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Jim June 2nd 07 01:31 AM

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"RCE" wrote in message
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Ok. Now that we all understand and agree on the mechanics of steering a
motorcycle, let's consider this situation.

Twin screw inboard.
No wind.
Little or no current.

Helm hard over to port.
Starboard engine at idle
Starboard transmission in "forward".

Port engine at idle
Port transmission in "reverse".

Which way will the boat move?

Eisboch

Being that you are slightly right leaning and have lost a significant amount
of weight and your thrusters don't work, your boat will crab to port as long
as you don't sneeze while facing to port or fart while facing to stbd.



RCE June 2nd 07 01:35 AM

Boats and motorcycles
 

"Jim" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"RCE" wrote in message
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Ok. Now that we all understand and agree on the mechanics of steering a
motorcycle, let's consider this situation.

Twin screw inboard.
No wind.
Little or no current.

Helm hard over to port.
Starboard engine at idle
Starboard transmission in "forward".

Port engine at idle
Port transmission in "reverse".

Which way will the boat move?

Eisboch

Being that you are slightly right leaning and have lost a significant
amount of weight and your thrusters don't work, your boat will crab to
port as long as you don't sneeze while facing to port or fart while facing
to stbd.


Bingo!

(It will move sideways)

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing June 2nd 07 01:51 AM

Boats and motorcycles
 
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:48:43 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

Ok. Now that we all understand and agree on the mechanics of steering a
motorcycle, let's consider this situation.

Twin screw inboard.
No wind.
Little or no current.

Helm hard over to port.
Starboard engine at idle
Starboard transmission in "forward".

Port engine at idle
Port transmission in "reverse".

Which way will the boat move?


I KNOW - I KNOW!!!

Sideways.

Chuck Gould June 2nd 07 01:52 AM

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On Jun 1, 5:35?pm, "RCE" wrote:


Bingo!

(It will move sideways)

Eisboch


In some cases, yes.



JimH June 2nd 07 01:52 AM

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"JimH" wrote in message
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"RCE" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jun 1, 4:48?pm, "RCE" wrote:
Ok. Now that we all understand and agree on the mechanics of steering
a
motorcycle, let's consider this situation.

Twin screw inboard.
No wind.
Little or no current.

Helm hard over to port.
Starboard engine at idle
Starboard transmission in "forward".

Port engine at idle
Port transmission in "reverse".

Which way will the boat move?

Eisboch

Depends on how long the boat is.

May not go anywhere considering engines are at idle


Oh, it will move.

I posed the question poorly. Better questions a

Which way will the bow move?
Which way will the stern move?

Eisboch


With the rudder in the neutral position the boat would pivot to port.

With the rudder hard port one may think the boat may tend to move even
more aggressively (bow) to port....



After seeing Jim's answer you have to understand that I *meant* to say "tend
to move even less aggressively to port".......and "walking" port to
starboard.......

Yeah, that's the ticket!



Tim June 2nd 07 02:14 AM

Boats and motorcycles
 
On Jun 1, 7:52 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

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"RCE" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message
groups.com...
On Jun 1, 4:48?pm, "RCE" wrote:
Ok. Now that we all understand and agree on the mechanics of steering
a
motorcycle, let's consider this situation.


Twin screw inboard.
No wind.
Little or no current.


Helm hard over to port.
Starboard engine at idle
Starboard transmission in "forward".


Port engine at idle
Port transmission in "reverse".


Which way will the boat move?


Eisboch


Depends on how long the boat is.


May not go anywhere considering engines are at idle


Oh, it will move.


I posed the question poorly. Better questions a


Which way will the bow move?
Which way will the stern move?


Eisboch


With the rudder in the neutral position the boat would pivot to port.


With the rudder hard port one may think the boat may tend to move even
more aggressively (bow) to port....


After seeing Jim's answer you have to understand that I *meant* to say "tend
to move even less aggressively to port".......and "walking" port to
starboard.......

Yeah, that's the ticket!- Hide quoted text -

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But, it will still hit the side of the slip......


Calif Bill June 3rd 07 08:16 PM

Boats and motorcycles
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:48:43 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

Ok. Now that we all understand and agree on the mechanics of steering a
motorcycle, let's consider this situation.

Twin screw inboard.
No wind.
Little or no current.

Helm hard over to port.
Starboard engine at idle
Starboard transmission in "forward".

Port engine at idle
Port transmission in "reverse".

Which way will the boat move?


I KNOW - I KNOW!!!

Sideways.


Downwards? Crashed in to the dock, received a holing?




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