Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:37:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 28 Apr 2007 15:19:32 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Great line: "Rust in Peace"


Could this have been a PT boat if it was rusting? Somehow or another I
thought those PT boats were plywood...am I wrong? (again?) :-)
Nope - they were built of plywood. I know they found the wreck a few
years ago, but I've got to believe it's not all that intact after
sixty plus years in the South Pacific waters.

from:
http://www.military.com/NewContent/0...032805,00.html

==========
PT boat hulls were composed of double planked 1" mahogany fastened
with monel (brass- aircraft type) screws. Sandwiched between the
layers of mahogany planks was a layer (or ply) of canvas. Every other
wooden feature on the PT boat was traditional plywood. If the hull had
been plywood, as some mistakenly believe, the boat would have
disintegrated from the pounding that the hull underwent while
underway.
===========

Some of the WW II PT boats were built at the old Ludders shipyard in
Stamford, CT which later turned into the Yacht Haven East Marina, now
known as Brewer's East and is mostly office space. When I started
boating out of Stamford in the early 70s there was still a PT boat
hull on the edge of the parking lot.




That's Luders, not Ludders. My dad owned an L16, one of the prettiest
"racing" sloops ever.

On Apr 29, 5:02�am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:37:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On 28 Apr 2007 15:19:32 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Great line: "Rust in Peace"

Could this have been a PT boat if it was rusting? Somehow or another I
thought those PT boats were plywood...am I wrong? (again?) *:-)

Nope - they were built of plywood. *I know they found the wreck a few
years ago, but I've got to believe it's not all that intact after
sixty plus years in the South Pacific waters.

from:http://www.military.com/NewContent/0...032805,00.html

==========
PT boat hulls were composed of double planked 1" mahogany fastened
with monel (brass- aircraft type) screws. Sandwiched between the
layers of mahogany planks was a layer (or ply) of canvas. Every other
wooden feature on the PT boat was traditional plywood. If the hull had
been plywood, as some mistakenly believe, the boat would have
disintegrated from the pounding that the hull underwent while
underway.
===========

Some of the WW II PT boats were built at the old Ludders shipyard in
Stamford, CT which later turned into the Yacht Haven East Marina, now
known as Brewer's East and is mostly office space. *When I started
boating out of Stamford in the early 70s there was still a PT boat
hull on the edge of the parking lot.

So there was a lot of plywood used in the construction, but the hull
itself was double planked mahogany.

On 29 Apr 2007 07:43:31 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

So there was a lot of plywood used in the construction, but the hull
itself was double planked mahogany.

So it seems. I'd always been told that they were built entirely of
plywood but that doesn't look like it's entirely true, and it
certainly makes sense given the conditions and speed range that they
operated in.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:15:50 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Some of the WW II PT boats were built at the old Ludders shipyard in
Stamford, CT which later turned into the Yacht Haven East Marina, now
known as Brewer's East and is mostly office space. When I started
boating out of Stamford in the early 70s there was still a PT boat
hull on the edge of the parking lot.




That's Luders, not Ludders. My dad owned an L16, one of the prettiest
"racing" sloops ever.

Right you are, good catch.

And yes, the L16 is a darned fine looking boat.

http://www.sailset.com/L16/L16-2003.html

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:15:50 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Some of the WW II PT boats were built at the old Ludders shipyard in
Stamford, CT which later turned into the Yacht Haven East Marina, now
known as Brewer's East and is mostly office space. When I started
boating out of Stamford in the early 70s there was still a PT boat
hull on the edge of the parking lot.



That's Luders, not Ludders. My dad owned an L16, one of the prettiest
"racing" sloops ever.

Right you are, good catch.

And yes, the L16 is a darned fine looking boat.

http://www.sailset.com/L16/L16-2003.html




In addition to absolutely beautiful lines, the L16s were beautiful up
close. They were built of molded mahogany. Nice sailing boats, too.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:15:50 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Some of the WW II PT boats were built at the old Ludders shipyard in
Stamford, CT which later turned into the Yacht Haven East Marina, now
known as Brewer's East and is mostly office space. When I started
boating out of Stamford in the early 70s there was still a PT boat
hull on the edge of the parking lot.



That's Luders, not Ludders. My dad owned an L16, one of the prettiest
"racing" sloops ever.

Right you are, good catch.

And yes, the L16 is a darned fine looking boat.

http://www.sailset.com/L16/L16-2003.html




In addition to absolutely beautiful lines, the L16s were beautiful up
close. They were built of molded mahogany. Nice sailing boats, too.

Beautiful boats...there are still quite a number of Roue 20 sailboats that
race up here.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/270...48410445EZonNZ

Don White wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:15:50 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Some of the WW II PT boats were built at the old Ludders shipyard in
Stamford, CT which later turned into the Yacht Haven East Marina, now
known as Brewer's East and is mostly office space. When I started
boating out of Stamford in the early 70s there was still a PT boat
hull on the edge of the parking lot.


That's Luders, not Ludders. My dad owned an L16, one of the prettiest
"racing" sloops ever.
Right you are, good catch.

And yes, the L16 is a darned fine looking boat.

http://www.sailset.com/L16/L16-2003.html



In addition to absolutely beautiful lines, the L16s were beautiful up
close. They were built of molded mahogany. Nice sailing boats, too.

Beautiful boats...there are still quite a number of Roue 20 sailboats that
race up here.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/270...48410445EZonNZ





There are very few modern boats that can compete in looks with the
beauty of some of the older boats.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:04:24 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

There are very few modern boats that can compete in looks with the
beauty of some of the older boats.

Unfortunately that's true and not likely to change. The newer hi tech
sailboats are not particularly sleek looking but they can run circles
around the older boats of comparable size.