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Chuck Gould April 28th 07 02:15 AM

34 Week inventory, sales down, stock soaring (????)
 
On Apr 27, 1:48�pm, Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:07:38 -0700, "Danlw"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 18:08:12 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:


Means that folks of ordinary or upper middle class
means aren't buying boats, and that volume is pretty crucial to
pricing of a lot of goods and services that even those of us who
aren't going to be trading boats any time soon consume on a regular
basis.
I've been saying that for over a year now just based on observation
and intuition.


I'm not exactly destitute, but it cost me $204 today to fill the truck
with diesel (30 gallons - $83) and fill the boat (42 gallons - $121)
after burning off the old fuel this afternoon.


Do that every weekend, plus all the other expenses of going to work
(which I don't do), increasing food and home energy costs, something
has to give and that's going to be the boat.


While the economy is stable, this notion of the FED that only core CPI
is a valid indicator of inflation and living costs is ridiculous. *The
real rate of inflation is around 13% from the first of the year and
the FED is pretending it's only around 2.3% because they discount
energy and food. *Last year, real inflation was something like 9%.


Add increasing income taxes, increasing fees (my registrations went up
this year by $5 across the board), insurance, etc., boating is the
first to go.
WOW. Only 42 gallons in the boat! *Count your blessings--I put in 110
gallons today--ouch! *Did get away with only 18 gallons of Diesel in the
truck though. ;).
I only have a 50 gallon tank in the Ranger. :)


But speaking of which and somewhat related to Chuck's post, I know a
lot of the tourny fishermen around here are cutting back on their
weekend tournaments because of fuel prices - they can't afford to
travel anymore - it would cost them more to go than they could
potentially win.


I am sure glad we sold our 32 footer when we did. *She carried 186 gallons
of fuel and was not thrifty on gas. *With marina fuel prices this season
probably approaching $4/gallon..................$744 for a fill up.
OUCH!!!!!!!!!


For those with bigger boats and larger fuel tanks...........best of luck.


If there is a trend towards smaller boats, I'd certainly welcome it.
In addition to burning too much fuel, the larger powerboats hog dock
space at marinas and restaurants, take too long to fill up at fuel
docks, and clog up many of the Bay's small harbors with their avoirdupois..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I suppose you're entitled to that opinion, especially since your
"larger" boat doesn't occupy any space at all at a restaurant or
marina. :-)


Dan April 28th 07 02:21 AM

34 Week inventory, sales down, stock soaring (????)
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Apr 27, 1:48�pm, Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:07:38 -0700, "Danlw"
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 18:08:12 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:
Means that folks of ordinary or upper middle class
means aren't buying boats, and that volume is pretty crucial to
pricing of a lot of goods and services that even those of us who
aren't going to be trading boats any time soon consume on a regular
basis.
I've been saying that for over a year now just based on observation
and intuition.
I'm not exactly destitute, but it cost me $204 today to fill the truck
with diesel (30 gallons - $83) and fill the boat (42 gallons - $121)
after burning off the old fuel this afternoon.
Do that every weekend, plus all the other expenses of going to work
(which I don't do), increasing food and home energy costs, something
has to give and that's going to be the boat.
While the economy is stable, this notion of the FED that only core CPI
is a valid indicator of inflation and living costs is ridiculous. �The
real rate of inflation is around 13% from the first of the year and
the FED is pretending it's only around 2.3% because they discount
energy and food. �Last year, real inflation was something like 9%.
Add increasing income taxes, increasing fees (my registrations went up
this year by $5 across the board), insurance, etc., boating is the
first to go.
WOW. Only 42 gallons in the boat! �Count your blessings--I put in 110
gallons today--ouch! �Did get away with only 18 gallons of Diesel in the
truck though. ;).
I only have a 50 gallon tank in the Ranger. :)
But speaking of which and somewhat related to Chuck's post, I know a
lot of the tourny fishermen around here are cutting back on their
weekend tournaments because of fuel prices - they can't afford to
travel anymore - it would cost them more to go than they could
potentially win.
I am sure glad we sold our 32 footer when we did. �She carried 186 gallons
of fuel and was not thrifty on gas. �With marina fuel prices this season
probably approaching $4/gallon..................$744 for a fill up.
OUCH!!!!!!!!!
For those with bigger boats and larger fuel tanks...........best of luck.

