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Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
I need to move a 25' Wellcraft Sportman and trailer from Cape Cod
toWorcester Mass., about a 110 mile distance. The trailer hasn't moved in two years and the brake lines are clearly rotted out so it's road worthiness is questionable. I thought about a rollback type auto carrier but the longest bed that anyone had was 21'. The distance from the tongue to the rear trailer wheel is over 23'. Any other ideas? Steve P. |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
"Steve P" wrote in message ... I need to move a 25' Wellcraft Sportman and trailer from Cape Cod toWorcester Mass., about a 110 mile distance. The trailer hasn't moved in two years and the brake lines are clearly rotted out so it's road worthiness is questionable. I thought about a rollback type auto carrier but the longest bed that anyone had was 21'. The distance from the tongue to the rear trailer wheel is over 23'. Any other ideas? Steve P. Questions: How much does the boat and trailer weigh? What is the maximum height of the boat when sitting on the trailer? How much of the boat extends beyond the rear trailer wheels? I am assuming you want to keep the existing trailer (to rebuild repair?) and want to transport the boat on it. Otherwise, why not invest in a new trailer for it before moving it? Reason I ask for the weight and height, I have a dual axle, 18 or 20 foot (bed) car trailer ... (I'd have to go measure it again to confirm which) It is rated at 7000 lb GVW and has a 10,000 lb electric winch on it (installed by me). The trailer itself is 1700 lbs, so it can legally carry a maximum load of 5300 lbs. There is an additional 5 or so feet of space between the front of the bed and the tongue ball, so I think the boat trailer might just fit on it, but the question is how much of the boat will stick out beyond the end of the car trailer and, of course, the weight. Only problem is ... I no longer have a truck rated to tow 7000 lbs. I used to have a similar sized bobcat trailer that had a 10,000 lb. GVW rating that I bought by mistake, thinking I could use it as a car trailer. Turns out you can't because the axles are located too far back and putting a older, full sized classic car on it resulted in over 2000 lbs on the tongue. Something like it might work if you can rent or borrow one. Eisboch |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
Steve P wrote:
:I need to move a 25' Wellcraft Sportman and trailer from Cape Cod :toWorcester Mass., about a 110 mile distance. The trailer hasn't moved in :two years and the brake lines are clearly rotted out so it's road worthiness :is questionable. I thought about a rollback type auto carrier but the :longest bed that anyone had was 21'. The distance from the tongue to the :rear trailer wheel is over 23'. :Any other ideas? Fix it where it's at? There are carriers with at least 28' long decks; they're used for industrial equipment more than for automobiles. You may be looking at the wrong sorts of places. David |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
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How much does the boat and trailer weigh? What is the maximum height of the boat when sitting on the trailer? How much of the boat extends beyond the rear trailer wheels? I am assuming you want to keep the existing trailer (to rebuild repair?) and want to transport the boat on it. Otherwise, why not invest in a new trailer for it before moving it? Reason I ask for the weight and height, I have a dual axle, 18 or 20 foot (bed) car trailer ... (I'd have to go measure it again to confirm which) It is rated at 7000 lb GVW and has a 10,000 lb electric winch on it (installed by me). The trailer itself is 1700 lbs, so it can legally carry a maximum load of 5300 lbs. There is an additional 5 or so feet of space between the front of the bed and the tongue ball, so I think the boat trailer might just fit on it, but the question is how much of the boat will stick out beyond the end of the car trailer and, of course, the weight. Only problem is ... I no longer have a truck rated to tow 7000 lbs. I used to have a similar sized bobcat trailer that had a 10,000 lb. GVW rating that I bought by mistake, thinking I could use it as a car trailer. Turns out you can't because the axles are located too far back and putting a older, full sized classic car on it resulted in over 2000 lbs on the tongue. Something like it might work if you can rent or borrow one. Eisboch "RCE" wrote in message m... Questions: How much does the boat and trailer weigh? What is the maximum height of the boat when sitting on the trailer? How much of the boat extends beyond the rear trailer wheels? I