts should be a priority? I understand I don't use profanity in my posts, but I didn't know that was a requirement. =========================== Improvement has to start somewhere. Lead by example. (chortle) (for the semi-literate: chuckling and snorting at the same time) No, no, no... That's snorffle. :) I checked. Snorffle is not in the OED. Chortle is. In fact, it is a word coined by Lewis Carroll, according to the etymology. I found no entries attributed to Short-Waisted Fisherdude. Piffle - Lewis Carroll learned every thing he knew from me. In fact...well, never mind. Trust me - it's snorffle. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
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200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Jul 9, 4:36 pm, echinacea wrote:
On Jul 8, 1:30 pm, "B Fuhrmann" b-fuhrmann- wrote: I have been down it several times in the last 15 years and never saw significant nudity but saw a number of obnoxious drunks. We generally have a cooler in it's own tube and have a 2-4 beers in the few hours it takes to drift through the trees. More fun that soaking in a hot tub. Usually the tubes are tied together into a raft and whomever is towards the front gives a quick (and sometimes surprised) call of "butts up" to warn people about a rock near the surface. -- Bill Whats wrong with nudity? especially in a river (but not the Amazon) AHA! Candiru paranoia! |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
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200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:15:58 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:56:56 -0000, wrote: Are you saying you are one of them?? ;) Nice place to visit but not sure I'd want to live there. :-) On the other hand, if you gave me a beach house on the Gulf... If you gave me a beach house on the Gulf, I'd sell it immediately if not sooner. :) |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The LittleMiami River
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:22:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Considering the fact that 98% of the posts in rec.boats, including all the ones from Harry previous to my response, are not trimmed, what made you realize that trimming posts should be a priority? I understand I don't use profanity in my posts, but I didn't know that was a requirement. =========================== Improvement has to start somewhere. Lead by example. Wayne, Are you suggesting I call everyone assholes? Not my style. |
200 People Busted For Alcohol-Related Offenses On The Little Miami River
On Jul 10, 12:12 am, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:15:58 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:56:56 -0000, wrote: Are you saying you are one of them?? ;) Nice place to visit but not sure I'd want to live there. :-) On the other hand, if you gave me a beach house on the Gulf... I lived on Sanibel for almost a year (1983) but winter made me run to the peaceful town of Estero. Now I am buried again. Sanibel is a strange place. They like to pretend they are a lightly developed island but the population density is one of the higest in the county. The bushes hide it but the houses are on tiny lots. In my (rental) house there on East Gulf we felt like we had to pull our feet up in bed when a car went past because we were so close to the road. (grey piling house at Shell Basket and Gulf). It was tolerable in the summer but in winter cars went by all night long. This is in the zig zags between the causeway road (old Hilton) and Donax. I lost a mailbox and a pygmy date palm to cars that missed the turn. Another one smacked that big queen palm in the yard and lost the battle. my parents almost bought us a house on Pine Island about 10 years back, really wish I had known, I would have pushed them a little. ;) |
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