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Anti-environmentalist quits US fish, wildlife & parks post
On Thu, 03 May 2007 11:47:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: (hate speech) It's pretty simple. I don't believe it exists. Plug the words hitler streicher speeches into your browser. Read. Get back to me. --Vic |
Anti-environmentalist quits US fish, wildlife & parks post
On May 3, 12:26 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2007 11:47:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: (hate speech) It's pretty simple. I don't believe it exists. Plug the words hitler streicher speeches into your browser. Read. Get back to me. --Vic I know I can not debate on the level you all can on this, but Hugly was on tv last night and he made a comment that I will ponder for a while. He said, "It's not what someone calls you, it's what you answer to". Realizing he is a commedian, I still found many of his comments on Imus and speech, pretty fair. Then he proceeded to say "Imus shouldn't have called them ho's, they were not ho's, but they were some nappey headed, ugly girls on that team...". Hugley words, not mine. |
Anti-environmentalist quits US fish, wildlife & parks post
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Anti-environmentalist quits US fish, wildlife & parks post
On May 3, 1:45 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On 3 May 2007 09:34:12 -0700, wrote: On May 3, 12:26 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2007 11:47:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: (hate speech) It's pretty simple. I don't believe it exists. Plug the words hitler streicher speeches into your browser. Read. Get back to me. --Vic I know I can not debate on the level you all can on this, but Hugly was on tv last night and he made a comment that I will ponder for a while. He said, "It's not what someone calls you, it's what you answer to". Realizing he is a commedian, I still found many of his comments on Imus and speech, pretty fair. Then he proceeded to say "Imus shouldn't have called them ho's, they were not ho's, but they were some nappey headed, ugly girls on that team...". Hugley words, not mine. I don't know Hugley, so I can't debate on your level with that, but that makes sense. Somebody else - Tim? - said he knows it when he hears it. Imus isn't a hater, just an ahole. Watched his show a lot before he got canned and what was most amazing about it was how so many bigshots of all political stripes would come on his show and kiss his cocaine/alcohol riddled ass. Then he shot off his mouth against the wrong target. Too bad for him. No sympathy from me, except his show was sometimes entertaining and I miss it a bit. Real hate speech has the goal to de-humanize a subset of people. And if you ain't human you can be shot, hung, gassed, or otherwise disposed of. The Germans were softened up for years by anti-semitic propagandists before the exterminations began. Nazis, white supremicists and black Nation of Islam are the best known American practitioners, and get short shrift here. Some European countries have laws against what they term hate speech - holocaust denial, for example. We don't need that here, because the 1st Amendment says you can say what you want. If you get out of hand that same 1st Amendment allows others with more sense to rip you a new one. If you get people riled enough they will riot, and then incitement laws can kick in. Those founding fathers knew their stuff. --Vic- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry, I think it is JJ Hugley, he is a black commedian, young guy, known on the WB network and commedy variety shows. I think the guy is hilarious. Anyway, I was the one that said "I know it when I hear it". I was making a wisecrack based on the observations of a SC justice on the topic of pornography. I tend to connect things differently than others, OCD, ADD, I don't know, I seem to connect with them all ;) |
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