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[email protected] March 21st 07 08:57 PM

Hey everyone! Can you PLEASE help?
 
Hi everyone!

My name is Elliott, and I am seeking the help of as many people as I
can get. I'm doing a school project at Boston University and we need
people to fill out a quick survey that will take about 3-4 minutes to
fill out regarding a new product for kayaks.

It is a special on-water training device. We are just trying to guage
the public's reaction to the product.

Thank you for any help you can give!

Survey link he

http://websurveyor.net/wsb.dll/34805/kayaksurvey.htm


Wilko March 21st 07 11:08 PM

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wrote:
Hi everyone!

My name is Elliott, and I am seeking the help of as many people as I
can get. I'm doing a school project at Boston University and we need
people to fill out a quick survey that will take about 3-4 minutes to
fill out regarding a new product for kayaks.

It is a special on-water training device. We are just trying to guage
the public's reaction to the product.

Thank you for any help you can give!

Survey link he

http://websurveyor.net/wsb.dll/34805/kayaksurvey.htm

Sorry Elliot, do yourself a favour and check out the subject "sponsons"
on in the rec.boats.paddle archive on groups.google.com... That might
give you a lot of the pro's and contra's of this kind of contraption as
well as the reason why that subject is hardly ever brought up on this
newsgroup any more.

I think that those sponsons have very little use in the real world,
although they might be useful in a few situations, IMO over all they
take away the skill and let people rely on something like that instead.

--
Wilko van den Bergh wilkoa t)dse(d o tnl
Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.---
http://kayaker.nl/

[email protected] March 21st 07 11:13 PM

Hey everyone! Can you PLEASE help?
 
Why hasn't anyone thought of this before!

You could call them something like, oh, I duuno, "Sponsons" maybe.

You would think the rbp crowd would be at least somewhat familiar with
this lifesaving concept.

;-)


On Mar 21, 4:57 pm, wrote:
Hi everyone!

My name is Elliott, and I am seeking the help of as many people as I
can get. I'm doing a school project at Boston University and we need
people to fill out a quick survey that will take about 3-4 minutes to
fill out regarding a new product for kayaks.

It is a special on-water training device. We are just trying to guage
the public's reaction to the product.

Thank you for any help you can give!

Survey link he

http://websurveyor.net/wsb.dll/34805/kayaksurvey.htm




Oci-One Kanubi March 22nd 07 01:59 PM

Hey everyone! Can you PLEASE help?
 
On Mar 21, 4:57 pm, wrote:
Hi everyone!

My name is Elliott, and I am seeking the help of as many people as I
can get. I'm doing a school project at Boston University and we need
people to fill out a quick survey that will take about 3-4 minutes to
fill out regarding a new product for kayaks.

It is a special on-water training device. We are just trying to guage
the public's reaction to the product.

Thank you for any help you can give!

Survey link he

http://websurveyor.net/wsb.dll/34805/kayaksurvey.htm


Elliott, get a new project. These things are notorious, because they
look like such a good idea to the uninitiated, but close examination
by experienced boaters of the hydrodynamic and stability effects, not
to mention the pschological implications of causing inexperienced
boaters to rely upon fallible equipment[1] rather than developing the
skills to deal with dangerous situations, show that these things are a
really, really bad idea.

You just don't want to associate yourself with something that turns
out, upon examination, to be very, very dangerous.

[1] Nothing inflatable is puncture-proof, and relying, possibly miles
from any help, on equipment that may fail, when you don't have the
skills to paddle safely without that peice of equipment, is terribly,
terribly dangerous.

-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
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Davej March 26th 07 05:32 AM

Hey everyone! Can you PLEASE help?
 
On Mar 21, 2:57 pm, wrote:

My name is Elliott, and I am seeking the help of as many people as I
can get. I'm doing a school project at Boston University and we need
people to fill out a quick survey that will take about 3-4 minutes to
fill out regarding a new product for kayaks.
[...]


Why does the survey seem to presume a favorable response, pretend this
is a "new" idea, include some ridiculous pricing ideas, and end with a
bunch of stupid questions? Why not just buy a wide boat and not a
kayak?


Brian Nystrom March 27th 07 12:45 AM

Hey everyone! Can you PLEASE help?
 
Davej wrote:
On Mar 21, 2:57 pm, wrote:
My name is Elliott, and I am seeking the help of as many people as I
can get. I'm doing a school project at Boston University and we need
people to fill out a quick survey that will take about 3-4 minutes to
fill out regarding a new product for kayaks.
[...]


Why does the survey seem to presume a favorable response, pretend this
is a "new" idea, include some ridiculous pricing ideas, and end with a
bunch of stupid questions? Why not just buy a wide boat and not a
kayak?


Probably because he's just a college kid. Hopefully, he's learning a
hard lesson in reality. Rule #1: Know your market.

Obviously, he doesn't...or at least he didn't. ;-)

[email protected] March 27th 07 08:31 PM

Hey everyone! Can you PLEASE help?
 
On Mar 26, 7:45 pm, Brian Nystrom wrote:
Probably because he's just a college kid. Hopefully, he's learning a
hard lesson in reality. Rule #1: Know your market.

Obviously, he doesn't...or at least he didn't. ;-)


My take was that it was a class in market research, and he was
doing...um...research on whether this product would make it in the
market. I took the survey and told him what I think of the product.
Did anyone else?

Steve



Wilko March 27th 07 08:53 PM

Hey everyone! Can you PLEASE help?
 
wrote:
On Mar 26, 7:45 pm, Brian Nystrom wrote:
Probably because he's just a college kid. Hopefully, he's learning a
hard lesson in reality. Rule #1: Know your market.

Obviously, he doesn't...or at least he didn't. ;-)


My take was that it was a class in market research, and he was
doing...um...research on whether this product would make it in the
market. I took the survey and told him what I think of the product.
Did anyone else?


Yep, I did. :-)

--
Wilko van den Bergh wilkoa t)dse(d o tnl
Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.---
http://kayaker.nl/

[email protected] March 28th 07 12:58 PM

Hey everyone! Can you PLEASE help?
 
I took the survey and told him what I think of the product.
Did anyone else?


Yep, I did. :-)


Me too. Although the phrase "freaking sponsons" kept appearing in my
responses.


Brian Nystrom March 28th 07 01:04 PM

Hey everyone! Can you PLEASE help?
 
Wilko wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 26, 7:45 pm, Brian Nystrom wrote:
Probably because he's just a college kid. Hopefully, he's learning a
hard lesson in reality. Rule #1: Know your market.

Obviously, he doesn't...or at least he didn't. ;-)


My take was that it was a class in market research, and he was
doing...um...research on whether this product would make it in the
market. I took the survey and told him what I think of the product.
Did anyone else?


Yep, I did. :-)

Me too. The question is, what will he do with the information? Does he
have so much invested in the idea that he'll refuse to recognize that
it's a farce and plow ahead undaunted by reality, or will he see the
light and write it off as a learning experience? Since he's a student,
one would hope it would be the latter. ;-)

I wonder if we'll ever know???


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