am assuming you want to keep the existing trailer (to rebuild repair?) and want to transport the boat on it. Otherwise, why not invest in a new trailer for it before moving it? Reason I ask for the weight and height, I have a dual axle, 18 or 20 foot (bed) car trailer ... (I'd have to go measure it again to confirm which) It is rated at 7000 lb GVW and has a 10,000 lb electric winch on it (installed by me). The trailer itself is 1700 lbs, so it can legally carry a maximum load of 5300 lbs. There is an additional 5 or so feet of space between the front of the bed and the tongue ball, so I think the boat trailer might just fit on it, but the question is how much of the boat will stick out beyond the end of the car trailer and, of course, the weight. Only problem is ... I no longer have a truck rated to tow 7000 lbs. I used to have a similar sized bobcat trailer that had a 10,000 lb. GVW rating that I bought by mistake, thinking I could use it as a car trailer. Turns out you can't because the axles are located too far back and putting a older, full sized classic car on it resulted in over 2000 lbs on the tongue. Something like it might work if you can rent or borrow one. Eisboch Here's a story that might irritate Short Wave a bit. I went to look at the boat and after the seller went through everything that he knew was wrong and right about it, we talked about price. I felt that his initial asking price was in line with what the boat was worth and said so. We then began to discuss the logistics of me getting it home. He was the one that suggested the ramp truck as he had seen too many boats on broken trailers alongside Rt. 3 on his way to the Cape that Saturday morning. As a matter of fact he even offered to deduct the cost of using a ramp truck from our agreed upon price. Nice guy! But me, I'm a savvy enough negotiator to know that I had better get outta the real quick, before he could talk me down any more! So that's were I stand now. Here is a picture of the boat as she sits: http://www.kci2.com/big/3.jpg I'm guessing about 6' beyond the rear wheels to the end of the rig. The seller had no idea of numbers on weight but I found a figure of 3750 lbs. on the Wellcraft site for the O/B model. Whether they include the motor or not I don't know so I figure add another 600 lb. Seller and I speculated about 1000 lbs. for the trailer for an all up weight of 5350. I didn't check on how much gas was in the tank though and things have probably been added over the years that might bring the weight up even higher. I have an '04 1/2-Ton Suburban which can pull it but I'm worried about a bearing or tire giving out on the highway, as well as stopping without the trailer brakes working. Don't even mention the likelyhood of a ticket for the defective equipment if I wind up pulling over to the side while on the Interstate. Thanks You RCE |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
Fix it where it's at? There are carriers with at least 28' long
decks; they're used for industrial equipment more than for automobiles. You may be looking at the wrong sorts of places. David I pondered fixing it in place but... The seller has it at his summer home. I'm guessing from his asking price that he just wants to make it disappear so I don't want to turn his front yard into a something that will detract from his view of Vineyard Sound. Do those 28' jobs have tiliting beds for roll-on/roll-off? What would I look under to find someone with euipment like that? Thanks |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
Steve P wrote:
I need to move a 25' Wellcraft Sportman and trailer from Cape Cod toWorcester Mass., about a 110 mile distance. The trailer hasn't moved in two years and the brake lines are clearly rotted out so it's road worthiness is questionable. I thought about a rollback type auto carrier but the longest bed that anyone had was 21'. The distance from the tongue to the rear trailer wheel is over 23'. Any other ideas? Steve P. How about hiring a marine transport trucker to remove the boat from the current trailer and haul it on their own trailer to Worcester? Once there they could put the boat on blocks, or even launch it wherever you'll be using it. Meanwhile, without the boat on it you can better attend to the needs/repairs of the trailer, possibly even hauling the empty trailer back to Worcester as is. Just a thought. Larry Weiss "...Ever After!" |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
On Sun, 13 May 2007 22:41:47 -0400, "Steve P"
wrote: Any other ideas? If you want to borrow Dick's trailer (which I'm pretty sure would work fine for this), I'd be more than willing to tow it for you with the F-250. Just buy the fuel - no sweat. |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
