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Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat.
Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Yee Haw! Be careful out there. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ 500 hp on a 23' fishing boat? Lunacy. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Not on it, but in it. It's a trout stream day. If any of you can get here by around 2:00 with a video camera, you can probably win yourself a bunch of money from the America's Funniest Home Videos TV show. This is my annual "how does this fly rod work again?" day. The fish are helpful. The stream's got loads of trout, but they send their friends, the pike, to mess with fishermen. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Not on it, but in it. It's a trout stream day. If any of you can get here by around 2:00 with a video camera, you can probably win yourself a bunch of money from the America's Funniest Home Videos TV show. This is my annual "how does this fly rod work again?" day. The fish are helpful. The stream's got loads of trout, but they send their friends, the pike, to mess with fishermen. You wearing thermal waders? I have an exciting day: my wife wants to buy a "fountain" for the garden, to take advantage of the fact that I have an electrician coming next week to do some wiring for my kitchenette. I think she thinks I am more than willing to dig the 50' long, two foot deep trench it will take to bury the wire. Right. First thing, I'll call the rental store for a Ditch Witch. Outdoor "house voltage" wiring is a mystery to me. Can it be tapped off an existing outdoor plug, or will it have to go to the panel? I will get to the Greek festival this weekend. Dammit. |
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"HK" wrote in message
... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Not on it, but in it. It's a trout stream day. If any of you can get here by around 2:00 with a video camera, you can probably win yourself a bunch of money from the America's Funniest Home Videos TV show. This is my annual "how does this fly rod work again?" day. The fish are helpful. The stream's got loads of trout, but they send their friends, the pike, to mess with fishermen. You wearing thermal waders? No - thermal underwear under sweat pants, and heavy socks. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... I have an exciting day: my wife wants to buy a "fountain" for the garden, to take advantage of the fact that I have an electrician coming next week to do some wiring for my kitchenette. I think she thinks I am more than willing to dig the 50' long, two foot deep trench it will take to bury the wire. Right. First thing, I'll call the rental store for a Ditch Witch. Outdoor "house voltage" wiring is a mystery to me. Can it be tapped off an existing outdoor plug, or will it have to go to the panel? I will get to the Greek festival this weekend. Dammit. Sorta depends on how much power the fountain pump requires. Is it 120v or 220v? Around here, the "ditch" is supposed to be 18" deep minimum. If it's a light duty, 120v pump only drawing a few amps, I'd use direct burial wire, #10 (due to the length) and tie it through an outdoor switch or timer to a GFI protected outlet. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... Sorta depends on how much power the fountain pump requires. Is it 120v or 220v? Around here, the "ditch" is supposed to be 18" deep minimum. If it's a light duty, 120v pump only drawing a few amps, I'd use direct burial wire, #10 (due to the length) and tie it through an outdoor switch or timer to a GFI protected outlet. Eisboch BTW .... all above is assuming the existing outlet is on a 15 amp breaker. Eisboch (not an electrician) |
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"HK" wrote in message ... I have an exciting day: my wife wants to buy a "fountain" for the garden, to take advantage of the fact that I have an electrician coming next week to do some wiring for my kitchenette. I think she thinks I am more than willing to dig the 50' long, two foot deep trench it will take to bury the wire. Right. First thing, I'll call the rental store for a Ditch Witch. Outdoor "house voltage" wiring is a mystery to me. Can it be tapped off an existing outdoor plug, or will it have to go to the panel? I will get to the Greek festival this weekend. Dammit. Sorta depends on how much power the fountain pump requires. Is it 120v or 220v? Around here, the "ditch" is supposed to be 18" deep minimum. If it's a light duty, 120v pump only drawing a few amps, I'd use direct burial wire, #10 (due to the length) and tie it through an outdoor switch or timer to a GFI protected outlet. Eisboch Ahh...direct burial wire...that's what she can use to tie up my casket after I dig the ditch! 18" sure ought to work here, since our freeze is a lot less than your freeze. I have an exterior GFI outlet...is it safe to assume an electrician can wire an outdoor timer to it? As you might guess, I don't "do" electricity. