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Ping...Shortwave Tom - Corps question
Hi Tom,
I was playing a little with "Nathan Branden" in ASA this evening and a question occured to me and I'm sorry to say I don't know the answer. My understanding is that Marine Corps Officers don't go to boot camp (Mustangs excepted). I know they must do some kind of training but I have no idea what the requirements are. I should be ashamed to admit it but I guess I'm too old to let my crappy memory bother me. Thanks for any help in enlightening the vast empty spaces in my mind. Mark E. Williams PS...I know there are other Marines in the Group but you were the first one that poped into my mind. ) Sometimes it doesn't pay to stand out. LOL |
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"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message ... Hi Tom, I was playing a little with "Nathan Branden" in ASA this evening and a question occured to me and I'm sorry to say I don't know the answer. My understanding is that Marine Corps Officers don't go to boot camp (Mustangs excepted). I know they must do some kind of training but I have no idea what the requirements are. I should be ashamed to admit it but I guess I'm too old to let my crappy memory bother me. Thanks for any help in enlightening the vast empty spaces in my mind. Mark E. Williams PS...I know there are other Marines in the Group but you were the first one that poped into my mind. ) Sometimes it doesn't pay to stand out. LOL I'm not Tom and not an ex-jarhead .... (Navy) ..... but if the Marines are like the Navy, the officers do indeed do a "boot camp" although it is much shorter in duration than the boot camp the enlisted attend. Of course, Navy training was a bit tougher, so maybe the Marines don't have to. (Remember .... the Marines are a branch of the Navy) Eisboch |
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On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 20:37:36 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message .. . Hi Tom, I was playing a little with "Nathan Branden" in ASA this evening and a question occured to me and I'm sorry to say I don't know the answer. My understanding is that Marine Corps Officers don't go to boot camp (Mustangs excepted). I know they must do some kind of training but I have no idea what the requirements are. I should be ashamed to admit it but I guess I'm too old to let my crappy memory bother me. Thanks for any help in enlightening the vast empty spaces in my mind. Mark E. Williams PS...I know there are other Marines in the Group but you were the first one that poped into my mind. ) Sometimes it doesn't pay to stand out. LOL I'm not Tom and not an ex-jarhead .... (Navy) ..... but if the Marines are like the Navy, the officers do indeed do a "boot camp" although it is much shorter in duration than the boot camp the enlisted attend. Of course, Navy training was a bit tougher, so maybe the Marines don't have to. (Remember .... the Marines are a branch of the Navy) Squiids - can't live with 'em, can't get there without 'em. :) And it's former Jarhead thank you very much. :) |
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Ping...Shortwave Tom - Corps question
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:34:32 -0500, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote: Sometimes it doesn't pay to stand out. LOL Heh... It's a little different that it was in my day, but basically you enter through several programs - PLC (Platoon Leaders School), NROTC - Marine concentration, OCS or through USNA. After that, it's to what they now call The Basic School where they have basically 6 months of Basic Training but with concentrations on officer responsibilities. The basic military training is provided by the base courses in college or at USNA, then TBS, then operational speciality if that's an option. Pretty cool actually. http://www.tecom.usmc.mil/TBS/default.htm |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:34:32 -0500, Maynard G. Krebbs wrote: Sometimes it doesn't pay to stand out. LOL Heh... It's a little different that it was in my day, but basically you enter through several programs - PLC (Platoon Leaders School), NROTC - Marine concentration, OCS or through USNA. After that, it's to what they now call The Basic School where they have basically 6 months of Basic Training but with concentrations on officer responsibilities. The basic military training is provided by the base courses in college or at USNA, then TBS, then operational speciality if that's an option. Pretty cool actually. http://www.tecom.usmc.mil/TBS/default.htm The Navy teaches their NROTC guys how to speak Portuguese and find whore houses in Rio. That's an important skill. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:34:32 -0500, Maynard G. Krebbs wrote: Sometimes it doesn't pay to stand out. LOL Heh... It's a little different that it was in my day, but basically you enter through several programs - PLC (Platoon Leaders School), NROTC - Marine concentration, OCS or through USNA. After that, it's to what they now call The Basic School where they have basically 6 months of Basic Training but with concentrations on officer responsibilities. The basic military training is provided by the base courses in college or at USNA, then TBS, then operational speciality if that's an option. Pretty cool actually. http://www.tecom.usmc.mil/TBS/default.htm If you walk in off the street and want to be a Marine Corps Officer you go to OCS, Officer Candidate School, which is officer's boot camp and it lasts about 11 or 12 weeks just about the same length as enlisted boot camp, which is about 12 weeks. OCS stresses leadership enlisted boot camp is all about discipline and following orders. I have two cousins, first cousins, who are now 2nd Lt's in the USMC. One fresh out of the USNA and the other one year out of BC and who went through PLC. Damn kids weren't even born when I got out of the Corps. My kids keep asking me if they should go into the military. I tell them to wait until they graduate from college, officers have a much better life in the military. |
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I have two cousins, first cousins, who are now 2nd Lt's in the USMC. One
fresh out of the USNA and the other one year out of BC and who went through PLC. Damn kids weren't even born when I got out of the Corps. Do you know the difference between a 2nd Lt and a PFC? The PFC has been promoted. HAHHAHAAHAHA Old joke but I had to say it. |
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Ping...Shortwave Tom - Corps question
Bill wrote:
I have two cousins, first cousins, who are now 2nd Lt's in the USMC. One fresh out of the USNA and the other one year out of BC and who went through PLC. Damn kids weren't even born when I got out of the Corps. Do you know the difference between a 2nd Lt and a PFC? The PFC has been promoted. Who salutes who? Reminds me of my cousins graduation from Annapolis this past May. The Blue Angles did a fly by and you could see faces of the pilots. They were no more than 75 yards away. It was awesome. The funniest thing was all of the old Gunner's walking around in their Charlies, flaming asshole on one collar and bar on the other getting a kick out of saluting all of the new boot louie's and Ensigns. Some of these guys were in need of walkers but they were having a great time. |
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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:36:10 -0400, BAR wrote:
Bill wrote: I have two cousins, first cousins, who are now 2nd Lt's in the USMC. One fresh out of the USNA and the other one year out of BC and who went through PLC. Damn kids weren't even born when I got out of the Corps. Do you know the difference between a 2nd Lt and a PFC? The PFC has been promoted. Who salutes who? I always felt some sympathy for officers walking around D&S piers or NOB in Norfolk. I might salute two or three times walking from my ship to the gate, while they had to do it maybe a few hundred times. Sometimes they would hug the walls of buildings, heads averted so they wouldn't get saluted for the 3 hundredth time in the past ten minutes. They probably suffered carpal tunnel syndrome. One time I was walking down the pier away from my can headed for liberty and a buddy started yakking at me from the ship. I ended up walking backwards for a bit carrying on the talk and as I turned around again I bumped into the corner of a limo which had stopped to keep from running over me. I think it the first and only time I had seen a non-noisy, non-truck vehicle on the pier. As I regained my balance he continued slowly ahead, and I gave the driver a dirty look, not paying attention to the flag flying on the antenna. That look was still on my face as the back seat passed. Co incidently, the flag was the 2nd Fleet flag, and it was the Admiral of the 2nd Fleet in the back seat, and he got all insulted by me giving him a dirty look too. I played stupid and kept walking but sure enough he had his driver stop and he came storming down the pier after me, with a shout of Sailor!! I stopped and turned around, then played Marine, coming to sharp attention and saluting. YES SIR!!! The Admiral was all flustered, and actually sputtering under all those scrambled eggs on his hat. "D-D-Didn't you see my car?!!!" NO SIR!!! SORRY SIR!!! MY FAULT SIR!!! He could see I was dressed sharp, looked sharp, and acted sharp. I was still at salute since he hadn't yet returned it. I swear he sputtered out, "B-B-Be a good sailor now!" YES SIR!! Then he saluted me and walked back to his limo and I went on liberty, thinking I don't know what the hell that was all about, but that YES SIR and saluting stuff sure works good on Admirals. One time I was sitting on bollard near the quarterdeck with my legs stretched out. A Captain - Cunningham I think - was piped aboard and somehow managed to trip over my feet. He dawdled on the quarterdeck and I thought he was gone so had relaxed. I did the same SORRY SIR!!! routine on him and he was ok with it, but my Captain chased the quartermaster after me later with a reprimand. Can't say I blame him. His crew shouldn't be tripping visiting Captains. I was in the day after I turned 17, and it took me a couple years to learn how to avoid trouble. --Vic |
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Ping...Shortwave Tom - Corps question
Do you know the difference between a 2nd Lt and a PFC? The PFC has
been promoted. Who salutes who? They salute each other and the officer has to do it a lot more times every day. |
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