I'd pull the wheels and grease the bearing and them tow it home. Drive
assuming it has no brakes. Do it on a Sunday evening. 110 miles is not very far. "Steve P" wrote in message ... Questions: How much does the boat and trailer weigh? What is the maximum height of the boat when sitting on the trailer? How much of the boat extends beyond the rear trailer wheels? I am assuming you want to keep the existing trailer (to rebuild repair?) and want to transport the boat on it. Otherwise, why not invest in a new trailer for it before moving it? Reason I ask for the weight and height, I have a dual axle, 18 or 20 foot (bed) car trailer ... (I'd have to go measure it again to confirm which) It is rated at 7000 lb GVW and has a 10,000 lb electric winch on it (installed by me). The trailer itself is 1700 lbs, so it can legally carry a maximum load of 5300 lbs. There is an additional 5 or so feet of space between the front of the bed and the tongue ball, so I think the boat trailer might just fit on it, but the question is how much of the boat will stick out beyond the end of the car trailer and, of course, the weight. Only problem is ... I no longer have a truck rated to tow 7000 lbs. I used to have a similar sized bobcat trailer that had a 10,000 lb. GVW rating that I bought by mistake, thinking I could use it as a car trailer. Turns out you can't because the axles are located too far back and putting a older, full sized classic car on it resulted in over 2000 lbs on the tongue. Something like it might work if you can rent or borrow one. Eisboch "RCE" wrote in message m... Questions: How much does the boat and trailer weigh? What is the maximum height of the boat when sitting on the trailer? How much of the boat extends beyond the rear trailer wheels? I am assuming you want to keep the existing trailer (to rebuild repair?) and want to transport the boat on it. Otherwise, why not invest in a new trailer for it before moving it? Reason I ask for the weight and height, I have a dual axle, 18 or 20 foot (bed) car trailer ... (I'd have to go measure it again to confirm which) It is rated at 7000 lb GVW and has a 10,000 lb electric winch on it (installed by me). The trailer itself is 1700 lbs, so it can legally carry a maximum load of 5300 lbs. There is an additional 5 or so feet of space between the front of the bed and the tongue ball, so I think the boat trailer might just fit on it, but the question is how much of the boat will stick out beyond the end of the car trailer and, of course, the weight. Only problem is ... I no longer have a truck rated to tow 7000 lbs. I used to have a similar sized bobcat trailer that had a 10,000 lb. GVW rating that I bought by mistake, thinking I could use it as a car trailer. Turns out you can't because the axles are located too far back and putting a older, full sized classic car on it resulted in over 2000 lbs on the tongue. Something like it might work if you can rent or borrow one. Eisboch Here's a story that might irritate Short Wave a bit. I went to look at the boat and after the seller went through everything that he knew was wrong and right about it, we talked about price. I felt that his initial asking price was in line with what the boat was worth and said so. We then began to discuss the logistics of me getting it home. He was the one that suggested the ramp truck as he had seen too many boats on broken trailers alongside Rt. 3 on his way to the Cape that Saturday morning. As a matter of fact he even offered to deduct the cost of using a ramp truck from our agreed upon price. Nice guy! But me, I'm a savvy enough negotiator to know that I had better get outta the real quick, before he could talk me down any more! So that's were I stand now. Here is a picture of the boat as she sits: http://www.kci2.com/big/3.jpg I'm guessing about 6' beyond the rear wheels to the end of the rig. The seller had no idea of numbers on weight but I found a figure of 3750 lbs. on the Wellcraft site for the O/B model. Whether they include the motor or not I don't know so I figure add another 600 lb. Seller and I speculated about 1000 lbs. for the trailer for an all up weight of 5350. I didn't check on how much gas was in the tank though and things have probably been added over the years that might bring the weight up even higher. I have an '04 1/2-Ton Suburban which can pull it but I'm worried about a bearing or tire giving out on the highway, as well as stopping without the trailer brakes working. Don't even mention the likelyhood of a ticket for the defective equipment if I wind up pulling over to the side while on the Interstate. Thanks You RCE |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
The trailer doesnt look too bad. Ok so the brakes dont work.