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I have an exciting day: my wife wants to buy a "fountain" for the garden, to take advantage of the fact that I have an electrician coming next week to do some wiring for my kitchenette. I think she thinks I am more than willing to dig the 50' long, two foot deep trench it will take to bury the wire. Right. First thing, I'll call the rental store for a Ditch Witch. Outdoor "house voltage" wiring is a mystery to me. Can it be tapped off an existing outdoor plug, or will it have to go to the panel? I will get to the Greek festival this weekend. Dammit. Sorta depends on how much power the fountain pump requires. Is it 120v or 220v? Around here, the "ditch" is supposed to be 18" deep minimum. If it's a light duty, 120v pump only drawing a few amps, I'd use direct burial wire, #10 (due to the length) and tie it through an outdoor switch or timer to a GFI protected outlet. Eisboch Ahh...direct burial wire...that's what she can use to tie up my casket after I dig the ditch! 18" sure ought to work here, since our freeze is a lot less than your freeze. I have an exterior GFI outlet...is it safe to assume an electrician can wire an outdoor timer to it? As you might guess, I don't "do" electricity. Yes. But then again, that's me. The electrician might have other thoughts or be more knowledgeable regarding your local codes. I have a good understanding of electrical issues, but don't always follow "code" precisely. Eisboch |
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"HK" wrote in message ... 18" sure ought to work here, since our freeze is a lot less than your freeze. Nothing to do with freeze depths. It's to avoid driving a horseshoe stake into the wire. Eisboch |
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Code varys wildly with locality as to the accepted depth so find out before
you dig. Many allow a shallower depth if you put wire in that gray plastic conduit. "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... 18" sure ought to work here, since our freeze is a lot less than your freeze. Nothing to do with freeze depths. It's to avoid driving a horseshoe stake into the wire. Eisboch |
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If it's a light duty, 120v pump only drawing a few amps, I'd use direct burial wire, #10 (due to the length) and tie it through an outdoor switch or timer to a GFI protected outlet. Eisboch Ahh...direct burial wire...that's what she can use to tie up my casket after I dig the ditch! 18" sure ought to work here, since our freeze is a lot less than your freeze. I have an exterior GFI outlet...is it safe to assume an electrician can wire an outdoor timer to it? As you might guess, I don't "do" electricity. Either direct burial or wire in conduit will work here in Missouri, but must be 36" deep. This is a safety thing, since our freeze level rarely approaches 12". CATV= 18" min (6" house drop) Phone & Gas = 24" min (12" house drop phone, 24" gas) Water= 36" min (always 36") Power= 36" min (always 36", risers in conduit) I would follow code. There's always a possibility that a shallow A/C wire could come back to bite you if someone else digs into it. |
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On Sat, 5 May 2007 09:00:25 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I have an exciting day: my wife wants to buy a "fountain" for the garden, to take advantage of the fact that I have an electrician coming next week to do some wiring for my kitchenette. I think she thinks I am more than willing to dig the 50' long, two foot deep trench it will take to bury the wire. Right. First thing, I'll call the rental store for a Ditch Witch. Outdoor "house voltage" wiring is a mystery to me. Can it be tapped off an existing outdoor plug, or will it have to go to the panel? I will get to the Greek festival this weekend. Dammit. Sorta depends on how much power the fountain pump requires. Is it 120v or 220v? Around here, the "ditch" is supposed to be 18" deep minimum. If it's a light duty, 120v pump only drawing a few amps, I'd use direct burial wire, #10 (due to the length) and tie it through an outdoor switch or timer to a GFI protected outlet. Eisboch one thing... 14 ga can handle 15 amps, and a 50ft run is not far considering how long most cable runs can be in a house. The pump will likely only draw a few amps, so that makes the guage requirement even less of a concern. You'll be more than fine with 14, use 12 if you want. 10 would be WAY overkill unless you're planning to rival the Bellagio. |