If there is a trend towards smaller boats, I'd certainly welcome it.
In addition to burning too much fuel, the larger powerboats hog dock
space at marinas and restaurants, take too long to fill up at fuel
docks, and clog up many of the Bay's small harbors with their avoirdupois.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I suppose you're entitled to that opinion, especially since your
"larger" boat doesn't occupy any space at all at a restaurant or
marina. :-)

crickets

Don White April 28th 07 02:22 AM

34 Week inventory, sales down, stock soaring (????)
 

"Dan" wrote in message
...

And yet another testimony to the lack of existence of the imaginary
"lobster boat" brought to you by Harry.



Sure can tell it's Friday.
Wild Bill has gone to town and gotten all liquored up again.



JimH April 28th 07 02:27 AM

34 Week inventory, sales down, stock soaring (????)
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 27, 1:48?pm, Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:07:38 -0700, "Danlw"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 18:08:12 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:


Means that folks of ordinary or upper middle class
means aren't buying boats, and that volume is pretty crucial to
pricing of a lot of goods and services that even those of us who
aren't going to be trading boats any time soon consume on a regular
basis.
I've been saying that for over a year now just based on observation
and intuition.


I'm not exactly destitute, but it cost me $204 today to fill the
truck
with diesel (30 gallons - $83) and fill the boat (42 gallons - $121)
after burning off the old fuel this afternoon.


Do that every weekend, plus all the other expenses of going to work
(which I don't do), increasing food and home energy costs, something
has to give and that's going to be the boat.


While the economy is stable, this notion of the FED that only core
CPI
is a valid indicator of inflation and living costs is ridiculous. The
real rate of inflation is around 13% from the first of the year and
the FED is pretending it's only around 2.3% because they discount
energy and food. Last year, real inflation was something like 9%.


Add increasing income taxes, increasing fees (my registrations went
up
this year by $5 across the board), insurance, etc., boating is the
first to go.
WOW. Only 42 gallons in the boat! Count your blessings--I put in 110
gallons today--ouch! Did get away with only 18 gallons of Diesel in
the
truck though. ;).
I only have a 50 gallon tank in the Ranger. :)


But speaking of which and somewhat related to Chuck's post, I know a
lot of the tourny fishermen around here are cutting back on their
weekend tournaments because of fuel prices - they can't afford to
travel anymore - it would cost them more to go than they could
potentially win.


I am sure glad we sold our 32 footer when we did. She carried 186
gallons
of fuel and was not thrifty on gas. With marina fuel prices this season
probably approaching $4/gallon..................$744 for a fill up.
OUCH!!!!!!!!!


For those with bigger boats and larger fuel tanks...........best of
luck.


If there is a trend towards smaller boats, I'd certainly welcome it.
In addition to burning too much fuel, the larger powerboats hog dock
space at marinas and restaurants, take too long to fill up at fuel
docks, and clog up many of the Bay's small harbors with their
avoirdupois.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I suppose you're entitled to that opinion, especially since your
"larger" boat doesn't occupy any space at all at a restaurant or
marina. :-)

==============

Remind me again how that post works towards improving the tone of this NG?



Don White April 28th 07 02:37 AM

34 Week inventory, sales down, stock soaring (????)
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Dan" wrote in message
...

And yet another testimony to the lack of existence of the imaginary
"lobster boat" brought to you by Harry.



Sure can tell it's Friday.
Wild Bill has gone to town and gotten all liquored up again.


ooops..correction.
It's Diaper Dan this time..............



Calif Bill April 28th 07 03:00 AM

34 Week inventory, sales down, stock soaring (????)
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Dan" wrote in message
...

And yet another testimony to the lack of existence of the imaginary
"lobster boat" brought to you by Harry.



Sure can tell it's Friday.
Wild Bill has gone to town and gotten all liquored up again.


ooops..correction.
It's Diaper Dan this time..............


Maybe you should lay of the alcohol and drugs. Bad for a puppy.



Harry Krause April 28th 07 03:17 AM

34 Week inventory, sales down, stock soaring (????)
 
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Dan" wrote in message
...
And yet another testimony to the lack of existence of the imaginary
"lobster boat" brought to you by Harry.


Sure can tell it's Friday.
Wild Bill has gone to town and gotten all liquored up again.


ooops..correction.
It's Diaper Dan this time..............




They all share the same dumb thought, so it really doesn't matter if no
one can keep their names straight.

