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JimH May 20th 07 03:43 AM

West Marine
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 22:34:28 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:39:55 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sun, 20 May 2007 01:19:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:00:29 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:5didnaLP944aBNLbnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@gigane ws.com...

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
...

resist taking advantage of their offer of a roll of "premium"
vinyl
black
electrical tape. 7 bucks a roll.

we had a short that killed the engine -- we seperated the wires out
(plastic
melted after touching a manifold) the closest marina was "Narrows
Marina" at
day island.

Now I like these guys; they're nice -- friendly, and fuel prices
are
reasonable.
the electrical tape -- $15.99

yes; I bought it.

Next time you're at Lowe's or The Home Depot:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...1029-133-41029

Hey, it is not 'marine rated builders ultra super premium grade'
ordinary
plastic adhesive electrical tape!!!!!!

Best. Electrical. Tape. Ever.

http://tinyurl.com/228hal

Indeed, it is! And, if you must.... you can coat with this:
http://tinyurl.com/2lddml

All my antenna connections were taped and coated with that stuff.

I also used a putty like sealant I got from Radio Shack of all places.
That stuff worked great.


I often use an orange colored tape from Radio Shack that seals an
electrical
connection as tight as heat shrink tube.


Somewhere in my radio shack junk/spare parts drawer, I have shrink
tape.

Doesn't work all that well. :)


The tape I use from RS works perfectly well. You may not be using the same
stuff. ;-)



Short Wave Sportfishing May 20th 07 03:54 AM

West Marine
 
On Sat, 19 May 2007 22:43:52 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 19 May 2007 22:34:28 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:39:55 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sun, 20 May 2007 01:19:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:00:29 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:5didnaLP944aBNLbnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@gigan ews.com...

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
...

resist taking advantage of their offer of a roll of "premium"
vinyl
black
electrical tape. 7 bucks a roll.

we had a short that killed the engine -- we seperated the wires out
(plastic
melted after touching a manifold) the closest marina was "Narrows
Marina" at
day island.

Now I like these guys; they're nice -- friendly, and fuel prices
are
reasonable.
the electrical tape -- $15.99

yes; I bought it.

Next time you're at Lowe's or The Home Depot:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...1029-133-41029

Hey, it is not 'marine rated builders ultra super premium grade'
ordinary
plastic adhesive electrical tape!!!!!!

Best. Electrical. Tape. Ever.

http://tinyurl.com/228hal

Indeed, it is! And, if you must.... you can coat with this:
http://tinyurl.com/2lddml

All my antenna connections were taped and coated with that stuff.

I also used a putty like sealant I got from Radio Shack of all places.
That stuff worked great.

I often use an orange colored tape from Radio Shack that seals an
electrical
connection as tight as heat shrink tube.


Somewhere in my radio shack junk/spare parts drawer, I have shrink
tape.

Doesn't work all that well. :)


The tape I use from RS works perfectly well. You may not be using the same
stuff. ;-)


Is it a shrink tape?

JimH May 20th 07 04:08 AM

West Marine
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 May 2007 22:43:52 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 19 May 2007 22:34:28 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:39:55 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sun, 20 May 2007 01:19:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:00:29 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:5didnaLP944aBNLbnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giga news.com...

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
...

resist taking advantage of their offer of a roll of "premium"
vinyl
black
electrical tape. 7 bucks a roll.

we had a short that killed the engine -- we seperated the wires
out
(plastic
melted after touching a manifold) the closest marina was
"Narrows
Marina" at
day island.

Now I like these guys; they're nice -- friendly, and fuel prices
are
reasonable.
the electrical tape -- $15.99

yes; I bought it.

Next time you're at Lowe's or The Home Depot:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...1029-133-41029

Hey, it is not 'marine rated builders ultra super premium grade'
ordinary
plastic adhesive electrical tape!!!!!!

Best. Electrical. Tape. Ever.

http://tinyurl.com/228hal

Indeed, it is! And, if you must.... you can coat with this:
http://tinyurl.com/2lddml

All my antenna connections were taped and coated with that stuff.

I also used a putty like sealant I got from Radio Shack of all places.
That stuff worked great.

I often use an orange colored tape from Radio Shack that seals an
electrical
connection as tight as heat shrink tube.

Somewhere in my radio shack junk/spare parts drawer, I have shrink
tape.

Doesn't work all that well. :)


The tape I use from RS works perfectly well. You may not be using the
same
stuff. ;-)


Is it a shrink tape?


Yep. Orange colored. I normally solder the connection then wrap it in the
tape. I do not boat on salt water so your experience with it may be
different than mine as I have never had a failure.



Calif Bill May 20th 07 04:14 AM

West Marine
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:00:29 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
om...

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
...

resist taking advantage of their offer of a roll of "premium" vinyl
black
electrical tape. 7 bucks a roll.

we had a short that killed the engine -- we seperated the wires out
(plastic
melted after touching a manifold) the closest marina was "Narrows
Marina" at
day island.

Now I like these guys; they're nice -- friendly, and fuel prices are
reasonable.
the electrical tape -- $15.99

yes; I bought it.