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wrote in message ... On Sat, 5 May 2007 09:00:25 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I have an exciting day: my wife wants to buy a "fountain" for the garden, to take advantage of the fact that I have an electrician coming next week to do some wiring for my kitchenette. I think she thinks I am more than willing to dig the 50' long, two foot deep trench it will take to bury the wire. Right. First thing, I'll call the rental store for a Ditch Witch. Outdoor "house voltage" wiring is a mystery to me. Can it be tapped off an existing outdoor plug, or will it have to go to the panel? I will get to the Greek festival this weekend. Dammit. Sorta depends on how much power the fountain pump requires. Is it 120v or 220v? Around here, the "ditch" is supposed to be 18" deep minimum. If it's a light duty, 120v pump only drawing a few amps, I'd use direct burial wire, #10 (due to the length) and tie it through an outdoor switch or timer to a GFI protected outlet. Eisboch Let me put my electrical inspector hat on (fl lic BN2102) Barring a local rule (none in Florida the "NEC" is code, state wide) The NEC 300.5 says direct buiral cable (UF) shall be 24", Rigid non-metalic conduit (the grey stuff) shall be 18" and rigid metal conduit (threaded steel) shall be 6" minimum depth. There is an accomedation for residential, 15 or 20a, 120v, GFCI protected that says it can be 12" and that includes rigid nonmetalic and direct burial cable. Rules change when you go under the driveway or a public street. I agree that unless this is more than a 1/2 HP pump this can share the regular GFCI outside outlet circuit and 14ga should be fine (assuming 15a circuit) Most small fountain pumps are smaller than that. I've learned my lesson having been married for 37 years. That small pump today won't be big enough in a year or two. So, I always run bigger rather than smaller, just in case. g Eisboch |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ 500 hp on a 23' fishing boat? Lunacy. True. More would be better. A little underpowered for some people. |
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On May 5, 6:58 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Not me. This week it's been too rainy, with pop up showers pouring with no real given notice. Plus, I have a bit more prep work to do. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... Sorta depends on how much power the fountain pump requires. Is it 120v or 220v? Around here, the "ditch" is supposed to be 18" deep minimum. If it's a light duty, 120v pump only drawing a few amps, I'd use direct burial wire, #10 (due to the length) and tie it through an outdoor switch or timer to a GFI protected outlet. Eisboch BTW .... all above is assuming the existing outlet is on a 15 amp breaker. Eisboch (not an electrician) Thanks. I'll follow the electrician's directions for the ditch. Took three guys to get the damned fountain in my vehicle, and of course there was only one at this end to get it out. One of the pieces weighed 265 pounds. No handles. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Hope you had a good time. Ours is sitting in my drive with the winter cover off and the batteries charging. Will take it to the marina tomorrow to start working on it. Used our Fuel Perks points (30 gallons max) and filled up my wife's Highlander (16 gallons), put 10 gallons in the boat topping it off and the remaining 4 gallons in a gas can. All for the price of a little over $5. http://www.gianteagle.com/main/artic...der_id=1127873 |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Hope you had a good time. Ours is sitting in my drive with the winter cover off and the batteries charging. Will take it to the marina tomorrow to start working on it. Used our Fuel Perks points (30 gallons max) and filled up my wife's Highlander (16 gallons), put 10 gallons in the boat topping it off and the remaining 4 gallons in a gas can. All for the price of a little over $5. http://www.gianteagle.com/main/artic...der_id=1127873 I paid $2.87 a gallon earlier today in Waldorf, MD, at a WaWa. As the meter ran, I genuflected in the direction of Dicque Cheney. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Hope you had a good time. Ours is sitting in my drive with the winter cover off and the batteries charging. Will take it to the marina tomorrow to start working on it. Used our Fuel Perks points (30 gallons max) and filled up my wife's Highlander (16 gallons), put 10 gallons in the boat topping it off and the remaining 4 gallons in a gas can. All for the price of a little over $5. http://www.gianteagle.com/main/artic...der_id=1127873 I paid $2.87 a gallon earlier today in Waldorf, MD, at a WaWa. As the meter ran, I genuflected in the direction of Dicque Cheney. Street price here today was $3.09/gallon, down from $3.19 yesterday but way up from the $2.65 it was less than a week ago. |
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On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:38:03 -0400, HK wrote:
JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Hope you had a good time. Ours is sitting in my drive with the winter cover off and the batteries charging. Will take it to the marina tomorrow to start working on it. Used our Fuel Perks points (30 gallons max) and filled up my wife's Highlander (16 gallons), put 10 gallons in the boat topping it off and the remaining 4 gallons in a gas can. All for the price of a little over $5. http://www.gianteagle.com/main/artic...der_id=1127873 I paid $2.87 a gallon earlier today in Waldorf, MD, at a WaWa. As the meter ran, I genuflected in the direction of Dicque Cheney. Do you think the price of gas would fall if the Democrats took power? That would sure make boating much cheaper! |
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Around 5/5/2007 4:58 AM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ insert evil laugh Sounds like fun! I spent all day today on the water, first splash of the season. Opening day here in Seattle, donchya know. I don't know how I managed it, but I almost got a sunburn on my face (only exposed skin). :) -- ~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat" "There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame ~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~ |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:38:03 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Hope you had a good time. Ours is sitting in my drive with the winter cover off and the batteries charging. Will take it to the marina tomorrow to start working on it. Used our Fuel Perks points (30 gallons max) and filled up my wife's Highlander (16 gallons), put 10 gallons in the boat topping it off and the remaining 4 gallons in a gas can. All for the price of a little over $5. http://www.gianteagle.com/main/artic...der_id=1127873 I paid $2.87 a gallon earlier today in Waldorf, MD, at a WaWa. As the meter ran, I genuflected in the direction of Dicque Cheney. Do you think the price of gas would fall if the Democrats took power? That would sure make boating much cheaper! The Democrats already took control of Congress on January 4th. Average price of regular grade gas on January 8th: $2.258 Average price of regular grade gas on April 30th: $2.922 That's a nice 29.4% increase...in just under 4 months. Even Cheney's gas-manipulation powers can't compare to that of the evil Demoncrats. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:38:03 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Hope you had a good time. Ours is sitting in my drive with the winter cover off and the batteries charging. Will take it to the marina tomorrow to start working on it. Used our Fuel Perks points (30 gallons max) and filled up my wife's Highlander (16 gallons), put 10 gallons in the boat topping it off and the remaining 4 gallons in a gas can. All for the price of a little over $5. http://www.gianteagle.com/main/artic...der_id=1127873 I paid $2.87 a gallon earlier today in Waldorf, MD, at a WaWa. As the meter ran, I genuflected in the direction of Dicque Cheney. Do you think the price of gas would fall if the Democrats took power? That would sure make boating much cheaper! The Democrats already took control of Congress on January 4th. Average price of regular grade gas on January 8th: $2.258 Average price of regular grade gas on April 30th: $2.922 That's a nice 29.4% increase...in just under 4 months. Even Cheney's gas-manipulation powers can't compare to that of the evil Demoncrats. The Democratic Congress did not establish a secret energy policy with the nation's drillers, importers, refiners, et cetera. Dick Cheney, acting on behalf of the oil interests, did. |
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NOYB wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:38:03 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Hope you had a good time. Ours is sitting in my drive with the winter cover off and the batteries charging. Will take it to the marina tomorrow to start working on it. Used our Fuel Perks points (30 gallons max) and filled up my wife's Highlander (16 gallons), put 10 gallons in the boat topping it off and the remaining 4 gallons in a gas can. All for the price of a little over $5. http://www.gianteagle.com/main/artic...der_id=1127873 I paid $2.87 a gallon earlier today in Waldorf, MD, at a WaWa. As the meter ran, I genuflected in the direction of Dicque Cheney. Do you think the price of gas would fall if the Democrats took power? That would sure make boating much cheaper! The Democrats already took control of Congress on January 4th. Average price of regular grade gas on January 8th: $2.258 Average price of regular grade gas on April 30th: $2.922 That's a nice 29.4% increase...in just under 4 months. Even Cheney's gas-manipulation powers can't compare to that of the evil Demoncrats. The Democratic Congress did not establish a secret energy policy with the nation's drillers, importers, refiners, et cetera. Dick Cheney, acting on behalf of the oil interests, did. How do you know the Democrats in Congress did not establish a secret energy policy with big oil to increase the price of oil? |
