On May 19, 7:51 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 19 May 2007 19:10:13 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:
USDA Certified ingredients a Organic,
saponified coconut oil, organic olive oil, organic jojoba oil, organic
vegetable glycerin, organic lemongrass essential oil, organic aloe
vera, rosemary extract, and other natural essential oils.

Sounds like a salad dressing.

I'm buying some to use on the Ranger.

It better be good or you will never hear the end of it. :)

If you get the same sort of results I did, you'll be very pleased.
It's nice to be able to use a cleaner that is environmentally friendly
*and* does a good job. With your interest in conservation, etc, it
isn't surprising that you would want to try this out.

On May 19, 8:03 pm, David Scheidt wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

:What's in it?

:So, if there are no toxins, no chemicals, no phosphates, no
:detergents, and no nitrates in Latitude 43, what makes it work?
:According to the label, USDA Certified ingredients a Organic,
:saponified coconut oil, organic olive oil, organic jojoba oil, organic
:vegetable glycerin, organic lemongrass essential oil, organic aloe
:vera, rosemary extract, and other natural essential oils. The

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

Yes indeed, but not "detergent," and there's nothing petroleum based.
Even the so-called "biodegradable" boat washes use a lot of petroleum
products. As the name of the product is "Latitude 43 Organic Boat
Soap", one could realistically expect to find some soap in there
someplace.

I'm scheduled to call a guy next week who is one of the enforcement
officers with the
city's Department of Public Utilities and also has a degree in
chemistry. I have a second-hand report that he has done an analysis on
this specific stuff and was very pleased and surprised at what he
*didn't* find in it. I need to verify this report by speaking to him
directly, but it doesn't require a chemist to see that this stuff is
different from most other cleaners. If nothing else, the lack of suds
is remarkable- and the results are first class.

On May 20, 4:40 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

Yes indeed, but not "detergent,"

It cleans, so by definition it's detergent. The claim to not consume
oxygen in the water is ridiculous.

On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:20:32 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

I sure hope that stuff keeps the soap police off of your backs!

If there are no visible suds in the water that will do a lot to ward
off evil spirits.

One of my pet peeves with Simple Green is the enormous amount of suds
that it generates.

On May 20, 4:21 pm, wrote:
On May 20, 4:40 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

Yes indeed, but not "detergent,"

It cleans, so by definition it's detergent. The claim to not consume
oxygen in the water is ridiculous.

I believe that the oxygen claim is based on the fact that there aren't
any nitrates or phosphates in the formula. Nitrogen and phosphorous
are two of the primary ingredients in commercial fertilizer, and when
introduced to the water can promote "algae blooms". As I understand
it, when the algae finishes blooming and dies the decomposing organic
matter depletes oxygen in the water.

You define all soap products as detergents? (just curious)

wrote:
On 19 May 2007 19:10:13 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:


Latitude 43 Organic Boat Soap


I have a friend that makes Charlie's Soap. Claims are about the same
and I can vouch for the fact that his soap works extremely well. My
wife loves if for the laundry, too.
http://www.charliesoap.com/


We used to boil old Nazis to make soap, but they are hard to find these
days.

On May 19, 11:03 pm, David Scheidt wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

:What's in it?

:So, if there are no toxins, no chemicals, no phosphates, no
:detergents, and no nitrates in Latitude 43, what makes it work?
:According to the label, USDA Certified ingredients a Organic,
:saponified coconut oil, organic olive oil, organic jojoba oil, organic
:vegetable glycerin, organic lemongrass essential oil, organic aloe
:vera, rosemary extract, and other natural essential oils. The

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

Seeing how the definition of "soap" is simply a surfacant, almost any
liquid could be called "soap"

Gene Kearns wrote:
On 21 May 2007 11:20:16 -0700, basskisser wrote:

Seeing how the definition of "soap" is simply a surfacant, almost any
liquid could be called "soap"


I don't know where your definition of soap came from, but all of the
definitions of soap I have ever read include verbiage to the effect
"....made from a mixture of the sodium salts of various fatty acids of
natural oils and fats...." or "...metallic salt of a fatty acid..."

So, I don't think any conclusion drawn that "almost any liquid could
be called "soap"" could possibly be correct.


I'll drink a schnapps whiskey to that!


-- Charlie

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On 21 May 2007 11:20:16 -0700, basskisser wrote:

On May 19, 11:03 pm, David Scheidt wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

:What's in it?

:So, if there are no toxins, no chemicals, no phosphates, no
:detergents, and no nitrates in Latitude 43, what makes it work?
:According to the label, USDA Certified ingredients a Organic,
:saponified coconut oil, organic olive oil, organic jojoba oil, organic
:vegetable glycerin, organic lemongrass essential oil, organic aloe
:vera, rosemary extract, and other natural essential oils. The

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

Seeing how the definition of "soap" is simply a surfacant, almost any
liquid could be called "soap"

I don't know where your definition of soap came from, but all of the
definitions of soap I have ever read include verbiage to the effect
"....made from a mixture of the sodium salts of various fatty acids of
natural oils and fats...." or "...metallic salt of a fatty acid..."

So, I don't think any conclusion drawn that "almost any liquid could
be called "soap"" could possibly be correct.
--


I wonder if he washes his dishes, clothes or cars with acetone, maple syrup,
paint, orange juice, gasoline, etc............. ;-)

On May 21, 8:56 am, Chuck Gould wrote:

Saponified coconut oil is more commonly known as "soap".

Yes indeed, but not "detergent,"

It cleans, so by definition it's detergent. The claim to not consume
oxygen in the water is ridiculous.

I believe that the oxygen claim is based on the fact that there aren't
any nitrates or phosphates in the formula. Nitrogen and phosphorous
are two of the primary ingredients in commercial fertilizer, and when
introduced to the water can promote "algae blooms". As I understand
it, when the algae finishes blooming and dies the decomposing organic
matter depletes oxygen in the water.

True, and in that sense a small amount of limiting nutrient could lead
eventually to a larger depletion of oxygen. But then they should just
say it doesn't contain P or N, because clearly soap has calories and
does have to consume oxygen to be broken down.

You define all soap products as detergents? (just curious)

No, I define all, and only, CLEANING products as detergents. A soap
product is a detergent if it's for cleaning. (Some soap products are
used for other purposes, such as lubrication.) Sand is a detergent if
it's used for cleaning. See also http://users.bestweb.net/~robgood/suds/terminol.html
.. However, the term is commonly MISused to indicate specifically
soapless but soaplike detergents, and even for surfactants with no
significant cleaning properties.

Robert