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On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:09:46 -0400,
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I remain skeptical of data that suggests that solar wind has the
effect of blowing away the protection of cloud cover, which then
causes heating of the earth.

What creates clouds Gene? How are the dynamics of weather given their
energy?

I mean - come on - you're a smart guy - hell of a lot smarter than
most of the folks who hang out here.

Rather than being some gloom and doom prognosticator, I'd just like to
keep an open mind that man might (and I think does) have an impact on
global warming.

There is a difference of opinon of just how much of an impact. Is
there a pollution problem? Of course. Bad air is bad air and most of
it comes from industrial countries and of course cars. Can't argue
that.

But does that effect/affect/impact global warming? Is there a
correlation between pollution and global warming? Hell, there really
isn't any correlation between carbon dioxide and global warming.

On the other hand, there is direct observational evidence that the Sun
may be entering a very active radiation cycle - Venus is hotter, Mars
is hotter and I just saw something the other day about the
luminessence of Jupiter and Saturn increasing.

We're a hell of a lot closer to the Sun than those planets (except for
Venus) and if they are warming/getting brighter and apprently warmer,
don't you think that it could happen here? Only the effect is
mitigated by a rather thick atmosphere, orbital mechanics and Earth's
somewhat odd wobble and eccentric orbit?

Those that say than man "just couldn't" have any effect are trying to
form a negative proof in lieu of scientific method and must, therefore,
have some other agenda (political, most likely) rather than science or
logic.

Not true at all. In fact, it's just the opposite. The "truth" is
based on incomplete science, deliberate misrepresentation, ignoring
historical and scientific data to the contrary and doing exactly what
any propoganda minister would do - demonize those who do not accept
their "science" as the truth.

As to logic, explain to me exactly how global warming temperature is
obtained - exactly how do you develop a "global" temperature average?

Explain to me how the Koyoto Treaty isn't going to come close to even
their own goals and why it's a completel failure, but is touted as
being the only way the planet can be saved.

If you believe, you believe. However, putting the label of illogic and
agenda's on it is exactly what the proponents want - because it then
becomes a political issue which is usually illogical and based
strictly on who has the most power to get what they want.

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