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On Sun, 06 May 2007 07:40:17 -0400, BAR wrote:
HK wrote: NOYB wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:38:03 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Hope you had a good time. Ours is sitting in my drive with the winter cover off and the batteries charging. Will take it to the marina tomorrow to start working on it. Used our Fuel Perks points (30 gallons max) and filled up my wife's Highlander (16 gallons), put 10 gallons in the boat topping it off and the remaining 4 gallons in a gas can. All for the price of a little over $5. http://www.gianteagle.com/main/artic...der_id=1127873 I paid $2.87 a gallon earlier today in Waldorf, MD, at a WaWa. As the meter ran, I genuflected in the direction of Dicque Cheney. Do you think the price of gas would fall if the Democrats took power? That would sure make boating much cheaper! The Democrats already took control of Congress on January 4th. Average price of regular grade gas on January 8th: $2.258 Average price of regular grade gas on April 30th: $2.922 That's a nice 29.4% increase...in just under 4 months. Even Cheney's gas-manipulation powers can't compare to that of the evil Demoncrats. The Democratic Congress did not establish a secret energy policy with the nation's drillers, importers, refiners, et cetera. Dick Cheney, acting on behalf of the oil interests, did. How do you know the Democrats in Congress did not establish a secret energy policy with big oil to increase the price of oil? How do you know they both didn't? Makes sense - the oil companies got what they wanted and the enviros (aka Democrats) got what they wanted. Eventually, oil use has to drop becaues of price. The real problem is the trading pits. The information flow is now instant - somebody sneezes in Nigeria or Saudi Arabia and five seconds later, it's headline news. There isn't enough time to adjust - you have to instantly react to the news and "do something". And when you add in the fact that there are only so many refiners that can produce only so much fuel the price goes up. One refinery sneezing makes the market move instantly - resulting in instant price changes at the pump - justified or not. Consider this. Two months ago, gas was at $2.34/g at a local retailer. Today, it's $3.15/g at that same retailer. What's changed? The supply is adequate, nobody is sitting in long gas lines - essentially nothing has changed. What has changed is expectations. There are worries about July and August supply problems which are reflected in today's prices. It's an any excuse market in which any news that reflects negatively in any fashion pushes the price up. Can't do anything about it because that's how the markets work. Here in CT, we have "zone" pricing - which basically says that gas pricing is done by "zones". In theory, the more affulent parts of the state pay more than the less affluent. That doesn't work. Gas is cheaper in Greenwich, for example, that it is in Putnam which is economically disadvantaged. Can't do anything about it because our brilliant Attorney General, Democrat Richard Blumenthal, claims that this is only a temporary effect - it's been temporary for the past ten years. Both the politicians and the suppliers are letting the good times roll because (1) the politicians (D/R) are in the pockets of the oil companies and refiners and (2) the oil companies are rolling in cash because of the good prices. As usual the little guy is getting it right up the patootie. CT is considering an increase in the gas tax of .06¢/g - and they are serious about it. They also want to change the current tax structure to a base level of where it is now (plus the .06¢) and add a percentage of 10% "surcharge" usage fee on top to pay for some I-95 project in New Haven. They claim that the 10% fee will go away once the project is paid for. HAH!! ~~ mutter ~~ Rant off. :) |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 06 May 2007 07:40:17 -0400, BAR wrote: HK wrote: NOYB wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:38:03 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Hope you had a good time. Ours is sitting in my drive with the winter cover off and the batteries charging. Will take it to the marina tomorrow to start working on it. Used our Fuel Perks points (30 gallons max) and filled up my wife's Highlander (16 gallons), put 10 gallons in the boat topping it off and the remaining 4 gallons in a gas can. All for the price of a little over $5. http://www.gianteagle.com/main/artic...der_id=1127873 I paid $2.87 a gallon earlier today in Waldorf, MD, at a WaWa. As the meter ran, I genuflected in the direction of Dicque Cheney. Do you think the price of gas would fall if the Democrats took power? That would sure make boating much cheaper! The Democrats already took control of Congress on January 4th. Average