"Joe" wrote in message
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Nevertheless, we all do make mistakes. So did the guy in charge of the
Exxon
Valdez. Some are more serious than others. BTW, the boat was recovered
with
minor damage.

Lets look at the photos.

Is that his boat? Yes

Is that a proper bottom job, or half assed at best?

It doesn't look that bad, especially given when it was hauled and painted
last, but in any case, that has little to do with seamanship.

Maintaining a boat is number one for seamanship. A squared away ship
is always safer than a negelected ship.

And, it was well-maintained except for your notion that the bottom needed to
be hauled before the next season.


Is he clearly sailing near shore ...where during rip currents or tides
waves tend to build and roll?

You've just described a good portion of the bay.

Then a good portion of the bay should be avoided by sailors in small
sailboats..right?

I strongly suggest you don't sail out here, because that's what I would
recommend for you. g

Is he outside the channel through the bridge in a area that has to be
shallow due to bridge supports and shore?

Yup.. outside the channel, which is perfectly reasonable in most
conditions,
in an aread that many, many people sail, which isn't actually that
shallow.

Shallow enough to produce rollers

So?

Did he sail into a washing machine and not tack out of a surf?

Yup.. the mistake.

Did he turn into the ditch in a rolling surf and capsize?

Could he have surfed the boat and turned out after the roller ?

Doubtful. Who knows. I don't know anyone who can make the claim to be
able
to do it in those conditions.

Was he paying attention?

Nope. Again, the mistake.

I can think of another 5 stupid things he did...can you?

Good for you. Can you think of things he did right?

Waited for a surfer to rescue him, sailed alone, wearing bright
colored clothes

Nope. Wrong. He had crew. Duhh... look at the pictures again.

And you call yourself Capt ?

Feel free to insult me if you think that makes you look better.

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"j" ganz

hEY DUMBKALPH. I could care less about looking better or insulting
you.

Clearly you do care. You're still trying.

He's lucky not to be dead or missing a limb.

Yes, he's lucky.


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Yes, he's lucky.

Yikes, pictures like that belong in the dictionary next to the
definition of "bad day." Living on the east coast and having only
driven over the Golden Gate, I have no idea what this place really
looks like. But my question is this, why would someone choose to
enter the bay between the south bridge pier and so close to the
shore? The presence of surfers suggests that this is a spot know of
consistent breaking waves. Its easy to say so from the comfort of my
office, that it seems I would never want to enter the bay that way,
perhaps staying in deeper water and away from the breakers. Are there
locals who might comment? I have come in through Sebastian Inlet in
Florida lots of times, another place the surfers love, and there have
been a lot of times when the inlet looked deceptively smooth when
looking in from the outside. But Sebastian is a mean ol critter, has
eaten its fair share of boats, and I wouldnt trust it when its flat
and glassy.

I am sorry the guy lost his boat, and grateful that was all that
appears to have been lost.

take care . . .

John

"John" wrote in message
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Yes, he's lucky.

Yikes, pictures like that belong in the dictionary next to the
definition of "bad day." Living on the east coast and having only
driven over the Golden Gate, I have no idea what this place really
looks like. But my question is this, why would someone choose to
enter the bay between the south bridge pier and so close to the
shore? The presence of surfers suggests that this is a spot know of
consistent breaking waves. Its easy to say so from the comfort of my
office, that it seems I would never want to enter the bay that way,
perhaps staying in deeper water and away from the breakers. Are there
locals who might comment? I have come in through Sebastian Inlet in
Florida lots of times, another place the surfers love, and there have
been a lot of times when the inlet looked deceptively smooth when
looking in from the outside. But Sebastian is a mean ol critter, has
eaten its fair share of boats, and I wouldnt trust it when its flat
and glassy.

It can be perfectly passable, and I've sailed there many times, including
big boats such as a B39 and with my old Cal 20. Obviously, the skipper made
a huge mistake. Interestingly, he didn't lose his boat. It was recovered
with minimal damage beyond the rigging, refloated, and continues to sail.

I am sorry the guy lost his boat, and grateful that was all that
appears to have been lost.

take care . . .

John




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Interestingly, he didn't lose his boat. It was recovered
with minimal damage beyond the rigging, refloated, and continues to sail.


Kind of like the saying amongst pilots:
Any landing that you can walk away from is a good one . . .
any landing that you can use the plane again is a great one.

Take care . . .

John

"John" wrote in message
oups.com...
Interestingly, he didn't lose his boat. It was recovered
with minimal damage beyond the rigging, refloated, and continues to sail.


Kind of like the saying amongst pilots:
Any landing that you can walk away from is a good one . . .
any landing that you can use the plane again is a great one.

Take care . . .

John




Yeah, I guess... it was just a matter of money and embarassment for him I
guess.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com