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Chuck Gould June 16th 07 04:41 AM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
Got a chance to try out the new 59-foot Grand Banks Aleutian. They did
a nice job with this one- they didn't just build a good boat they
created a great experience.

Spent some time today on the new flybridge version of the 41-foot
American Tug. Adding the flybridge totally changed the look of this
boat, but at least they didn't try to hide it behind the false stack
like so many similar boats have done when adding a flybridge option to
the original pilothouse line.

I'm headed to Alaska tomorrow and will be gone about a week, and I'll
be writing up descriptions of these boats while I'm gone. When back I
*won't* post the descriptions here, (too much flak from the usual
suspects, and ex-pects), but I'll post the location of another NG
where they will be available.

By the way, I'll be travelling either on this little boat or a
sistership:

http://www.cruiseweb.com/NCL-PEARL.HTM

Somebody suggested I ask the cruise co to hoist "Indulgence" up to the
top deck and let her float in the swimming pool.....I could then say
she made it to Juneau and back in six days on her own bottom. That
would be some sort of record for an 8.5 -9-kt boat. :-)


Mike June 16th 07 05:37 AM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
Screw usual suspects, and ex-pects. Just post it here please... it *is*
boating related, and I'm sure many of us would be interested. Have a great
trip.

--Mike

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
Got a chance to try out the new 59-foot Grand Banks Aleutian. They did
a nice job with this one- they didn't just build a good boat they
created a great experience.

Spent some time today on the new flybridge version of the 41-foot
American Tug. Adding the flybridge totally changed the look of this
boat, but at least they didn't try to hide it behind the false stack
like so many similar boats have done when adding a flybridge option to
the original pilothouse line.

I'm headed to Alaska tomorrow and will be gone about a week, and I'll
be writing up descriptions of these boats while I'm gone. When back I
*won't* post the descriptions here, (too much flak from the usual
suspects, and ex-pects), but I'll post the location of another NG
where they will be available.

By the way, I'll be travelling either on this little boat or a
sistership:

http://www.cruiseweb.com/NCL-PEARL.HTM

Somebody suggested I ask the cruise co to hoist "Indulgence" up to the
top deck and let her float in the swimming pool.....I could then say
she made it to Juneau and back in six days on her own bottom. That
would be some sort of record for an 8.5 -9-kt boat. :-)




HK June 16th 07 11:04 AM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
Chuck Gould wrote:

I'm headed to Alaska tomorrow and will be gone about a week, and I'll
be writing up descriptions of these boats while I'm gone. When back I
*won't* post the descriptions here, (too much flak from the usual
suspects, and ex-pects), but I'll post the location of another NG
where they will be available.



http://www.world-of-smilies.com/html...chment-190.gif

Short Wave Sportfishing June 16th 07 11:40 AM

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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:41:51 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

By the way, I'll be travelling either on this little boat or a
sistership:


Isn't that the cruise line that always runs aground?

Or is riddled with Norwalk Virus?

Or something? :)

Have fun - enjoy.

John H. June 16th 07 01:17 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:41:51 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Got a chance to try out the new 59-foot Grand Banks Aleutian. They did
a nice job with this one- they didn't just build a good boat they
created a great experience.

Spent some time today on the new flybridge version of the 41-foot
American Tug. Adding the flybridge totally changed the look of this
boat, but at least they didn't try to hide it behind the false stack
like so many similar boats have done when adding a flybridge option to
the original pilothouse line.

I'm headed to Alaska tomorrow and will be gone about a week, and I'll
be writing up descriptions of these boats while I'm gone. When back I
*won't* post the descriptions here, (too much flak from the usual
suspects, and ex-pects), but I'll post the location of another NG
where they will be available.

By the way, I'll be travelling either on this little boat or a
sistership:

http://www.cruiseweb.com/NCL-PEARL.HTM

Somebody suggested I ask the cruise co to hoist "Indulgence" up to the
top deck and let her float in the swimming pool.....I could then say
she made it to Juneau and back in six days on her own bottom. That
would be some sort of record for an 8.5 -9-kt boat. :-)


Have a great trip, eat lot's of salmon and herring, and post *both*
articles here upon your return.

Fugabuncha usual suspects!

JimH June 16th 07 01:25 PM

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...


By the way, I'll be travelling either on this little boat or a
sistership:

http://www.cruiseweb.com/NCL-PEARL.HTM



Have a great time Chuck. Cruises are always fun.



