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Hi all,

I have an old 14' Alumacraft boat. The boat does not have a water
drain plug so if I leave it on the trailer it fills up with water.
What I would like to do is add a drain plug to it. Has anyone here
ever done that?

Thanks,

Dave

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"dave_in_mn" wrote in message
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Hi all,

I have an old 14' Alumacraft boat. The boat does not have a water
drain plug so if I leave it on the trailer it fills up with water.
What I would like to do is add a drain plug to it. Has anyone here
ever done that?

Thanks,

Dave


I have not installed one before but it is an easy $13 fix.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tempo...QQcmdZViewItem

http://tinyurl.com/2x9goh

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On Apr 1, 3:52?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"dave_in_mn" wrote in message

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Hi all,

I have an old 14' Alumacraft boat. The boat does not have a water
drain plug so if I leave it on the trailer it fills up with water.
What I would like to do is add a drain plug to it. Has anyone here
ever done that?

Thanks,

Dave

I have not installed one before but it is an easy $13 fix.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tempo...eiver-Kit_W0QQ...

http://tinyurl.com/2x9goh

What sort of screws would you recommend, Jim?
He doesn't want to use bronze or steel fasteners on that fitting or he
will soon have a drain hole on that aluminum boat a heck of a lot
bigger than he wanted. The fitting itself is plastic, which eliminates
the corrosion from that source, but it looks like it needs to be
fastened on with screws and that might be a concern unless carefully
and properly done.

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On Apr 1, 3:52?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"dave_in_mn" wrote in message

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Hi all,

I have an old 14' Alumacraft boat. The boat does not have a water
drain plug so if I leave it on the trailer it fills up with water.
What I would like to do is add a drain plug to it. Has anyone here
ever done that?

Thanks,

Dave

I have not installed one before but it is an easy $13 fix.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tempo...eiver-Kit_W0QQ...

http://tinyurl.com/2x9goh

What sort of screws would you recommend, Jim?


Actually I would think the installations calls for the use of nuts and
bolts, not screws.

1. Stainless nuts and bolts. The bolt holes in the hull would be oversized
so the bolts do not touch the hull. I would also use plastic sleeves to
encase the bolts, ensuring no contact with the aluminum.

or

2. Aluminum nuts/bolts. I would then use JB Weld to reinforce the outside
edges of the plug frame, both inside and outside the boat.

It is not a difficult fix Chuck.

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On Apr 1, 3:52?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"dave_in_mn" wrote in message

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Hi all,

I have an old 14' Alumacraft boat. The boat does not have a water
drain plug so if I leave it on the trailer it fills up with water.
What I would like to do is add a drain plug to it. Has anyone here
ever done that?

Thanks,

Dave

I have not installed one before but it is an easy $13 fix.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tempo...eiver-Kit_W0QQ...

http://tinyurl.com/2x9goh

What sort of screws would you recommend, Jim?

Actually I would think the installations calls for the use of nuts and
bolts, not screws.

1. Stainless nuts and bolts. The bolt holes in the hull would be oversized
so the bolts do not touch the hull. I would also use plastic sleeves to
encase the bolts, ensuring no contact with the aluminum.

or

2. Aluminum nuts/bolts. I would then use JB Weld to reinforce the outside
edges of the plug frame, both inside and outside the boat.

It is not a difficult fix Chuck.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim, what would be wrong about using simple, easy to find aluminum
rivets?

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On Apr 1, 3:52?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"dave_in_mn" wrote in message

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Hi all,

I have an old 14' Alumacraft boat. The boat does not have a water
drain plug so if I leave it on the trailer it fills up with water.
What I would like to do is add a drain plug to it. Has anyone here
ever done that?

Thanks,

Dave

I have not installed one before but it is an easy $13 fix.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tempo...eiver-Kit_W0QQ...

http://tinyurl.com/2x9goh

What sort of screws would you recommend, Jim?

Actually I would think the installations calls for the use of nuts and
bolts, not screws.

1. Stainless nuts and bolts. The bolt holes in the hull would be
oversized
so the bolts do not touch the hull. I would also use plastic sleeves to
encase the bolts, ensuring no contact with the aluminum.

or

2. Aluminum nuts/bolts. I would then use JB Weld to reinforce the
outside
edges of the plug frame, both inside and outside the boat.

It is not a difficult fix Chuck.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim, what would be wrong about using simple, easy to find aluminum
rivets?


They can't be tightened when necessary. And, to make them watertight, they'd
need as much fiddling with as nuts & bolts, so he may as well just use nuts
& bolts.

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On 2 Apr 2007 00:06:03 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

What sort of screws would you recommend, Jim?
He doesn't want to use bronze or steel fasteners on that fitting or he
will soon have a drain hole on that aluminum boat a heck of a lot
bigger than he wanted. The fitting itself is plastic, which eliminates
the corrosion from that source, but it looks like it needs to be
fastened on with screws and that might be a concern unless carefully
and properly done.

I have put a *lot* of stainless steel screws into aluminum back in my
sailing days. There is usually no issue at all unless you are in salt
water and want to get them out at a later date. In that case the
threads need to be coated with silicone sealant before installing.