price of regular grade gas on January 8th: $2.258 Average price of regular grade gas on April 30th: $2.922 That's a nice 29.4% increase...in just under 4 months. Even Cheney's gas-manipulation powers can't compare to that of the evil Demoncrats. The Democratic Congress did not establish a secret energy policy with the nation's drillers, importers, refiners, et cetera. Dick Cheney, acting on behalf of the oil interests, did. How do you know the Democrats in Congress did not establish a secret energy policy with big oil to increase the price of oil? How do you know they both didn't? Makes sense - the oil companies got what they wanted and the enviros (aka Democrats) got what they wanted. Eventually, oil use has to drop becaues of price. The real problem is the trading pits. The information flow is now instant - somebody sneezes in Nigeria or Saudi Arabia and five seconds later, it's headline news. There isn't enough time to adjust - you have to instantly react to the news and "do something". The real problem is that the White House has no compunction about allowing Big Oil to perpetrate and perpetuate as big a ripoff of the consumers as possible. President Idiot just doesn't give a damn. Remember, he's the same guy who thinks it is a great idea to export as many US manufacturing jobs as possible, and to allow in as many illegals as possible, in order to drive down the wages of US workers. |
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... I think we'll go today! My son says it is too rough, but I think he's just being a sissy...... http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/AM/270.html ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Just wear a windbreaker jacket and put your ballcap on backwards. "Hurricane force wind warning N wall of Gulf Stream near 33.3n 76.7w...33.7n 76.6w...35n 75.3w" Eisboch |
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On May 6, 11:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
and put your ballcap on backwards. Eisboch You mean with the visor in the front!, no way maaaaannn ;) Anyway, it's a full brim for me. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... I think we'll go today! My son says it is too rough, but I think he's just being a sissy...... http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/AM/270.html ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Friday and Saturday were beautiful days down on the boat. I am still on it today, but it's cold, overcast with occasional downpours and the wind is blowing pretty hard. Glad the heat works. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... I think we'll go today! My son says it is too rough, but I think he's just being a sissy...... http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/AM/270.html ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Friday and Saturday were beautiful days down on the boat. I am still on it today, but it's cold, overcast with occasional downpours and the wind is blowing pretty hard. Glad the heat works. Eisboch Here it is warm, but really windy. Most of the guys who went out for rockcod or salmon were chased off the water by the winds. |
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On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:06:09 -0400, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 06 May 2007 07:40:17 -0400, BAR wrote: HK wrote: NOYB wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:38:03 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ Hope you had a good time. Ours is sitting in my drive with the winter cover off and the batteries charging. Will take it to the marina tomorrow to start working on it. Used our Fuel Perks points (30 gallons max) and filled up my wife's Highlander (16 gallons), put 10 gallons in the boat topping it off and the remaining 4 gallons in a gas can. All for the price of a little over $5. http://www.gianteagle.com/main/artic...der_id=1127873 I paid $2.87 a gallon earlier today in Waldorf, MD, at a WaWa. As the meter ran, I genuflected in the direction of Dicque Cheney. Do you think the price of gas would fall if the Democrats took power? That would sure make boating much cheaper! The Democrats already took control of Congress on January 4th. Average price of regular grade gas on January 8th: $2.258 Average price of regular grade gas on April 30th: $2.922 That's a nice 29.4% increase...in just under 4 months. Even Cheney's gas-manipulation powers can't compare to that of the evil Demoncrats. The Democratic Congress did not establish a secret energy policy with the nation's drillers, importers, refiners, et cetera. Dick Cheney, acting on behalf of the oil interests, did. How do you know the Democrats in Congress did not establish a secret energy policy with big oil to increase the price of oil? How do you know they both didn't? Makes sense - the oil companies got what they wanted and the enviros (aka Democrats) got