Calif Bill June 17th 07 12:04 AM

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"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...


By the way, I'll be travelling either on this little boat or a
sistership:

http://www.cruiseweb.com/NCL-PEARL.HTM



Have a great time Chuck. Cruises are always fun.


Cruises are always fun. That is a matter of opinion. Cruises suck!



John H. June 17th 07 02:14 AM

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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:04:57 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...


By the way, I'll be travelling either on this little boat or a
sistership:

http://www.cruiseweb.com/NCL-PEARL.HTM



Have a great time Chuck. Cruises are always fun.


Cruises are always fun. That is a matter of opinion. Cruises suck!


You've obviously not been on a Disney Cruise!



Calif Bill June 17th 07 06:40 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:04:57 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
.. .

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...


By the way, I'll be travelling either on this little boat or a
sistership:

http://www.cruiseweb.com/NCL-PEARL.HTM



Have a great time Chuck. Cruises are always fun.


Cruises are always fun. That is a matter of opinion. Cruises suck!


You've obviously not been on a Disney Cruise!



Disney Cruise sounds wven worse with all the kids aboard. Wife and I like
to stay in a town longer than 6 hour stop of a cruise. We stopped in Grand
Cayman on a 16 day Panama Canal cruise. Had a hard time to get her off the
beach and on to the last tender.



John H. June 18th 07 01:41 PM

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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:40:33 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:04:57 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
. ..

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...


By the way, I'll be travelling either on this little boat or a
sistership:

http://www.cruiseweb.com/NCL-PEARL.HTM



Have a great time Chuck. Cruises are always fun.


Cruises are always fun. That is a matter of opinion. Cruises suck!


You've obviously not been on a Disney Cruise!



Disney Cruise sounds wven worse with all the kids aboard. Wife and I like
to stay in a town longer than 6 hour stop of a cruise. We stopped in Grand
Cayman on a 16 day Panama Canal cruise. Had a hard time to get her off the
beach and on to the last tender.


Disney folks do well at keeping the kids entertained, and there are 'adult
only' swimming pools, snack bars, etc. on the ship. The kids don't get in
the way much.

Calif Bill June 19th 07 12:43 AM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:40:33 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:04:57 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
.. .

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...


By the way, I'll be travelling either on this little boat or a
sistership:

http://www.cruiseweb.com/NCL-PEARL.HTM



Have a great time Chuck. Cruises are always fun.


Cruises are always fun. That is a matter of opinion. Cruises suck!


You've obviously not been on a Disney Cruise!



Disney Cruise sounds wven worse with all the kids aboard. Wife and I like
to stay in a town longer than 6 hour stop of a cruise. We stopped in
Grand
Cayman on a 16 day Panama Canal cruise. Had a hard time to get her off
the
beach and on to the last tender.


Disney folks do well at keeping the kids entertained, and there are 'adult
only' swimming pools, snack bars, etc. on the ship. The kids don't get in
the way much.


We just get bored of the ship side stuff. We have no problem going to an
area and spending a month. If we like the town, stay longer, of not, leave
early. Have friends that love to cruise. One couple has done like 28
cruises. Gives me nightmares, hte thought of that.



HK June 19th 07 12:52 AM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:40:33 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:04:57 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:

"JimH" wrote in message
...
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

By the way, I'll be travelling either on this little boat or a
sistership:

http://www.cruiseweb.com/NCL-PEARL.HTM


Have a great time Chuck. Cruises are always fun.

Cruises are always fun. That is a matter of opinion. Cruises suck!

You've obviously not been on a Disney Cruise!


Disney Cruise sounds wven worse with all the kids aboard. Wife and I like
to stay in a town longer than 6 hour stop of a cruise. We stopped in
Grand
Cayman on a 16 day Panama Canal cruise. Had a hard time to get her off
the
beach and on to the last tender.

Disney folks do well at keeping the kids entertained, and there are 'adult
only' swimming pools, snack bars, etc. on the ship. The kids don't get in
the way much.


We just get bored of the ship side stuff. We have no problem going to an
area and spending a month. If we like the town, stay longer, of not, leave
early. Have friends that love to cruise. One couple has done like 28
cruises. Gives me nightmares, hte thought of that.




