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On May 15, 8:01 am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote: On May 15, 12:58 am, jps wrote: In article .com, says... On May 14, 5:33 pm, jps wrote: Still have the Tolly, or are you "between" boats? Between. Would invest but, unless it's a 8 kt. single screw with oar locks, couldn't bear the thought of the fuel costs. I've been a twin- screw guy my whole life. I like having a set of props. It scares me to fill up the car these days. I do miss floating around in a pretty big way. I need to haul the whaler down to the lake and have run around. Perhaps my spirits will be "buoyed"? ![]() jps- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Charter. It's too bad the Cheney-Bush National Energy Policy's sole goal was to enrich the oil companiies and refiners. Isn't it interesting that once again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down for maintenance? What a coincidence.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, don't buy the baloney. If the price of crude oil dropped to $10 a bbl and if we had excess refinery capacity we would still see fuel prices about as high as they are. Nobody sells a product for less than the market has demonstrated a willingness to pay. Like the oil company apologists keep repeating, it's a matter of supply and demand. They will reluctantly supply us with as much as we want as long as we pay whatever they demand. Once again this summer we'll eclipse all previous price records as BIGOIL continues to discover whether there's a price point beyond which we won't buy refined products. So far, they haven't found it. And if we drilled ANWR until it looked like swiss cheese, we would still be paying about the same for gas and diesel but BIGOIL would have an additional supply of raw material. jps' lament that he would buy a boat if he could tolerate the price of fuel is being repeated about 100,000 times across the country this year. Those of us who enjoy motorized recreation (boats, RV's, light planes, etc) will be gob-smacked with some major paradigm shifts in the next 2-3 years. |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 8:01 am, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On May 15, 12:58 am, jps wrote: In article .com, says... On May 14, 5:33 pm, jps wrote: Still have the Tolly, or are you "between" boats? Between. Would invest but, unless it's a 8 kt. single screw with oar locks, couldn't bear the thought of the fuel costs. I've been a twin- screw guy my whole life. I like having a set of props. It scares me to fill up the car these days. I do miss floating around in a pretty big way. I need to haul the whaler down to the lake and have run around. Perhaps my spirits will be "buoyed"? ![]() jps- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Charter. It's too bad the Cheney-Bush National Energy Policy's sole goal was to enrich the oil companiies and refiners. Isn't it interesting that once again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down for maintenance? What a coincidence.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, don't buy the baloney. If the price of crude oil dropped to $10 a bbl and if we had excess refinery capacity we would still see fuel prices about as high as they are. Nobody sells a product for less than the market has demonstrated a willingness to pay. Like the oil company apologists keep repeating, it's a matter of supply and demand. They will reluctantly supply us with as much as we want as long as we pay whatever they demand. Once again this summer we'll eclipse all previous price records as BIGOIL continues to discover whether there's a price point beyond which we won't buy refined products. So far, they haven't found it. And if we drilled ANWR until it looked like swiss cheese, we would still be paying about the same for gas and diesel but BIGOIL would have an additional supply of raw material. jps' lament that he would buy a boat if he could tolerate the price of fuel is being repeated about 100,000 times across the country this year. Those of us who enjoy motorized recreation (boats, RV's, light planes, etc) will be gob-smacked with some major paradigm shifts in the next 2-3 years. As I have stated before, the oil companies need to have citizen oversight on their financial operations, among other controls. |
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 12:17:21 -0400, HK wrote:
As I have stated before, the oil companies need to have citizen oversight on their financial operations, among other controls. Excellent. I will volunteer to provide that oversight and ensure that fuel efficient trawler owners have adequate supplies and reasonable prices. Parker owners will pay a little more. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 12:17:21 -0400, HK wrote: As I have stated before, the oil companies need to have citizen oversight on their financial operations, among other controls. Excellent. I will volunteer to provide that oversight and ensure that fuel efficient trawler owners have adequate supplies and reasonable prices. Parker owners will pay a little more. Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars. As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars. As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything. I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund homeless meals. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars. As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything. I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund homeless meals. Eisboch Sounds like a winner. And those with empty horse barns should be housing the homeless, and loaning them their vehicles so they can find work. Actually, it's not a full kitchen. There's no cooktop or baking oven. :} |
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"HK" wrote in message news ![]() Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars. As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything. I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund homeless meals. Eisboch Sounds like a winner. And those with empty horse barns should be housing the homeless, and loaning them their vehicles so they can find work. Actually, it's not a full kitchen. There's no cooktop or baking oven. :} Live in a horsebarn? I think that's an opportunity even the homeless would say, "No thanks" to. Eisboch |
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:28:17 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars. As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything. I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund homeless meals. Personally, I think all people who have two kitchens should be taxed as you suggest plus if they own a Parker, an additional 50% usage tax should be added just because. :) |
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 22:40:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:28:17 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars. As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything. I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund homeless meals. Personally, I think all people who have two kitchens should be taxed as you suggest plus if they own a Parker, an additional 50% usage tax should be added just because. :) Does a usage tax do any good if there's no *usage*? |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:28:17 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars. As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything. I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund homeless meals. Personally, I think all people who have two kitchens should be taxed as you suggest plus if they own a Parker, an additional 50% usage tax should be added just because. :) I actually may try to sell the Parker this year, instead of just talking about it. |
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