Next time you're at Lowe's or The Home Depot:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...1029-133-41029


Hey, it is not 'marine rated builders ultra super premium grade' ordinary
plastic adhesive electrical tape!!!!!!


Best. Electrical. Tape. Ever.

http://tinyurl.com/228hal


For boats PVC tape is better. After you tape it, put a little PVC pipe glue
on the tape, and it will be welded solid and not let any water in. Works as
well as liquid tape on the trailer light connections.



Calif Bill May 20th 07 04:17 AM

West Marine
 

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
...
we had a short that killed the engine -- we seperated the wires out
(plastic
melted after touching a manifold) the closest marina was "Narrows
Marina"
at
day island.

Now I like these guys; they're nice -- friendly, and fuel prices are
reasonable.
the electrical tape -- $15.99

yes; I bought it.



Next time you're at Lowe's or The Home Depot:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...1029-133-41029


Well -- Why would I buy a 70 cent roll of tape when I have a 16 dollar
roll???
Mine MUST be better.

We were underway; and didn't want to abandon our trip to go home.... If I
had
been home, there was a couple of rolls in the trunk of the car.... But
I'd have
spent that much in fuel to go home to get it...


That is one of the items in the boat tool kit. Plus a meter and some wire
of different colors. Plus some butt connectors and other end connectors.



Vic Smith May 20th 07 04:54 AM

West Marine
 
On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:00:29 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...



Next time you're at Lowe's or The Home Depot:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...1029-133-41029

Eisboch


Hey, it is not 'marine rated builders ultra super premium grade' ordinary
plastic adhesive electrical tape!!!!!!

Maybe you didn't read it correctly.
Duck Electrical Tape.
A duck is an aquatic, or marine bird.
That's marine tape there. Good stuff for da boat.
But Navy tape would be better.

--Vic

Josh Assing May 20th 07 06:12 AM

West Marine
 
but I can't tell the difference between that and my el-cheapo @ home...

You will with two or three years of exposure at 100 feet in the air
exposed to the elements.


You mean to tell me I'll come to fully appreciate $16 electrical tape? I mean;
I'm already appreciative of it becuase it kept us boating that day... so it was
worth it -- but "in the scope of things" it's not worth it.

Josh Assing May 20th 07 06:12 AM

West Marine
 
\That is one of the items in the boat tool kit. Plus a meter and some wire
of different colors. Plus some butt connectors and other end connectors.


I could make a lot of excusses for why the tape was in the car and not in the
boat -- but communication break down was a major cause.

One thing I keep on the boat now is a coat hanger -- the coat hanger allowed me
to jump the house battery to the starting battery & get the engine going again
until we located the cause of the problem... You just don't hear enough folks
say "keep a wire coat hanger on board"

-j

sherwindu May 20th 07 08:08 AM

West Marine
 
Just for comparison, I remember many years ago there was a store in Chicago called
Land's End that carried almost every conceivable kind of boat hardware.
Unfortunately, the bean counters got control of the company and now they are a
catalog and outlet store with dappy nautical looking clothing. There was a similar
store called Chicago Navigation Equitpment that simply vanished that had an excellent
supply of boat hardware and supplies. It's all catalogs and internet shopping now,
but I miss those stores where you could actually handle something before you bought
it.

Sherwin D.

sherwindu wrote:

Send some of those Mom and Pop stores to the Chicago area. West Marine has
got things sewed up here, except for a Boating World store in the far west
suburbs.

I keep my boat in Racine Wisconsin with a nearby West Marine. I can expect a
50% chance of not finding items for my boat. Just last week I needed a fuel line
connector for my Yamaha 9.9 outboard. Of course, they were out of them. There
is nothing like a bit of healthy competition to wake these guys up.

Sherwin D.

Larry Weiss wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
Anybody go shopping lately at West Marine?

I hadn't been there for a couple of years. I stopped in today because I was
thinking of picking up three new LED type cockpit light fixtures to replace
the halogen bulb types.
I did this a few years ago in the upper station .... replaced the stock
halogens with red LED types. IIRC, the fixtures were about 15 bucks each
then.

Found them today at West Marine and grabbed three. Then I noticed the price.
$34.95 each. Hung them back on the display rack.

Talk about big oil ripping off the customers.

35 bucks for a 75 cent plastic fixture and a 2 dollar LED?

Gimmie a break.

Eisboch


Many boaters on Long Island have had it with West to the point where
they have closed several stores. The stores that are left are poorly
stocked and overpriced.

Meanwhile the local mom and pops are thriving. Good for them.

Larry Weiss
"...Ever After!"



HK May 20th 07 11:07 AM

West Marine
 
sherwindu wrote:
Just for comparison, I remember many years ago there was a store in Chicago called
Land's End that carried almost every conceivable kind of boat hardware.
Unfortunately, the bean counters got control of the company and now they are a
catalog and outlet store with dappy nautical looking clothing. There was a similar
store called Chicago Navigation Equitpment that simply vanished that had an excellent
supply of boat hardware and supplies. It's all catalogs and internet shopping now,
but I miss those stores where you could actually handle something before you bought
it.


Land's End is now owned by Sears.

Hell, I remember when Abercrombie and Fitch was a real outfitter to
sportsmen, instead of a purveyor of clothes to young yups.


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