I agree. Perhaps taking a transAtlantic cruise on the QE2 might be
interesting. Or cruising the Greek Isles, which we were fortunate enough
to do. But to take a cruise for the sake of being on a cruise ship?
B-o-r-i-n-g. And taking a cruise on a ship full of someone else's little
rug rats? No thanks.

Short Wave Sportfishing June 19th 07 12:54 AM

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:52:55 -0400, HK wrote:

And taking a cruise on a ship full of someone else's little
rug rats?


Anti-rug rat?

David Scheidt June 19th 07 01:16 AM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
HK wrote:


:I agree. Perhaps taking a transAtlantic cruise on the QE2 might be
:interesting. Or cruising the Greek Isles, which we were fortunate enough

The QE2 has been sold, and is headed to Dubai to become a floating
hotel.

HK June 19th 07 01:42 AM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
David Scheidt wrote:
HK wrote:


:I agree. Perhaps taking a transAtlantic cruise on the QE2 might be
:interesting. Or cruising the Greek Isles, which we were fortunate enough

The QE2 has been sold, and is headed to Dubai to become a floating
hotel.



I saw that. Further evidence the world is on its way to hell.

Don White June 19th 07 02:02 AM

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"John H." wrote in message
...

Nope, couldn't do that many! I'm seriously thinking of a cruise to Alaska,
similar to the one Chuck is taking. Hope he tells us about it when he
returns.



I'm sure if you ask nicely.....................



HK June 19th 07 02:09 AM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Nope, couldn't do that many! I'm seriously thinking of a cruise to Alaska,
similar to the one Chuck is taking. Hope he tells us about it when he
returns.



I'm sure if you ask nicely.....................




I'm sure Chuck will provide an autographed copy of the advertorial he
rewrites from the cruise company's press release for his unbiased
journal of boating and commercials. :}

John H. June 19th 07 02:28 AM

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:43:27 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:40:33 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:04:57 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
. ..

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...


By the way, I'll be travelling either on this little boat or a
sistership:

http://www.cruiseweb.com/NCL-PEARL.HTM



Have a great time Chuck. Cruises are always fun.


Cruises are always fun. That is a matter of opinion. Cruises suck!


You've obviously not been on a Disney Cruise!



Disney Cruise sounds wven worse with all the kids aboard. Wife and I like
to stay in a town longer than 6 hour stop of a cruise. We stopped in
Grand
Cayman on a 16 day Panama Canal cruise. Had a hard time to get her off
the
beach and on to the last tender.


Disney folks do well at keeping the kids entertained, and there are 'adult
only' swimming pools, snack bars, etc. on the ship. The kids don't get in
the way much.


We just get bored of the ship side stuff. We have no problem going to an
area and spending a month. If we like the town, stay longer, of not, leave
early. Have friends that love to cruise. One couple has done like 28
cruises. Gives me nightmares, hte thought of that.


Nope, couldn't do that many! I'm seriously thinking of a cruise to Alaska,
similar to the one Chuck is taking. Hope he tells us about it when he
returns.

John H. June 19th 07 01:03 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:52:55 -0400, HK wrote:



I agree. Perhaps taking a transAtlantic cruise on the QE2 might be
interesting. Or cruising the Greek Isles, which we were fortunate enough
to do. But to take a cruise for the sake of being on a cruise ship?
B-o-r-i-n-g. And taking a cruise on a ship full of someone else's little
rug rats? No thanks.


Of course, the purpose of your cruise wouldn't be to spend time with the
kids and grandkids!

Take your kids and grandkids on a cruise. Maybe the nine year-old will get
a charge out of the Greek isles!

John H. June 19th 07 01:05 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:09:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Nope, couldn't do that many! I'm seriously thinking of a cruise to Alaska,
similar to the one Chuck is taking. Hope he tells us about it when he
returns.



I'm sure if you ask nicely.....................




I'm sure Chuck will provide an autographed copy of the advertorial he
rewrites from the cruise company's press release for his unbiased
journal of boating and commercials. :}


Good!

Reginald P. Smithers III June 19th 07 01:06 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:52:55 -0400, HK wrote:


I agree. Perhaps taking a transAtlantic cruise on the QE2 might be
interesting. Or cruising the Greek Isles, which we were fortunate enough
to do. But to take a cruise for the sake of being on a cruise ship?
B-o-r-i-n-g. And taking a cruise on a ship full of someone else's little
rug rats? No thanks.