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On Apr 2, 4:50?am, "JimH" wrote:


It is not a difficult fix Chuck.- Hide quoted text -


No, it isn't. But mixing metals with an aluminum hull shouldn't be
done without some precautions. Thanks for adding the details to your
recommendation. :-)

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On Apr 2, 9:31 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

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On Apr 2, 7:50 am, "JimH" wrote:
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On Apr 1, 3:52?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"dave_in_mn" wrote in message

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Hi all,

I have an old 14' Alumacraft boat. The boat does not have a water
drain plug so if I leave it on the trailer it fills up with water.
What I would like to do is add a drain plug to it. Has anyone here
ever done that?

Thanks,

Dave

I have not installed one before but it is an easy $13 fix.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tempo...eiver-Kit_W0QQ...

http://tinyurl.com/2x9goh

What sort of screws would you recommend, Jim?

Actually I would think the installations calls for the use of nuts and
bolts, not screws.

1. Stainless nuts and bolts. The bolt holes in the hull would be
oversized
so the bolts do not touch the hull. I would also use plastic sleeves to
encase the bolts, ensuring no contact with the aluminum.

or

2. Aluminum nuts/bolts. I would then use JB Weld to reinforce the
outside
edges of the plug frame, both inside and outside the boat.

It is not a difficult fix Chuck.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim, what would be wrong about using simple, easy to find aluminum
rivets?

They can't be tightened when necessary. And, to make them watertight, they'd
need as much fiddling with as nuts & bolts, so he may as well just use nuts
& bolts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's easier to use and find aluminum rivets than aluminum bolts, nuts
and washers. It's also easy to to wring off an aluminum bolt.

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basskisser wrote:

It's easier to use and find aluminum rivets than aluminum bolts, nuts
and washers. It's also easy to to wring off an aluminum bolt.

I'm sure it is easy "to to wring" off an aluminum bolt

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"Tim" wrote in message
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basskisser wrote:

It's easier to use and find aluminum rivets than aluminum bolts, nuts
and washers. It's also easy to to wring off an aluminum bolt.

I'm sure it is easy "to to wring" off an aluminum bolt


Only if it has a left hand thread.

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On Apr 2, 7:06 pm, "Tim" wrote:
basskisser wrote:

It's easier to use and find aluminum rivets than aluminum bolts, nuts
and washers. It's also easy to to wring off an aluminum bolt.

I'm sure it is easy "to to wring" off an aluminum bolt

Go buy some more friends, just like the little kid with candy. If you
want to get into an intelligent discussion on metalurgy, let's go!
But, I'll bet you just really want to be an ignorant child.

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On Apr 2, 7:50 am, "JimH" wrote:
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On Apr 1, 3:52?pm, "JimH" wrote:
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Hi all,

I have an old 14' Alumacraft boat. The boat does not have a water
drain plug so if I leave it on the trailer it fills up with
water.
What I would like to do is add a drain plug to it. Has anyone
here
ever done that?

Thanks,

Dave

I have not installed one before but it is an easy $13 fix.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tempo...eiver-Kit_W0QQ...

http://tinyurl.com/2x9goh

What sort of screws would you recommend, Jim?

Actually I would think the installations calls for the use of nuts and
bolts, not screws.

1. Stainless nuts and bolts. The bolt holes in the hull would be
oversized
so the bolts do not touch the hull. I would also use plastic sleeves
to
encase the bolts, ensuring no contact with the aluminum.

or

2. Aluminum nuts/bolts. I would then use JB Weld to reinforce the
outside
edges of the plug frame, both inside and outside the boat.

It is not a difficult fix Chuck.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim, what would be wrong about using simple, easy to find aluminum
rivets?

They can't be tightened when necessary. And, to make them watertight,
they'd
need as much fiddling with as nuts & bolts, so he may as well just use
nuts
& bolts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's easier to use and find aluminum rivets than aluminum bolts, nuts
and washers. It's also easy to to wring off an aluminum bolt.


Should SS hardware be OK, if the boat's only used in fresh water? The ones I
used to attach my depth finder's sender show no signs of corrosion at all,
or any adverse interaction with the aluminum hull.

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On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:06:02 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Should SS hardware be OK, if the boat's only used in fresh water? The ones I
used to attach my depth finder's sender show no signs of corrosion at all,
or any adverse interaction with the aluminum hull.

Neither does mine on the Princecraft, but the bracket is non-magnetic
stainless as are the screws. I also sealed the hell out of it.

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On Apr 3, 7:03?am, "basskisser" wrote:
On Apr 2, 7:06 pm, "Tim" wrote:

basskisser wrote:

It's easier to use and find aluminum rivets than aluminum bolts, nuts
and washers. It's also easy to to wring off an aluminum bolt.

I'm sure it is easy "to to wring" off an aluminum bolt

Go buy some more friends, just like the little kid with candy.
Please enlighten the group on what you know about purchacing
friendship. and how to recognize the practice. You seem to know,,
because you accuse me of it.

If you
want to get into an intelligent discussion on metalurgy, let's go!

