"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:54:41 GMT, "longshot" wrote:

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the
first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it.
he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees,
now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Oy - you will soon learn that BOAT stands for Bring Over Another
Thousand or Break Out Another Thousand.

BOAT can also mean Boat Operator Accredited Training but that's only
in Canada there they use hockey pucks for fuel.

See if I'm not right - this boat will cost you just about $3,100 by
the time the season is over. :)

yeah, but not every season, right?

"longshot" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:54:41 GMT, "longshot" wrote:

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the
first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it.
he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees,
now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Oy - you will soon learn that BOAT stands for Bring Over Another
Thousand or Break Out Another Thousand.

BOAT can also mean Boat Operator Accredited Training but that's only
in Canada there they use hockey pucks for fuel.

See if I'm not right - this boat will cost you just about $3,100 by
the time the season is over. :)

yeah, but not every season, right?


Boating is not a cheap hobby, especially now that fuel prices are going
through the roof.

When you consider repairs/maintenance, fuel and insurance $3,100 for the
year is actually a possibility. Add to that either the cost of dockage or
fuel/wear and tear for the tow vehicle and may be hitting $4,000.

Now add the possibility of a large repair on the engine or outdrive and you
could be at $6,000-$7,000.

Did I say that boating is not a cheap *hobby*?

On Tue, 15 May 2007 20:09:36 GMT, "longshot" wrote:

See if I'm not right - this boat will cost you just about $3,100 by
the time the season is over. :)

yeah, but not every season, right?

We'll see.

I wish I could get my costs that low.

On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:54:41 GMT, "longshot" wrote:


got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Don't let all of these guys get you all bummed out. Sure, "a boat is a
hole in the water into which you throw money" and you will have to a)
spend some money on maintenance every year and b) learn to do some of
that maintenance yourself, but check out the price on a similar new
boat ;-(

Accept that a few things will come up each year. Try to be proactive
in identifying where the weaknesses are and then fix those that
require fixing. Then enjoy the boat. If you are thinking that you will
get to just put in gas though, you are in for a rude awakening...

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:54:41 GMT, "longshot" wrote:


got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first
time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic
says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a
price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Don't let all of these guys get you all bummed out. Sure, "a boat is a
hole in the water into which you throw money" and you will have to a)
spend some money on maintenance every year and b) learn to do some of
that maintenance yourself, but check out the price on a similar new
boat ;-(

Accept that a few things will come up each year. Try to be proactive
in identifying where the weaknesses are and then fix those that
require fixing. Then enjoy the boat. If you are thinking that you will
get to just put in gas though, you are in for a rude awakening...


I wish I had read all the advice given in this thread *before* I purchased
my first boat many, many years back. I did not have the resources available
on the internet back then though.

The first year of operation can be an eye opener for a first time boater,
especially if not doing his/her homework. No use in throwing the dirt
under the carpet for these newbies..........it is best to tell it like it
is. ;-)

"longshot" wrote in message
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got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first time
last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic says
the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a price of
300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!






I have an 85 Bayliner 19' CC, and the best investment I could have made was
the Volvo Penta repair manual. I replaced my own outdrive bellows last year
for the cost of the bellows on ebay... have converted to electronic
ignition, changed belts and plug wires, rebuilt carburetor,
winterized/dewinterized 3 seasons, installed new impeller every 2 years,
changed my own oil yearly, etc, etc, etc. If not for these things, this
puppy would easily cost big bucks every year in bull**** maintenance.

The marine repair places have a racket going, and they know it. $800 to
replace the outdrive boot? It took me 90 minutes, and that included a
thorough inspection of the u-joints and measuring/adjusting/greasing minor
stuff like the locking pawl. I think the boot was about 50 bucks.

Buy the manual, get out your tools, and get to know your boat. Tell your
mechanic to go jump in the lake.

On May 16, 12:25 am, "Steven Vaughan" wrote:
"longshot" wrote in message

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got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first time
last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic says
the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a price of
300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

I have an 85 Bayliner 19' CC, and the best investment I could have made was
the Volvo Penta repair manual. I replaced my own outdrive bellows last year
for the cost of the bellows on ebay... have converted to electronic
ignition, changed belts and plug wires, rebuilt carburetor,
winterized/dewinterized 3 seasons, installed new impeller every 2 years,
changed my own oil yearly, etc, etc, etc. If not for these things, this
puppy would easily cost big bucks every year in bull**** maintenance.

The marine repair places have a racket going, and they know it. $800 to
replace the outdrive boot? It took me 90 minutes, and that included a
thorough inspection of the u-joints and measuring/adjusting/greasing minor
stuff like the locking pawl. I think the boot was about 50 bucks.

Buy the manual, get out your tools, and get to know your boat. Tell your
mechanic to go jump in the lake.

An old boat is only a bargain if you do your own maintenance. That
you paid someone $80 to "dewinterize" it is not a good sign.

"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
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On May 16, 12:25 am, "Steven Vaughan" wrote:
"longshot" wrote in message

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got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first
time
last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic
says
the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a price
of
300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

I have an 85 Bayliner 19' CC, and the best investment I could have made
was
the Volvo Penta repair manual. I replaced my own outdrive bellows last
year
for the cost of the bellows on ebay... have converted to electronic
ignition, changed belts and plug wires, rebuilt carburetor,
winterized/dewinterized 3 seasons, installed new impeller every 2 years,
changed my own oil yearly, etc, etc, etc. If not for these things, this
puppy would easily cost big bucks every year in bull**** maintenance.

The marine repair places have a racket going, and they know it. $800 to
replace the outdrive boot? It took me 90 minutes, and that included a
thorough inspection of the u-joints and measuring/adjusting/greasing
minor
stuff like the locking pawl. I think the boot was about 50 bucks.

Buy the manual, get out your tools, and get to know your boat. Tell your
mechanic to go jump in the lake.

An old boat is only a bargain if you do your own maintenance. That
you paid someone $80 to "dewinterize" it is not a good sign.


Agree.. everytime some newbie arrives at the newsgroup for my Sandpiper 565
I tell them the same thing. Don't buy the beat up clunker to save a grand
or two.....wait for a later model creampuff to show up and buy that boat.

Speaking of creampuffs, I wonder how Tom is doing with the Halman. ;-)

On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:45 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Speaking of creampuffs, I wonder how Tom is doing with the Halman. ;-)

Dealing with morons is taxing you know?

I'm tired of them - screw 'em.

I'm going to update the Halman wtih water, sink, stove and electric
head, have it professionally painted, fix one little area that needs
some attention and sail it.

I need a new project - that's it.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:45 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Speaking of creampuffs, I wonder how Tom is doing with the Halman. ;-)

Dealing with morons is taxing you know?

I'm tired of them - screw 'em.

I'm going to update the Halman wtih water, sink, stove and electric
head, have it professionally painted, fix one little area that needs
some attention and sail it.

I need a new project - that's it.


And I was going to offer you my Parker for your Ranger rig, if you
tossed in about another $35,000 in cash money.