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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:58:34 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

To me, severe penalties for abuse would accomplish that.

The prison system is already full and overflowing, many for drug
related crime. Not to trivialize the drug abuse issue, but I'd rather
see those cells reserved for perpetrators of violent crime, property
crime and fraud. Better treatment programs are a better bet in my
opinion, along with legalized access for the incurably addicted.

Like you said, as long as the demand is there, supply will follow.

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:38:18 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:58:34 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

To me, severe penalties for abuse would accomplish that.

The prison system is already full and overflowing, many for drug
related crime. Not to trivialize the drug abuse issue, but I'd rather
see those cells reserved for perpetrators of violent crime, property
crime and fraud. Better treatment programs are a better bet in my
opinion, along with legalized access for the incurably addicted.

Like you said, as long as the demand is there, supply will follow.

I don't disagree with that. I don't argue for incarceration. Rather
removal of privileges is suitable to my way of thinking.

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:38:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I don't disagree with that. I don't argue for incarceration. Rather
removal of privileges is suitable to my way of thinking.

It's a good thought but "removing privileges" requires enforcement,
etc. If you have a sub-culture that is already breaking the law by
abusing drugs, is it any more likely that they will voluntarily abide
by a "loss of privilege"? As an example, there are incredible
statistics about the number of people still driving with suspended or
revoked drivers licenses. Unless you go to a total police state with
embedded ID chips and constant checkpoints, it's not likely to work in
my opinion, and let's be careful what we ask for... :-)

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:05:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:38:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I don't disagree with that. I don't argue for incarceration. Rather
removal of privileges is suitable to my way of thinking.

It's a good thought but "removing privileges" requires enforcement,
etc. If you have a sub-culture that is already breaking the law by
abusing drugs, is it any more likely that they will voluntarily abide
by a "loss of privilege"? As an example, there are incredible
statistics about the number of people still driving with suspended or
revoked drivers licenses. Unless you go to a total police state with
embedded ID chips and constant checkpoints, it's not likely to work in
my opinion, and let's be careful what we ask for... :-)

Good point.

Prohibition it is then. :)

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On Apr 23, 11:09 pm, Tim wrote:
Your tax dollars at work!

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=29...C-RSSFeeds0312

Ooooops, looks like someone didn't get paid enough.

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On Apr 24, 9:36 am, wrote:
The high cost of drug use is because it is illegal and the price is
artificially inflated to line the pockets of those in the manu. and distr.
of the illegal drugs. If they were not illegal, they could be sold for
less than alcohol.


Yup, and the other cost is in lining the pockets of the cops and other
law enforcement officials who protect those manu. and dist. Where I
grew up, if you did not feed the cops, you got busted. Even worse if
you tried to compete with their kids for the drug business.

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On Apr 24, 8:54 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


Do NOT send this discussion off in another direction by pointing out that
crimes are sometimes committed because people are drunk. That has nothing to
do with the legality of the substance involved.-

The discussion has already been railroad'd into another direction.

I posted the story in praise of the USCG, for rounding up a huge drug
bust.

Even though the smugglers had the stuff out in front of God and
everybody else, the situation still demands an aplause for the USCG,
and their protection of our shores.

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On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





"JimH" wrote in message

.. .

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"JimH" wrote in message
. ..

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
. ..
In oglegroups.com,
Tim
sprach forth the following:

Your tax dollars at work!

Who cares if someone is hurting themselves?

Because drug use often results in crimes on others to obtain money to
support the habit, especially with hard drugs like cocaine.

Quiz time, Jim. Think about violence related to the manufacture,
transport and sale of alcoholic beverages. When is the last time you
heard of that kind of violence SPECIFICALLY related to booze?

That has nothing to do with Fred's question. Nice try.

It has everything to do with it. But, I'm not surprised you missed it. Hint:
Forget the words "drug use" and think about the word "crimes". Or,
substitute "violence".- Hide quoted text -

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for crying out loud. It's an article about the USCG hauling the bigest
drug bust they've ever had. 20 tons of coke!

I'm really amazed that the smugglers had the cargo sitting right on
the top for all the world to see.

that's brazenly foolish.- Hide quoted text -

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Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

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On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:






Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.


Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

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On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

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On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich. And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.

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On Apr 26, 3:14 pm, John H. wrote:
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich. And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Perhaps, but then again, as the old saying goes, "there is no such
thing as the mafia". Many times however these cops don't necessarily
think that their actions are "bad". I also have relatives who are
cops, and I would not want to cross em'. With respect for your sincere
debate, I will leave this one alone for now.

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an empty
highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers do this
constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops crawling
out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They don't call a
taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department is standing trial
this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a .24, three times the
legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV news: Yes, he was ****
faced, but it was not related to the accident.

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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

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"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

Your son's a LEO, right?

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:45:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for
the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

Your son's a LEO, right?


Regardless, he made an appropriate comment.


Why do you think it was appropriate?

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an empty
highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers do this
constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops crawling
out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They don't call a
taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department is standing
trial this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a .24, three
times the legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV news: Yes, he
was **** faced, but it was not related to the accident.


*Some* are indeed nothing more than bad guys carrying a badge. *Most*,
however, are good guys putting their lives on the line each and every day
for us.

Next time you desperately need a police officer remember what you just said
about them. ;-)

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JimH wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.
Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?
Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.
Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.
To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an empty
highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers do this
constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops crawling
out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They don't call a
taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department is standing
trial this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a .24, three
times the legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV news: Yes, he
was **** faced, but it was not related to the accident.


*Some* are indeed nothing more than bad guys carrying a badge. *Most*,
however, are good guys putting their lives on the line each and every day
for us.

Next time you desperately need a police officer remember what you just said
about them. ;-)




I won't argue against the premise that most cops are honest, but I also
won't argue that one should rely on the police to provide much help when
you really need it, and I don't mean any sort of "traffic direction."

In most cases, police response time is an abomination, no matter where
you live. If you hear a burglar outside your house and you call 911, by
the time the cops show up the bad guy has left with your silverware.

I'm commenting on the police as an institution here, not on individual
cops.

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:23:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:45:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for
the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

Your son's a LEO, right?


Regardless, he made an appropriate comment.


Why do you think it was appropriate?


Because there was no reason to think otherwise!

In other words, you're either drunk again, or your lithium has worn off.

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"JimH" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by
the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops.
That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you
make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an
empty highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers
do this constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops
crawling out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They
don't call a taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department
is standing trial this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a
.24, three times the legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV
news: Yes, he was **** faced, but it was not related to the accident.


*Some* are indeed nothing more than bad guys carrying a badge. *Most*,
however, are good guys putting their lives on the line each and every day
for us.

Next time you desperately need a police officer remember what you just
said about them. ;-)


Never forget that you are an idiot. The existence of bad cops does not mean
bad ones don't exist. If you dispute this simple fact, explain why.

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:58:48 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

"JimH" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by
the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.
Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?
Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.
Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops.
That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you
make
them out to be.
To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an
empty highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers
do this constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops
crawling out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They
don't call a taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department
is standing trial this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a
.24, three times the legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV
news: Yes, he was **** faced, but it was not related to the accident.

*Some* are indeed nothing more than bad guys carrying a badge. *Most*,
however, are good guys putting their lives on the line each and every day
for us.

Next time you desperately need a police officer remember what you just
said about them. ;-)

Never forget that you are an idiot. The existence of bad cops does not mean
bad ones don't exist. If you dispute this simple fact, explain why.


Do you realize that you posted to Harry, but snipped his comments and
replied to the poster above Harry.....?

This thread has become almost impossible to decode....



Are you implying it is necessary to read "wrecked.boats" closely?

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:58:48 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

"JimH" wrote in message
. ..

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700,
wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by
the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops.
That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you
make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for
the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an
empty highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see
troopers
do this constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops
crawling out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They
don't call a taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department
is standing trial this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a
.24, three times the legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV
news: Yes, he was **** faced, but it was not related to the accident.


*Some* are indeed nothing more than bad guys carrying a badge. *Most*,
however, are good guys putting their lives on the line each and every
day
for us.