Of course, the purpose of your cruise wouldn't be to spend time with the
kids and grandkids!

Take your kids and grandkids on a cruise. Maybe the nine year-old will get
a charge out of the Greek isles!


I have been reading this thread, and was surprised that Harry would
think anyone without children would take a Disney Cruise. It is
designed to provide parents and grandparents an opportunity to enjoy a
cruise with their kids and grandkids, where their is something for
adults and children to do things together and apart. I would enjoy an
"adult cruise" to any number of beautiful destinations, but nothing
brings me as much joy as watching one of "my rug rats" really enjoy
themselves. Some people are too narcissistic to enjoy that.


John H. June 19th 07 02:39 PM

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:06:16 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:52:55 -0400, HK wrote:


I agree. Perhaps taking a transAtlantic cruise on the QE2 might be
interesting. Or cruising the Greek Isles, which we were fortunate enough
to do. But to take a cruise for the sake of being on a cruise ship?
B-o-r-i-n-g. And taking a cruise on a ship full of someone else's little
rug rats? No thanks.


Of course, the purpose of your cruise wouldn't be to spend time with the
kids and grandkids!

Take your kids and grandkids on a cruise. Maybe the nine year-old will get
a charge out of the Greek isles!


I have been reading this thread, and was surprised that Harry would
think anyone without children would take a Disney Cruise. It is
designed to provide parents and grandparents an opportunity to enjoy a
cruise with their kids and grandkids, where their is something for
adults and children to do things together and apart. I would enjoy an
"adult cruise" to any number of beautiful destinations, but nothing
brings me as much joy as watching one of "my rug rats" really enjoy
themselves. Some people are too narcissistic to enjoy that.


I believe Harry told us a while back that his relationship with his kids
was null. He may not understand the idea of taking kids and grandkids on a
cruise. It's a shame.

RG June 19th 07 04:04 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 

I saw that. Further evidence the world is on its way to hell.


Presumably, you'll be there to greet us when we arrive.



RG June 19th 07 04:06 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 

Nope, couldn't do that many! I'm seriously thinking of a cruise to Alaska,
similar to the one Chuck is taking. Hope he tells us about it when he
returns.


I've done it twice, and highly recommend it. Scenery larger than life.
Outstanding photo opportunities.



RG June 19th 07 06:44 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:06:59 GMT, "RG" wrote:


Nope, couldn't do that many! I'm seriously thinking of a cruise to
Alaska,
similar to the one Chuck is taking. Hope he tells us about it when he
returns.


I've done it twice, and highly recommend it. Scenery larger than life.
Outstanding photo opportunities.


Which company? I think Chuck is on Norwegian.


I cruised on the Norwegian Star, summer of 2005. No complaints, would do it
again and no doubt will.



John H. June 19th 07 07:37 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:06:59 GMT, "RG" wrote:


Nope, couldn't do that many! I'm seriously thinking of a cruise to Alaska,
similar to the one Chuck is taking. Hope he tells us about it when he
returns.


I've done it twice, and highly recommend it. Scenery larger than life.
Outstanding photo opportunities.


Which company? I think Chuck is on Norwegian.

Tim June 19th 07 08:06 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
I've never been on a cruise.

INot saying I wouldn't like it, but I really cant forcast being on a
big boat for a week or so, as being a bunch of fun, even though theres
gobs to do while on it.

Oh, I'd probably like it, once I got on it, for the moment I'll enjoy
my cuddie.


Calif Bill June 19th 07 08:08 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 

"RG" wrote in message
. ..

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:06:59 GMT, "RG" wrote:


Nope, couldn't do that many! I'm seriously thinking of a cruise to
Alaska,
similar to the one Chuck is taking. Hope he tells us about it when he
returns.

I've done it twice, and highly recommend it. Scenery larger than life.
Outstanding photo opportunities.


Which company? I think Chuck is on Norwegian.


I cruised on the Norwegian Star, summer of 2005. No complaints, would do
it again and no doubt will.


My wifes aunt and uncle have taken a couple of small boat cruises to AK and
loved them.
http://www.cruisewest.com/destinatio...FRAkggod0Cxj7w



John H. June 19th 07 08:36 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:06:59 GMT, "RG" wrote:


Nope, couldn't do that many! I'm seriously thinking of a cruise to Alaska,
similar to the one Chuck is taking. Hope he tells us about it when he
returns.