John H. April 28th 07 01:51 PM

34 Week inventory, sales down, stock soaring (????)
 
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:06:27 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:34:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 26 Apr 2007 18:08:12 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Means that folks of ordinary or upper middle class
means aren't buying boats, and that volume is pretty crucial to
pricing of a lot of goods and services that even those of us who
aren't going to be trading boats any time soon consume on a regular
basis.

I've been saying that for over a year now just based on observation
and intuition.

I'm not exactly destitute, but it cost me $204 today to fill the truck
with diesel (30 gallons - $83) and fill the boat (42 gallons - $121)
after burning off the old fuel this afternoon.

Do that every weekend, plus all the other expenses of going to work
(which I don't do), increasing food and home energy costs, something
has to give and that's going to be the boat.

While the economy is stable, this notion of the FED that only core CPI
is a valid indicator of inflation and living costs is ridiculous. The
real rate of inflation is around 13% from the first of the year and
the FED is pretending it's only around 2.3% because they discount
energy and food. Last year, real inflation was something like 9%.

Add increasing income taxes, increasing fees (my registrations went up
this year by $5 across the board), insurance, etc., boating is the
first to go.


...and besides, golf is not only cheaper, it's better exercise than
fishing, unless you walk on water!


I used to golf, and I still think boating is cheaper. At least with a 21'
boat.


I just spent $1200 on repair of the power trim, tune up, lower unit
service, thermostat, etc. on my 21'er.

All of my clubs and shoes and bag came to less than that! And that doesn't
count $1800 a year storage, not to mention the cost of the boat. Of course,
much of those costs are offset by all the fish I get to eat for free. :)



John H. April 28th 07 01:53 PM

34 Week inventory, sales down, stock soaring (????)
 
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 01:37:27 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Dan" wrote in message
...

And yet another testimony to the lack of existence of the imaginary
"lobster boat" brought to you by Harry.



Sure can tell it's Friday.
Wild Bill has gone to town and gotten all liquored up again.


ooops..correction.
It's Diaper Dan this time..............


You're so cute and predictable, Don. What a neat guy. Almost as cool as
your buddy, the lobsta' boat owner.

John H. April 28th 07 01:54 PM

34 Week inventory, sales down, stock soaring (????)
 
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:27:13 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
roups.com...
On Apr 27, 1:48?pm, Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:07:38 -0700, "Danlw"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 18:08:12 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:


Means that folks of ordinary or upper middle class
means aren't buying boats, and that volume is pretty crucial to
pricing of a lot of goods and services that even those of us who
aren't going to be trading boats any time soon consume on a regular
basis.
I've been saying that for over a year now just based on observation
and intuition.


I'm not exactly destitute, but it cost me $204 today to fill the
truck
with diesel (30 gallons - $83) and fill the boat (42 gallons - $121)
after burning off the old fuel this afternoon.


Do that every weekend, plus all the other expenses of going to work
(which I don't do), increasing food and home energy costs, something
has to give and that's going to be the boat.


While the economy is stable, this notion of the FED that only core
CPI
is a valid indicator of inflation and living costs is ridiculous. The
real rate of inflation is around 13% from the first of the year and
the FED is pretending it's only around 2.3% because they discount
energy and food. Last year, real inflation was something like 9%.


Add increasing income taxes, increasing fees (my registrations went
up
this year by $5 across the board), insurance, etc., boating is the
first to go.
WOW. Only 42 gallons in the boat! Count your blessings--I put in 110
gallons today--ouch! Did get away with only 18 gallons of Diesel in
the
truck though. ;).
I only have a 50 gallon tank in the Ranger. :)


But speaking of which and somewhat related to Chuck's post, I know a
lot of the tourny fishermen around here are cutting back on their
weekend tournaments because of fuel prices - they can't afford to
travel anymore - it would cost them more to go than they could
potentially win.


I am sure glad we sold our 32 footer when we did. She carried 186
gallons
of fuel and was not thrifty on gas. With marina fuel prices this season
probably approaching $4/gallon..................$744 for a fill up.
OUCH!!!!!!!!!


For those with bigger boats and larger fuel tanks...........best of
luck.


If there is a trend towards smaller boats, I'd certainly welcome it.
In addition to burning too much fuel, the larger powerboats hog dock
space at marinas and restaurants, take too long to fill up at fuel
docks, and clog up many of the Bay's small harbors with their
avoirdupois.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I suppose you're entitled to that opinion, especially since your
"larger" boat doesn't occupy any space at all at a restaurant or
marina. :-)

==============

Remind me again how that post works towards improving the tone of this NG?


It gave me a good Saturday morning laugh!


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