Dont drive it in the rain!!! I would just look at the tires. Are they all cracked up?? If not their good to go. From there I would grease the bearings and make sure those lights work on that trailer. If not wire it up right and tow it home at night. 110 miles isn't too bad. You'd be better off saving the money and applying it to trailer repairs rather than having someone tow it for you. 2 or 3 hours worth of work would be all it should need. Tom On May 14, 12:23 am, "Steve P" wrote: Questions: How much does the boat and trailer weigh? What is the maximum height of the boat when sitting on the trailer? How much of the boat extends beyond the rear trailer wheels? I am assuming you want to keep the existing trailer (to rebuild repair?) and want to transport the boat on it. Otherwise, why not invest in a new trailer for it before moving it? Reason I ask for the weight and height, I have a dual axle, 18 or 20 foot (bed) car trailer ... (I'd have to go measure it again to confirm which) It is rated at 7000 lb GVW and has a 10,000 lb electric winch on it (installed by me). The trailer itself is 1700 lbs, so it can legally carry a maximum load of 5300 lbs. There is an additional 5 or so feet of space between the front of the bed and the tongue ball, so I think the boat trailer might just fit on it, but the question is how much of the boat will stick out beyond the end of the car trailer and, of course, the weight. Only problem is ... I no longer have a truck rated to tow 7000 lbs. I used to have a similar sized bobcat trailer that had a 10,000 lb. GVW rating that I bought by mistake, thinking I could use it as a car trailer. Turns out you can't because the axles are located too far back and putting a older, full sized classic car on it resulted in over 2000 lbs on the tongue. Something like it might work if you can rent or borrow one. Eisboch "RCE" wrote in message m... Questions: How much does the boat and trailer weigh? What is the maximum height of the boat when sitting on the trailer? How much of the boat extends beyond the rear trailer wheels? I am assuming you want to keep the existing trailer (to rebuild repair?) and want to transport the boat on it. Otherwise, why not invest in a new trailer for it before moving it? Reason I ask for the weight and height, I have a dual axle, 18 or 20 foot (bed) car trailer ... (I'd have to go measure it again to confirm which) It is rated at 7000 lb GVW and has a 10,000 lb electric winch on it (installed by me). The trailer itself is 1700 lbs, so it can legally carry a maximum load of 5300 lbs. There is an additional 5 or so feet of space between the front of the bed and the tongue ball, so I think the boat trailer might just fit on it, but the question is how much of the boat will stick out beyond the end of the car trailer and, of course, the weight. Only problem is ... I no longer have a truck rated to tow 7000 lbs. I used to have a similar sized bobcat trailer that had a 10,000 lb. GVW rating that I bought by mistake, thinking I could use it as a car trailer. Turns out you can't because the axles are located too far back and putting a older, full sized classic car on it resulted in over 2000 lbs on the tongue. Something like it might work if you can rent or borrow one. Eisboch Here's a story that might irritate Short Wave a bit. I went to look at the boat and after the seller went through everything that he knew was wrong and right about it, we talked about price. I felt that his initial asking price was in line with what the boat was worth and said so. We then began to discuss the logistics of me getting it home. He was the one that suggested the ramp truck as he had seen too many boats on broken trailers alongside Rt. 3 on his way to the Cape that Saturday morning. As a matter of fact he even offered to deduct the cost of using a ramp truck from our agreed upon price. Nice guy! But me, I'm a savvy enough negotiator to know that I had better get outta the real quick, before he could talk me down any more! So that's were I stand now. Here is a picture of the boat as she sits: http://www.kci2.com/big/3.jpg I'm guessing about 6' beyond the rear wheels to the end of the rig. The seller had no idea of numbers on weight but I found a figure of 3750 lbs. on the Wellcraft site for the O/B model. Whether they include the motor or not I don't know so I figure add another 600 lb. Seller and I speculated about 1000 lbs. for the trailer for an all up weight of 5350. I didn't check on how much gas was in the tank though and things have probably been added over the years that might bring the weight up even higher. I have an '04 1/2-Ton Suburban which can pull it but I'm worried about a bearing or tire giving out on the highway, as well as stopping without the trailer brakes working. Don't even mention the likelyhood of a ticket for the defective equipment if I wind up pulling over to the side while on the Interstate. Thanks You RCE- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
Steve P wrote:
Questions: How much does the boat and trailer weigh? What is the maximum height of the boat when sitting on the trailer? How much of the boat extends beyond the rear trailer wheels? I am assuming you want to keep the existing trailer (to rebuild repair?) and want to transport the boat on it. Otherwise, why not invest in a new trailer for it before moving it? Reason I ask for the weight and height, I have a dual axle, 18 or 20 foot (bed) car trailer ... (I'd have to go measure it again to confirm which) It is rated at 7000 lb GVW and has a 10,000 lb electric winch on it (installed by me). The trailer itself is 1700 lbs, so it can legally carry a maximum load of 5300 lbs. There is an additional 5 or so feet of space between the front of the bed and the tongue ball, so I think the boat trailer might just fit on it, but the question is how much of the boat will stick out beyond the end of the car trailer and, of course, the weight. Only problem is ... I no longer have a truck rated to tow 7000 lbs. I used to have a similar sized bobcat trailer that had a 10,000 lb. GVW rating that I bought by mistake, thinking I could use it as a car trailer. Turns out you can't because the axles are located too far back and putting a older, full sized classic car on it resulted in over 2000 lbs on the tongue. Something like it might work if you can rent or borrow one. Eisboch "RCE" wrote in message m... Questions: How much does the boat and trailer weigh? What is the maximum height of the boat when sitting on the trailer? How much of the boat extends beyond the rear trailer wheels? I am assuming you want to keep the existing trailer (to rebuild repair?) and want to transport the boat on it. Otherwise, why not invest in a new trailer for it before moving it? Reason I ask for the weight and height, I have a dual axle, 18 or 20 foot (bed) car trailer ... (I'd have to go measure it again to confirm which) It is rated at 7000 lb GVW and has a 10,000 lb electric winch on it (installed by me). The trailer itself is 1700 lbs, so it can legally carry a maximum load of 5300 lbs. There is an additional 5 or so feet of space between the front of the bed and the tongue ball, so I think the boat trailer might just fit on it, but the question is how much of the boat will stick out beyond the end of the car trailer and, of course, the weight. Only problem is ... I no longer have a truck rated to tow 7000 lbs. I used to have a similar sized bobcat trailer that had a 10,000 lb. GVW rating that I bought by mistake, thinking I could use it as a car trailer. Turns out you can't because the axles are located too far back and putting a older, full sized classic car on it resulted in over 2000 lbs on the tongue. Something like it might work if you can rent or borrow one. Eisboch Here's a story that might irritate Short Wave a bit. I went to look at the boat and after the seller went through everything that he knew was wrong and right about it, we talked about price. I felt that his initial asking price was in line with what the boat was worth and said so. We then began to discuss the logistics of me getting it home. He was the one that suggested the ramp truck as he had seen too many boats on broken trailers alongside Rt. 3 on his way to the Cape that Saturday morning. As a matter of fact he even offered to deduct the cost of using a ramp truck from our agreed upon price. Nice guy! But me, I'm a savvy enough negotiator to know that I had better get outta the real quick, before he could talk me down any more! So that's were I stand now. Here is a picture of the boat as she sits: http://www.kci2.com/big/3.jpg I'm guessing about 6' beyond the rear wheels to the end of the rig. The seller had no idea of numbers on weight but I found a figure of 3750 lbs. on the Wellcraft site for the O/B model. Whether they include the motor or not I don't know so I figure add another 600 lb. Seller and I speculated about 1000 lbs. for the trailer for an all up weight of 5350. I didn't check on how much gas was in the tank though and things have probably been added over the years that might bring the weight up even higher. I have an '04 1/2-Ton Suburban which can pull it but I'm worried about a bearing or tire giving out on the highway, as well as stopping without the trailer brakes working. Don't even mention the likelyhood of a ticket for the defective equipment if I wind up pulling over to the side while on the Interstate. Thanks You RCE I've paid for forklifts to be shipped similar distances and the rate was maybe $500.00. The forklifts weigh more than the boat so that isn't a problem. They use low trailers with hydraulic ramps on the back and built-in winches. The only concern might be the width. I would try heavy equipment haulers in your area. Shop around and if you have time, you might get a better rate if they can work out a back haul. Dan |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
Steve P wrote:
I need to move a 25' Wellcraft Sportman and trailer from Cape Cod toWorcester Mass., about a 110 mile distance. The trailer hasn't moved in two years and the brake lines are clearly rotted out so it's road worthiness is questionable. I thought about a rollback type auto carrier but the longest bed that anyone had was 21'. The distance from the tongue to the rear trailer wheel is over 23'. Any other ideas? Steve P. I tend to agree with what has been posted. For the cost of hiring some one to transport it, you probably could have the trailer inspected and the brakes replaced. -- Keith Nuttle 3110 Marquette Court Indianapolis, IN 46268 317-802-0699 |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote If you want to borrow Dick's trailer (which I'm pretty sure would work fine for this), I'd be more than willing to tow it for you with the F-250. Just buy the fuel - no sweat. Incredibly generous of both Richard and yourself, Tom. I really appreciate the offer but something else fell into place. It would have been a blast to meet both of you though! I made a calls to various haulers and got mostly answering machines without any callbacks. The few people I spoke with declined; either they didn't have the right equipment or they were looking to book bigger ticket jobs. I was a little apprehensive about borrowing Richards trailer anyway, more out of fear of damaging it than anything else. I was guessing the boat/trailer rig is flirting with 5K lbs., but I wasn't sure how much fuel it had in it or how much all the incidentals that are in it would weigh. I could see it possibly going over 6K. Then what Richard said about the weight distribution being wrong on the other trailer hit me... we'll a car trailer is likely designed with the intent of about 60% of the load being transmitted through the front tires and the rest on the rear. With the boat on the tandem trailer around 85 to 90% of the weight is going to be transmitted through the trailer wheels, which would be at the very rear of the deck. That could create a bending moment that the trailer wasn't designed to handle. I took another ride to see the boat and trailer again this afternoon. The hydraulic coupler/actuator is rated at 6000 lbs. so I was in the ball park. I popped a deck plate and found the fuel tank spec plate: 125 gallon capacity. So that could possibly mean 700-800 lbs. of fuel. The tires are cracked but I've seen worse in regular use without giving problems. If the lighting didn't work I'd just hang new tail lights and go. The brake backing plates and drums, however, are a ball 'O rust. The potential for a part being frozen and/or dragging is great. Even if the bearings are good it's likely that the brakes are going to generate some heat that would be impossible to differentiate from a hot wheel bearing. So without some repairs I wouldn't want to take a chance. I told the seller where I was at try to arrange a transport and he said that he would try somebody that he knows. Turns out that he has an acquaintance that hauls construction equipment and has a 28' tandem axle trailer that will do the job. The cost is being deducted out of the sale price so I'm not out anything on paper. I have to think that the seller has a reason for wanting to handle it this way and I'll honor his wishes. If I was in his position I think I'd be afraid that some Yahoo was going to set up shop in my front yard for a week while he tries to bang apart rusted trailer parts. Nah, just make the problem disappear. So Thanks again guys. And Tom, if you ever need help getting the Halman back on the trailer let me know, I'm practically right down the street. Plus, I'm going to need help getting the Wellcraft off at some point. Steve P. |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
On Tue, 15 May 2007 00:26:39 -0400, "Steve P"
wrote: So Thanks again guys. And Tom, if you ever need help getting the Halman back on the trailer let me know, I'm practically right down the street. Plus, I'm going to need help getting the Wellcraft off at some point. Drop me a line at the above email and I'll give you my phone number. I've become quite an expert at it. :) It's actually easier than you think. The problem with the Halman trailer is that it's not built for doing it without a sling and lift so it's six inches at a time. Grust - groan. :) |
Any suggestions on how to transport a boat and trailer?
I wonder how much it would cost to transport a boat and trailer via rail
from Alabama to Central Florida...or by some other means "Dan" wrote in message acolo.com... Larry Weiss wrote: How about hiring a marine transport trucker to remove the boat from the current trailer and haul it on their own trailer to Worcester? Once there they could put the boat on blocks, or even launch it wherever you'll be using it. Meanwhile, without the boat on it you can better attend to the needs/repairs of the trailer, possibly even hauling the empty trailer back to Worcester as is. Just a thought. Larry Weiss "...Ever After!" All of the Midwest! With extended cruising via trailer. I mean, I'd not want to know that was Thanks, Jim. |
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