I've done it twice, and highly recommend it. Scenery larger than life.
Outstanding photo opportunities.


Speaking of photography...I finally gave Penn camera the money for that new
18 - 200 VR lens. Hopefully I'll have it before October and can take it to
Key West, Grand Cayman, and Cozumel on the cruise.

RG June 19th 07 08:36 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:06:59 GMT, "RG" wrote:


Nope, couldn't do that many! I'm seriously thinking of a cruise to
Alaska,
similar to the one Chuck is taking. Hope he tells us about it when he
returns.


I've done it twice, and highly recommend it. Scenery larger than life.
Outstanding photo opportunities.


Speaking of photography...I finally gave Penn camera the money for that
new
18 - 200 VR lens. Hopefully I'll have it before October and can take it to
Key West, Grand Cayman, and Cozumel on the cruise.


You'll love it. I took it on an 8-day road trip I took in March. It never
left the body of the D200. I shot about 2500 photos on that trip with it.
I've heard that availability of that lens has loosened up somewhat. Keep
your eyes open. The Nikkor lens forum at Nikonians.com usually will post
when it becomes available at places like B&H. I'm currently researching
Nikon's new Coolpix P5000. It's a 10mp advanced compact point and shoot
that I think would be nice to have around when I don't want to schlep the
D200.



John H. June 19th 07 08:38 PM

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:44:16 GMT, "RG" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:06:59 GMT, "RG" wrote:


Nope, couldn't do that many! I'm seriously thinking of a cruise to
Alaska,
similar to the one Chuck is taking. Hope he tells us about it when he
returns.

I've done it twice, and highly recommend it. Scenery larger than life.
Outstanding photo opportunities.


Which company? I think Chuck is on Norwegian.


I cruised on the Norwegian Star, summer of 2005. No complaints, would do it
again and no doubt will.


Thanks.

HK June 19th 07 09:24 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
Tim wrote:
I've never been on a cruise.

INot saying I wouldn't like it, but I really cant forcast being on a
big boat for a week or so, as being a bunch of fun, even though theres
gobs to do while on it.

Oh, I'd probably like it, once I got on it, for the moment I'll enjoy
my cuddie.



Well, it is a matter of taste, I suppose. Going on a cruise for the sake
of going on a cruise is not something I would do.

RG June 19th 07 10:54 PM

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Test it out for me. I need to get my wife a small one. She wants something
she can put in a purse. My daughter's bugging me for a small one also.


The current buzz from early reviews is excellent ergonomics and superior
images, but it's getting knocked by a focusing system that's a bit slow.
Great for landscapes and stationary subjects, not so great for action and
fast-moving subjects. Highlights are Program, Shutter Priority, Aperture
Priority, full Manual, and Multiple Scene shooting modes, fully compatible
with Nikon's Creative Lighting System, 10 mp resolution, 2.5" hi-res LCD
screen, and built-in VR. Also has an optical viewfinder, which I find
essential and is getting near impossible to find on point & shoots anymore.
And it fits easily in a jacket pocket. Street price in the low-mid $300's.
Here's a link to the brochu

http://www.nikonusa.com/fileuploads/...0_brochure.pdf





RCE June 19th 07 11:25 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 

"RG" wrote in message
. ..

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:06:59 GMT, "RG" wrote:

Which company? I think Chuck is on Norwegian.


I cruised on the Norwegian Star, summer of 2005. No complaints, would do
it again and no doubt will.


I've often thought about taking a cruise. We've never done that ... well, I
did on a couple of Navy destroyers. Accommodations weren't all that great,
but we never went hungry.

My concern is the stories of unsanitary conditions and the spread of various
virus type illnesses. The occasional failure of ship's systems or fire
doesn't bother me much but the seeming regular stories of ships returning to
port with a few hundred ill passengers bothers me.

Am I overly concerned?

Eisboch




John H. June 19th 07 11:34 PM

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:36:44 GMT, "RG" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:06:59 GMT, "RG" wrote:


Nope, couldn't do that many! I'm seriously thinking of a cruise to
Alaska,
similar to the one Chuck is taking. Hope he tells us about it when he
returns.

I've done it twice, and highly recommend it. Scenery larger than life.
Outstanding photo opportunities.