Next time you desperately need a police officer remember what you just
said about them. ;-)


Never forget that you are an idiot. The existence of bad cops does not
mean
bad ones don't exist. If you dispute this simple fact, explain why.


Do you realize that you posted to Harry, but snipped his comments and
replied to the poster above Harry.....?

This thread has become almost impossible to decode....


Yeah...I know. I was supposed to type "does not mean GOOD ones don't exist".
But, you probably understood that.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by
the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops.
That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you
make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for
the law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an
empty highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers
do this constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops
crawling out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They
don't call a taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department
is standing trial this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a
.24, three times the legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV
news: Yes, he was **** faced, but it was not related to the accident.


*Some* are indeed nothing more than bad guys carrying a badge. *Most*,
however, are good guys putting their lives on the line each and every day
for us.

Next time you desperately need a police officer remember what you just
said about them. ;-)


Never forget that you are an idiot.


You are a class act Doug. When in a corner you resort to personal attacks
and insults. I sometimes wonder why I bother responding to your posts.


The existence of bad cops does not mean bad ones don't exist.

Huh??? Eh?????????? Huh?????????????????

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:58:48 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

"JimH" wrote in message
.. .

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700,
wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by
the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so
many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a
situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet
and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are
rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops.
That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you
make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for
the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an
empty highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see
troopers
do this constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops
crawling out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They
don't call a taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's
department
is standing trial this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a
.24, three times the legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV
news: Yes, he was **** faced, but it was not related to the accident.


*Some* are indeed nothing more than bad guys carrying a badge. *Most*,
however, are good guys putting their lives on the line each and every
day
for us.

Next time you desperately need a police officer remember what you just
said about them. ;-)


Never forget that you are an idiot. The existence of bad cops does not
mean
bad ones don't exist. If you dispute this simple fact, explain why.


Do you realize that you posted to Harry, but snipped his comments and
replied to the poster above Harry.....?

This thread has become almost impossible to decode....


Yeah...I know. I was supposed to type "does not mean GOOD ones don't
exist". But, you probably understood that.


And you have the balls to call others idiots. ROTF!!!!!!!!!

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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an empty
highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers do this
constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops crawling
out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They don't call a
taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department is standing trial
this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a .24, three times the
legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV news: Yes, he was ****
faced, but it was not related to the accident.


To varying degrees we're all thugs.

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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:45:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

Your son's a LEO, right?


Regardless, he made an appropriate comment.

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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:23:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:45:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for
the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

Your son's a LEO, right?


Regardless, he made an appropriate comment.


Why do you think it was appropriate?


Because there was no reason to think otherwise!

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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:57:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:23:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:45:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for
the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

Your son's a LEO, right?


Regardless, he made an appropriate comment.


Why do you think it was appropriate?


Because there was no reason to think otherwise!

In other words, you're either drunk again, or your lithium has worn off.


You know how your opinions are valued.

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"JimH" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:58:48 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

"JimH" wrote in message
. ..

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700,
wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700,
wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made
by
the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys,
right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so
many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a
situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and
the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet
and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are
rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops.
That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you
make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for
the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an
empty highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see
troopers
do this constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops
crawling out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They
don't call a taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's
department
is standing trial this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew
a
.24, three times the legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV
news: Yes, he was **** faced, but it was not related to the accident.


*Some* are indeed nothing more than bad guys carrying a badge.
*Most*,
however, are good guys putting their lives on the line each and every
day
for us.

Next time you desperately need a police officer remember what you just
said about them. ;-)


Never forget that you are an idiot. The existence of bad cops does not
mean
bad ones don't exist. If you dispute this simple fact, explain why.


Do you realize that you posted to Harry, but snipped his comments and
replied to the poster above Harry.....?

This thread has become almost impossible to decode....


Yeah...I know. I was supposed to type "does not mean GOOD ones don't
exist". But, you probably understood that.


And you have the balls to call others idiots. ROTF!!!!!!!!!



It's called a mistake, professor. The lunacy you type is intentional.

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:






Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.


Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Lot of money is made by the good guys. And none of it has to be payoffs!
Lots of job security and overtime chasing drug suppliers and users.