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What engine is this?
Frank from Deeetroit wrote:
"trainfan1" wrote in message ... Steve Barker wrote: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy. Sure looks that way. Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block? This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the front of the engine as I see it. That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt patterns with the SBC. Anyone? Rob Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to the front of the engine. Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation. |
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Tom Adkins wrote:
Frank from Deeetroit wrote: "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Steve Barker wrote: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy. Sure looks that way. Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block? This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the front of the engine as I see it. That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt patterns with the SBC. Anyone? Rob Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to the front of the engine. Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation. The hard way. It's easier actually to run the engine backwards. But this is a good explanation, except again the pics are too small to see if that is a timing cover or a bell housing(starter & all on flywheel) behind the water pump. Rob |
What engine is this?
On Jun 16, 12:27 pm, trainfan1 wrote:
Tom Adkins wrote: Frank from Deeetroit wrote: "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Steve Barker wrote: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy. Sure looks that way. Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block? This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the front of the engine as I see it. That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt patterns with the SBC. Anyone? Rob Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to the front of the engine. Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation. The hard way. It's easier actually to run the engine backwards. But this is a good explanation, except again the pics are too small to see if that is a timing cover or a bell housing(starter & all on flywheel) behind the water pump. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, not really. The reason Chris Craft ddid that was to have the flywheel to the front of the boat, so they could get a lower profile, and clearence for the angle of the engine, seeing it was hooked directly to the trans, and the prop shaft were all in line with no u- joints or carrier berings. Or, thats the way it was described to me. |
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yup. sbc, reverse mount, and it is probably in a criss craft boat also.
"Frank from Deeetroit" wrote in message ... "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Steve Barker wrote: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy. Sure looks that way. Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block? This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the front of the engine as I see it. That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt patterns with the SBC. Anyone? Rob Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to the front of the engine. |
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Tom wrote:
yup. sbc, reverse mount, and it is probably in a criss craft boat also. 28 ft 1970s SlickCraft. Rob "Frank from Deeetroit" wrote in message ... "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Steve Barker wrote: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy. Sure looks that way. Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block? This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the front of the engine as I see it. That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt patterns with the SBC. Anyone? Rob Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to the front of the engine. |
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Tim wrote:
On Jun 16, 12:27 pm, trainfan1 wrote: Tom Adkins wrote: Frank from Deeetroit wrote: "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Steve Barker wrote: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy. Sure looks that way. Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block? This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the front of the engine as I see it. That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt patterns with the SBC. Anyone? Rob Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to the front of the engine. Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation. The hard way. It's easier actually to run the engine backwards. But this is a good explanation, except again the pics are too small to see if that is a timing cover or a bell housing(starter & all on flywheel) behind the water pump. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, not really. The reason Chris Craft did that was to have the flywheel to the front of the boat, so they could get a lower profile, and clearence for the angle of the engine, seeing it was hooked directly to the trans, and the prop shaft were all in line with no u- joints or carrier bearings. Or, thats the way it was described to me. For most newer boats that in line set up is not important. Most everyone now days uses u-joints and a drive shaft. There is an optimum u-joint angle for set up but I've forgotten what it is. Its good to have the support of rear main bearings if you have a drive shaft hooked up that leads to a jet pump or V-drive. Circle racers often would set up to run off the snout because the prop rotation tends to keep the boat from lifting and sliding in the turns. Many turned to getting the engine to run in the opposite direction because of the weakness of the front main bearing but one has to be careful to get the crank oil holes re-drilled because running backwards with a standard crank the centrifugal force will tend to impair oil pressure at high rpm's causing high dollar engines to go bye bye. |
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F.H. wrote:
Tim wrote: On Jun 16, 12:27 pm, trainfan1 wrote: Tom Adkins wrote: Frank from Deeetroit wrote: "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Steve Barker wrote: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy. Sure looks that way. Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block? This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the front of the engine as I see it. That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt patterns with the SBC. Anyone? Rob Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to the front of the engine. Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation. The hard way. It's easier actually to run the engine backwards. But this is a good explanation, except again the pics are too small to see if that is a timing cover or a bell housing(starter & all on flywheel) behind the water pump. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, not really. The reason Chris Craft did that was to have the flywheel to the front of the boat, so they could get a lower profile, and clearence for the angle of the engine, seeing it was hooked directly to the trans, and the prop shaft were all in line with no u- joints or carrier bearings. Or, thats the way it was described to me. For most newer boats that in line set up is not important. Most everyone now days uses u-joints and a drive shaft. What size boat are you talking about? All the Tournament, Tournament style, & Wakeboard inboards, direct & V-drive, have no u-joints. Rob There is an optimum u-joint angle for set up but I've forgotten what it is. Its good to have the support of rear main bearings if you have a drive shaft hooked up that leads to a jet pump or V-drive. Circle racers often would set up to run off the snout because the prop rotation tends to keep the boat from lifting and sliding in the turns. Many turned to getting the engine to run in the opposite direction because of the weakness of the front main bearing but one has to be careful to get the crank oil holes re-drilled because running backwards with a standard crank the centrifugal force will tend to impair oil pressure at high rpm's causing high dollar engines to go bye bye. |