Speaking of photography...I finally gave Penn camera the money for that
new
18 - 200 VR lens. Hopefully I'll have it before October and can take it to
Key West, Grand Cayman, and Cozumel on the cruise.


You'll love it. I took it on an 8-day road trip I took in March. It never
left the body of the D200. I shot about 2500 photos on that trip with it.
I've heard that availability of that lens has loosened up somewhat. Keep
your eyes open. The Nikkor lens forum at Nikonians.com usually will post
when it becomes available at places like B&H. I'm currently researching
Nikon's new Coolpix P5000. It's a 10mp advanced compact point and shoot
that I think would be nice to have around when I don't want to schlep the
D200.


Test it out for me. I need to get my wife a small one. She wants something
she can put in a purse. My daughter's bugging me for a small one also.

John H. June 19th 07 11:38 PM

Two interesting boat tests this week......
 
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:06:36 -0700, Tim wrote:

I've never been on a cruise.

INot saying I wouldn't like it, but I really cant forcast being on a
big boat for a week or so, as being a bunch of fun, even though theres
gobs to do while on it.

Oh, I'd probably like it, once I got on it, for the moment I'll enjoy
my cuddie.


I've only been on one, but most of the actual cruising was done at night.
The trip we're taking in October ( http://tinyurl.com/2dmh4g ) is a seven
day cruise, but only two of the days are spent cruising. There are loads of
things to do on the ship, but I really enjoy just reading in the pool.

John H. June 19th 07 11:39 PM

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:24:23 -0400, HK wrote:

Tim wrote:
I've never been on a cruise.

INot saying I wouldn't like it, but I really cant forcast being on a
big boat for a week or so, as being a bunch of fun, even though theres
gobs to do while on it.

Oh, I'd probably like it, once I got on it, for the moment I'll enjoy
my cuddie.



Well, it is a matter of taste, I suppose. Going on a cruise for the sake
of going on a cruise is not something I would do.


If I had to go by myself, I'd probably not go either.

RG June 20th 07 12:00 AM

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My concern is the stories of unsanitary conditions and the spread of
various virus type illnesses. The occasional failure of ship's systems or
fire doesn't bother me much but the seeming regular stories of ships
returning to port with a few hundred ill passengers bothers me.

Am I overly concerned?


I don't think it's possible to be overly concerned when it comes to the
possibility of puking for a week straight. The Norwalk virus is clearly a
problem for the cruise industry. I don't have an explanation for it, but it
seems as though all the Norwalk stories you read pertain to Caribbean
cruises that sail from southern Florida. I've never read about a Norwalk
incident that was on an Alaskan cruise that sailed from Seattle or
Vancouver, or a New England cruise for that matter.. That may not be 100%
factual, but it's my observation.

At any rate, the key is to religiously wash you hands with disinfectant.
Cruise ships now have waterless disinfectant hand washing stations all over
the ship. In fact everyone is required to use one at boarding. But
obviously, when there's a serious outbreak, it's difficult to contain. And
as I understand it, the source of the virus isn't from unsanitary practices
of the ship and crew per se, but rather the virus is always brought aboard
by fellow passengers. Not that it really matter where you got it from once
you've got it. It's a risk in all forms of public travel I guess. Sort of
like sitting on a plane next to a guy with a deadly form of TB. Yowsers.



Short Wave Sportfishing June 20th 07 12:27 AM

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:25:12 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

Am I overly concerned?


No.

John H. June 20th 07 02:06 AM

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:25:12 -0400, "RCE" wrote:


"RG" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:06:59 GMT, "RG" wrote:

Which company? I think Chuck is on Norwegian.


I cruised on the Norwegian Star, summer of 2005. No complaints, would do
it again and no doubt will.


I've often thought about taking a cruise. We've never done that ... well, I
did on a couple of Navy destroyers. Accommodations weren't all that great,
but we never went hungry.

My concern is the stories of unsanitary conditions and the spread of various
virus type illnesses. The occasional failure of ship's systems or fire
doesn't bother me much but the seeming regular stories of ships returning to
port with a few hundred ill passengers bothers me.

Am I overly concerned?

Eisboch



I don't know the stats, but I'm fairly sure it's a small percentage of the
ships that have the health problems. It's not something I worry about, and
that's on a Disney ship full of kids. There are anti-bacterial wipes almost
everywhere one goes on the ship.


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