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Hi, I just recently rebuilt the 3 carbs and put new plugs in my 1999
Johnson 60horse on my 17' Montauk. I can get the throttle about 3/4 the way forward and then in just bogs down. What I just notice today though, is that I can push the throttle all the way up and then, intermitently push the choke and get full speed and smooth running out of it! I'm thinking that the throttle is giving more air than gas and that might explain why the additional choking helps? I'm no mechanic, so I may be way off, could it be the other way around? Once I know whether it needs more air, or more gas, how would I adjust this? Is it the 2 cables coming into the motor that go to the plates? 1 must be air, another gas.... Any help is greatly appreciated! It seems like the engine is only a small adjustment away from being great and I just bought the boat, so I'm looking foward to having it running well soon! |
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Also wondering lately, what might I expect to pay for a routine tuneup
and oilchange? I'd do the oil myself, but the Lower unit screw won't even budge... |
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Just wanted to add... I'm not completely sure what the adjustments on
the crabs are yet. I have a very small brass screw at the top and a steel screw below it ( slow speed needle?) I have the steel screw backed out 2 turns and the brass ones on tight.. When I bought the motor everything was messed up, so I'm not sure how to adjust these. BTW, what might I expect to pay for a routine tuneup and oilchange? I'd do the oil myself, but the Lower unit screw won't even budge... |
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This morning I opened up the fuel pump and cleaned it. It was very
yellow inside! Immediately out on the water, I saw a difference, when pushing the throttle up, it still bogged, but then came up and stayed up to full speed! I think it's safe now to say that the fuel pump is the issue. I ran it for 2 hrs today and it's the best it's been yet! Now I'm not sure how to finally fix this, a fuel pump rebuild, or a new one all together? I may start with a new fuel filter incase that is coming into play somehow. Should I stick with 50 to 1 nix? I was using wlamart 2 cycle, but just picked up a case of Valvoline... Read that cheap 2 cycle will foul up more. |
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On May 25, 3:49 pm, wrote:
This morning I opened up the fuel pump and cleaned it. It was very yellow inside! Immediately out on the water, I saw a difference, when pushing the throttle up, it still bogged, but then came up and stayed up to full speed! I think it's safe now to say that the fuel pump is the issue. I ran it for 2 hrs today and it's the best it's been yet! Now I'm not sure how to finally fix this, a fuel pump rebuild, or a new one all together? I may start with a new fuel filter incase that is coming into play somehow. Should I stick with 50 to 1 nix? I was using wlamart 2 cycle, but just picked up a case of Valvoline... Read that cheap 2 cycle will foul up more. Don't worry yet about fouling up more, let's get you foulded up less first ![]() anyway, you have put enough into this so far, just finish the job and be done with it. Get a new pump and filter, and put em' on. Don't skimp now after all that work and money, finish the job and go out on the water with confidence. Just my opinion. |
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Yes, I'll be replacing it as soon as I can find one! I'm looking
online but can't come across one yet! It's a 1999 Johnson 60 Horse, fuel pump has a metal plate on front where it attaches to engine. I'm pretty sure a new one will be the key to getting the preformance up to 100%. |
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Just wanted to add... I'm not completely sure what the adjustments on
the carbs are yet. I have a very small brass screw at the top and a steel screw below it ( slow speed needle?) I have the steel screw backed out 2 turns and the brass ones on tight.. When I bought the motor everything was messed up, so I'm not sure how to adjust these. BTW, what might I expect to pay for a routine tuneup and oilchange? I'd do the oil myself, but the Lower unit screw won't even budge... |
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On May 24, 5:39 pm, wrote:
Hi, I just recently rebuilt the 3 carbs and put new plugs in my 1999 Johnson 60horse on my 17' Montauk. I can get the throttle about 3/4 the way forward and then in just bogs down. What I just notice today though, is that I can push the throttle all the way up and then, intermitently push the choke and get full speed and smooth running out of it! I'm thinking that the throttle is giving more air than gas and that might explain why the additional choking helps? I'm no mechanic, so I may be way off, could it be the other way around? Once I know whether it needs more air, or more gas, how would I adjust this? Is it the 2 cables coming into the motor that go to the plates? 1 must be air, another gas.... Any help is greatly appreciated! It seems like the engine is only a small adjustment away from being great and I just bought the boat, so I'm looking foward to having it running well soon! Sounds like it is starving for fuel, check the lines, pump, filter, filter, filter and make sure you put everything together correctly, timing is right, advance, etc... But it sounds like the first thing I would check is fuel delivery. |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... Hi, I just recently rebuilt the 3 carbs and put new plugs in my 1999 Johnson 60horse on my 17' Montauk. I can get the throttle about 3/4 the way forward and then in just bogs down. What I just notice today though, is that I can push the throttle all the way up and then, intermitently push the choke and get full speed and smooth running out of it! Did you replace the gaskets or re-use them? The small 1/2" dia. gasket that goes around the high speed nozzle is very important and if leaking air or not installed, the motor will have the same symptoms that you describe. By hitting the "choke" you are opening an electric valve that allows raw fuel into the intake. Since the motor then increases power, that means that your carbs are not delivering enough fuel for some reason. What did you set the float adjustment at? |
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