what they wanted. Eventually, oil use has to drop becaues of price. The real problem is the trading pits. The information flow is now instant - somebody sneezes in Nigeria or Saudi Arabia and five seconds later, it's headline news. There isn't enough time to adjust - you have to instantly react to the news and "do something". The real problem is that the White House has no compunction about allowing Big Oil to perpetrate and perpetuate as big a ripoff of the consumers as possible. President Idiot just doesn't give a damn. Remember, he's the same guy who thinks it is a great idea to export as many US manufacturing jobs as possible, and to allow in as many illegals as possible, in order to drive down the wages of US workers. I don't recall any bills introduced by the Democrat controlled Congress which would change anything, Harry. They introduced a pot full of other ridiculous bills, but none attempting to stop the 'ripoff'. Just think how much more enjoyable boating would be if they *did* something! |
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On Sun, 06 May 2007 18:33:40 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... I think we'll go today! My son says it is too rough, but I think he's just being a sissy...... http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/AM/270.html ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Friday and Saturday were beautiful days down on the boat. I am still on it today, but it's cold, overcast with occasional downpours and the wind is blowing pretty hard. Glad the heat works. Eisboch Here it is warm, but really windy. Most of the guys who went out for rockcod or salmon were chased off the water by the winds. Here the temp has yet to break 60F, but the winds have many times broke 25 mph. Here's what NOAA says: ANZ530532-070215- /O.CAN.KLWX.GL.W.0012.000000T0000Z-070506T1900Z/ /O.EXT.KLWX.SC.Y.0058.070506T1451Z-070507T0200Z/ CHESAPEAKE BAY NORTH OF POOLES ISLAND- CHESAPEAKE BAY FROM POOLES ISLAND TO SANDY POINT- CHESAPEAKE BAY FROM SANDY POINT TO NORTH BEACH- 1051 AM EDT SUN MAY 6 2007 SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL 10 PM EDT THIS EVENING THIS AFTERNOON NE WINDS 20 KT WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 KT. WAVES 3 FT. TONIGHT NE WINDS 20 KT WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 KT. WAVES 3 FT. No, I didn't go out, but I did see a bunch of people braving the weather to play golf! |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message nk.net... "HK" wrote in message . .. Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ 500 hp on a 23' fishing boat? Lunacy. True. More would be better. A little underpowered for some people. yeah..and that's why we all pay so much for gas ...........you loony 'mericans and your never ending thirst for more power. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... No, I didn't go out, but I did see a bunch of people braving the weather to play golf! Did they get their hair ruffled. Imagine..braving a golf course in 20 knot winds. |
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On Sun, 6 May 2007 17:21:49 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: eah..and that's why we all pay so much for gas ...........you loony 'mericans and your never ending thirst for more power. BOOYA!!! MORE POWER!!! |
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On Sun, 06 May 2007 11:05:53 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Sat, 05 May 2007 11:58:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: Heading out in a hour or so to test a boat. Should be fun - repowered 23' Hydrasports CC - bolstered stern with twin 250 Verados. A lot of work done on this boat - came from Mississippi after Katrina. Haven't really wrung out a pair of Verados yet - should be fun. It will be interesting to see how they compare to ETECs. I'm going into this with an "open" mind. ~~ snerk ~~ I think we'll go today! My son says it is too rough, but I think he's just being a sissy...... http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/AM/270.html ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Pansy. When I was a kid, we used to row out to Cat Island in our 8 foot Butler prams in weather like that. Uphill. Both ways. Kids today - honest to pete. |
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On Sun, 6 May 2007 11:43:51 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message .. . I think we'll go today! My son says it is too rough, but I think he's just being a sissy...... http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/AM/270.html ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Just wear a windbreaker jacket and put your ballcap on backwards. "Hurricane force wind warning N wall of Gulf Stream near 33.3n 76.7w...33.7n 76.6w...35n 75.3w" Hell - no jacket. Real men don't wear jackets in weather like that. Pansies... |
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