got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

longshot wrote:

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first
time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he
gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!



Are you talking about a gasket between the boot on an outdrive and the
transom? The transom is part of the hull. Well, it is on most boats. Was
it an afterthought on Bayliners of that vintage?

On May 15, 11:54 am, "longshot" wrote:


$3100 for the boast ,

Yup. The guy you bought it from is still boasting about how he found a
buyer. :-)



$80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for
the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Don't be surprised if repairs surpass the price of the boat by the end
of the 2nd season.
Old boats bought cheaply usually cost a lot more to run, per hour,
than a newer boat would. Normally, that's why somebody gave up in
total frustration and sold it cheaply to begin with.

Did you buy this boat from a dealer or privte party? Sounds like you
didn't get a chance to splash and run it before buying, ($80 to
dewinterize). If you bought it from a dealer you might try going back
an asking for some assistance. There are some who would say, "tough
toenails, we sold it cheap and as-is so deal with it." Others might be
a bit more progressve and remark, "You bought the boat as is, but your
satisfaction is important to us and our reputation. If you let us
repair it in our shop, we'll charge you for the part but absorb the
labor."

If you bought from a private party you can't expect any assistance at
all. 10 to 1 odds the seller will claim he "didn't know" the boat had
a bad boot, whether he actually did or not.

"longshot" wrote in message news:Rln2i.5771$vu2.470@trndny01...

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

These days, to get a boat mechanic to show up and pee in your bilge for $300-400 is reasonable. For him to actually fix something for that price is an outright steal.

1. The problem you mention is a common one.

2. Yes, the engine does need to be pulled to replace the seal.

3. $300-400 is more than reasonable for the job, assuming the mechanic is competent to do it correctly.


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$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

I've got bad news for you, sunshine. You're just barely getting started. You have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but you will.

To verify where the leak is, fill the bilge with a garden hose while the boat is on the trailer. Fill it high enough to involve the bottom of the transom mount for the outdrive, but low enough not to involve the starter motor or any other electrics. If you have an automatic bilge pump, temporarily disable it. Observe where the water exits at the transom. Leak found and confirmed. Drain bilge by removing the plug. Sometimes the drain plug itself can be the source of the leak, which is a cheap fix.

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$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

I've got bad news for you, sunshine. You're just barely getting started. You have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but you will.



exactly what i was afraid of

"HK" wrote in message
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longshot wrote:
got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first
time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he
gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?
$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!



Are you talking about a gasket between the boot on an outdrive and the
transom? The transom is part of the hull. Well, it is on most boats. Was
it an afterthought on Bayliners of that vintage?


i guess so, its behind that boot, you really can't see the leak because of
the motor on one side & the outdrive on the other

longshot wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
longshot wrote:
got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first
time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he
gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?
$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!


Are you talking about a gasket between the boot on an outdrive and the
transom? The transom is part of the hull. Well, it is on most boats. Was
it an afterthought on Bayliners of that vintage?


i guess so, its behind that boot, you really can't see the leak because of
the motor on one side & the outdrive on the other



If you are paying that much, make sure the dealer checks everything for
cracks, leaks, whatever.

On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:54:41 GMT, "longshot" wrote:

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the
first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it.
he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees,
now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Oy - you will soon learn that BOAT stands for Bring Over Another
Thousand or Break Out Another Thousand.

BOAT can also mean Boat Operator Accredited Training but that's only
in Canada there they use hockey pucks for fuel.

See if I'm not right - this boat will cost you just about $3,100 by
the time the season is over. :)

Hey - it's only money. :)

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:54:41 GMT, "longshot" wrote:

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the
first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it.
he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees,
now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Oy - you will soon learn that BOAT stands for Bring Over Another
Thousand or Break Out Another Thousand.

BOAT can also mean Boat Operator Accredited Training but that's only
in Canada there they use hockey pucks for fuel.

See if I'm not right - this boat will cost you just about $3,100 by
the time the season is over. :)

yeah, but not every season, right?

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 15, 11:54 am, "longshot" wrote:


$3100 for the boast ,

Yup. The guy you bought it from is still boasting about how he found a
buyer. :-)



$80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for
the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Don't be surprised if repairs surpass the price of the boat by the end
of the 2nd season.
Old boats bought cheaply usually cost a lot more to run, per hour,
than a newer boat would. Normally, that's why somebody gave up in
total frustration and sold it cheaply to begin with.

Did you buy this boat from a dealer or privte party? Sounds like you
didn't get a chance to splash and run it before buying, ($80 to
dewinterize). If you bought it from a dealer you might try going back
an asking for some assistance. There are some who would say, "tough
toenails, we sold it cheap and as-is so deal with it." Others might be
a bit more progressve and remark, "You bought the boat as is, but your
satisfaction is important to us and our reputation. If you let us
repair it in our shop, we'll charge you for the part but absorb the
labor."

If you bought from a private party you can't expect any assistance at
all. 10 to 1 odds the seller will claim he "didn't know" the boat had
a bad boot, whether he actually did or not.



I bought it from a guy, that bought it at the end of the summer last
season. He took it to a mechanic/ storage facility, they replaced the boot
thinking that was the leak. $800 bucks worth of labor. Said bayliner has a
new $600 cover on it/ Trailer was replaced in 1995 with a shore lander & is
in perfect shape. Cushions in Cuddy are newer. all vinyl is in good shape,
all wood / fiberglass on the boat is solid. engine is a 305 & runs smooth.
started up within 3 tries.