Why would I wish to discuss metalurgy with you? Especially after
making a profound statement like:

"It's also easy to to wring off an aluminum bolt."



But, I'll bet you just really want to be an ignorant child.


Cite? or are you simply posting out of ignorance?

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On Apr 1, 3:52?pm, "JimH" wrote:
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Hi all,

I have an old 14' Alumacraft boat. The boat does not have a
water
drain plug so if I leave it on the trailer it fills up with
water.
What I would like to do is add a drain plug to it. Has anyone
here
ever done that?

Thanks,

Dave

I have not installed one before but it is an easy $13 fix.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tempo...eiver-Kit_W0QQ...

http://tinyurl.com/2x9goh

What sort of screws would you recommend, Jim?

Actually I would think the installations calls for the use of nuts
and
bolts, not screws.

1. Stainless nuts and bolts. The bolt holes in the hull would be
oversized
so the bolts do not touch the hull. I would also use plastic sleeves
to
encase the bolts, ensuring no contact with the aluminum.

or

2. Aluminum nuts/bolts. I would then use JB Weld to reinforce the
outside
edges of the plug frame, both inside and outside the boat.

It is not a difficult fix Chuck.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim, what would be wrong about using simple, easy to find aluminum
rivets?

They can't be tightened when necessary. And, to make them watertight,
they'd
need as much fiddling with as nuts & bolts, so he may as well just use
nuts
& bolts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's easier to use and find aluminum rivets than aluminum bolts, nuts
and washers. It's also easy to to wring off an aluminum bolt.


Should SS hardware be OK, if the boat's only used in fresh water? The ones
I used to attach my depth finder's sender show no signs of corrosion at
all, or any adverse interaction with the aluminum hull.

I have had no problems with stainless hardware on my Lund after several
years.

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On Apr 1, 3:52?pm, "JimH" wrote:
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Hi all,

I have an old 14' Alumacraft boat. The boat does not have a
water
drain plug so if I leave it on the trailer it fills up with
water.
What I would like to do is add a drain plug to it. Has anyone
here
ever done that?

Thanks,

Dave

I have not installed one before but it is an easy $13 fix.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tempo...eiver-Kit_W0QQ...

http://tinyurl.com/2x9goh

What sort of screws would you recommend, Jim?

Actually I would think the installations calls for the use of nuts
and
bolts, not screws.

1. Stainless nuts and bolts. The bolt holes in the hull would be
oversized
so the bolts do not touch the hull. I would also use plastic
sleeves to
encase the bolts, ensuring no contact with the aluminum.

or

2. Aluminum nuts/bolts. I would then use JB Weld to reinforce the
outside
edges of the plug frame, both inside and outside the boat.

It is not a difficult fix Chuck.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim, what would be wrong about using simple, easy to find aluminum
rivets?

They can't be tightened when necessary. And, to make them watertight,
they'd
need as much fiddling with as nuts & bolts, so he may as well just use
nuts
& bolts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's easier to use and find aluminum rivets than aluminum bolts, nuts
and washers. It's also easy to to wring off an aluminum bolt.


Should SS hardware be OK, if the boat's only used in fresh water? The
ones I used to attach my depth finder's sender show no signs of corrosion
at all, or any adverse interaction with the aluminum hull.

I have had no problems with stainless hardware on my Lund after several
years.


Maybe it's because like my yacht, yours is a Lund, a yacht much better than
any other. And, you have exquisite taste in yachts. :-)

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Hi all,

I have an old 14' Alumacraft boat. The boat does not have a
water
drain plug so if I leave it on the trailer it fills up with
water.
What I would like to do is add a drain plug to it. Has anyone
here
ever done that?

Thanks,

Dave

I have not installed one before but it is an easy $13 fix.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tempo...eiver-Kit_W0QQ...

http://tinyurl.com/2x9goh

What sort of screws would you recommend, Jim?

Actually I would think the installations calls for the use of nuts
and
bolts, not screws.

1. Stainless nuts and bolts. The bolt holes in the hull would be
oversized
so the bolts do not touch the hull. I would also use plastic
sleeves to
encase the bolts, ensuring no contact with the aluminum.

or

2. Aluminum nuts/bolts. I would then use JB Weld to reinforce
the
outside
edges of the plug frame, both inside and outside the boat.

It is not a difficult fix Chuck.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim, what would be wrong about using simple, easy to find aluminum
rivets?

They can't be tightened when necessary. And, to make them watertight,
they'd
need as much fiddling with as nuts & bolts, so he may as well just use
nuts
& bolts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's easier to use and find aluminum rivets than aluminum bolts, nuts
and washers. It's also easy to to wring off an aluminum bolt.


Should SS hardware be OK, if the boat's only used in fresh water? The
ones I used to attach my depth finder's sender show no signs of
corrosion at all, or any adverse interaction with the aluminum hull.

I have had no problems with stainless hardware on my Lund after several
years.


Maybe it's because like my yacht, yours is a Lund, a yacht much better
than any other. And, you have exquisite taste in yachts. :-)

Never really thought of it as yacht (1900 Pro-V SE), but it's a great
fishing platform.

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I just wanted to say thanks to all who replied.

Thanks much!

Dave