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trainfan1 wrote:
F.H. wrote: Tim wrote: On Jun 16, 12:27 pm, trainfan1 wrote: Tom Adkins wrote: Frank from Deeetroit wrote: "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Steve Barker wrote: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy. Sure looks that way. Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block? This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the front of the engine as I see it. That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt patterns with the SBC. Anyone? Rob Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to the front of the engine. Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation. The hard way. It's easier actually to run the engine backwards. But this is a good explanation, except again the pics are too small to see if that is a timing cover or a bell housing(starter & all on flywheel) behind the water pump. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, not really. The reason Chris Craft did that was to have the flywheel to the front of the boat, so they could get a lower profile, and clearence for the angle of the engine, seeing it was hooked directly to the trans, and the prop shaft were all in line with no u- joints or carrier bearings. Or, thats the way it was described to me. For most newer boats that in line set up is not important. Most everyone now days uses u-joints and a drive shaft. What size boat are you talking about? All the Tournament, Tournament style, & Wakeboard inboards, direct & V-drive, have no u-joints. Rob My last boat was a 24' Day Cruiser with a 460 Ford and a Berkley Jet Drive. The jet was connected to the engine via a drive shaft. Before that I raced flat bottoms. Never saw one without a driveshaft connecting the enging to the V-Drive. In fact, most of the driveshafts were fairly long, by that I mean 3' or so. Boats like this: http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9705/claimzl2.jpg |
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"F.H." wrote in message news:yr_ci.1330$AR5.308@trnddc06... trainfan1 wrote: F.H. wrote: Tim wrote: On Jun 16, 12:27 pm, trainfan1 wrote: Tom Adkins wrote: Frank from Deeetroit wrote: "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Steve Barker wrote: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy. Sure looks that way. Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block? This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the front of the engine as I see it. That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt patterns with the SBC. Anyone? Rob Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to the front of the engine. Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation. The hard way. It's easier actually to run the engine backwards. But this is a good explanation, except again the pics are too small to see if that is a timing cover or a bell housing(starter & all on flywheel) behind the water pump. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, not really. The reason Chris Craft did that was to have the flywheel to the front of the boat, so they could get a lower profile, and clearence for the angle of the engine, seeing it was hooked directly to the trans, and the prop shaft were all in line with no u- joints or carrier bearings. Or, thats the way it was described to me. For most newer boats that in line set up is not important. Most everyone now days uses u-joints and a drive shaft. What size boat are you talking about? All the Tournament, Tournament style, & Wakeboard inboards, direct & V-drive, have no u-joints. Rob My last boat was a 24' Day Cruiser with a 460 Ford and a Berkley Jet Drive. The jet was connected to the engine via a drive shaft. Before that I raced flat bottoms. Never saw one without a driveshaft connecting the enging to the V-Drive. In fact, most of the driveshafts were fairly long, by that I mean 3' or so. Boats like this: http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9705/claimzl2.jpg My jet boat has a 10" drive shaft. Is a coupling to the flywheel a U-joint, a short adapter to a 2nd U-joint and a splined coupling to the jet input shaft. U-joints should always be in pairs at 90 degrees to each other. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"F.H." wrote in message news:yr_ci.1330$AR5.308@trnddc06... trainfan1 wrote: F.H. wrote: Tim wrote: On Jun 16, 12:27 pm, trainfan1 wrote: Tom Adkins wrote: Frank from Deeetroit wrote: "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Steve Barker wrote: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0174.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...c/IMG_0175.jpg the 429/460 has valve covers about twice as wide as these and more than 4 bolts in them. These valve covers are small block chevy. Sure looks that way. Did Grey Marine ever use Chevrolet heads on a proprietary block? This would be the only way to get the distributor drive gear into the front of the engine as I see it. That distributor is right where they are on the FE blocks. I can't think of any common wide block that shares bore spacing &/or bolt patterns with the SBC. Anyone? Rob Looks like a smallblock chevy that is installed with the front of the engine facing to the rear of the boat. The water pump and belts look like they are mounted on the back of the engine and the drive shaft would be connected to the front of the engine. Aaaahhhhh, for reverse rotation. The hard way. It's easier actually to run the engine backwards. But this is a good explanation, except again the pics are too small to see if that is a timing cover or a bell housing(starter & all on flywheel) behind the water pump. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, not really. The reason Chris Craft did that was to have the flywheel to the front of the boat, so they could get a lower profile, and clearence for the angle of the engine, seeing it was hooked directly to the trans, and the prop shaft were all in line with no u- joints or carrier bearings. Or, thats the way it was described to me. For most newer boats that in line set up is not important. Most everyone now days uses u-joints and a drive shaft. What size boat are you talking about? All the Tournament, Tournament style, & Wakeboard inboards, direct & V-drive, have no u-joints. Rob My last boat was a 24' Day Cruiser with a 460 Ford and a Berkley Jet Drive. The jet was connected to the engine via a drive shaft. Before that I raced flat bottoms. Never saw one without a driveshaft connecting the enging to the V-Drive. In fact, most of the driveshafts were fairly long, by that I mean 3' or so. Boats like this: http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9705/claimzl2.jpg My jet boat has a 10" drive shaft. Is a coupling to the flywheel a U-joint, a short adapter to a 2nd U-joint and a splined coupling to the jet input shaft. U-joints should always be in pairs at 90 degrees to each other. Without the spline, engine install would be difficult to say the least. Been a while but I seem to recall we shot for about 3 degrees on the drive shafts in the flat bottoms and with those, (prop driven via V-Drive) the shafts naturally tend to be longer. |
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