lanteen sails
 

On 12 Mar, 14:06, jg wrote:
Jewel wrote:
Anyone tell me how a vessel equipped with lanteen sails goes about without
dropping its sail and resetting it on the other side.
Many thanks

That's lateen. They generally just have a "bad tack" with the sail
pressed against the mast, but I'm sure I have seen dhows bring the base
of the yard around behind the mast so it sets right on either tack.

But it is well known that on the "bad tack" a Sunfish will actually
point higher than on the "good tack". This may not apply to a dhow.

Owen

lanteen sails
 

Owen McCall wrote:
On 12 Mar, 14:06, jg wrote:
Jewel wrote:
Anyone tell me how a vessel equipped with lanteen sails goes about without
dropping its sail and resetting it on the other side.
Many thanks
That's lateen. They generally just have a "bad tack" with the sail
pressed against the mast, but I'm sure I have seen dhows bring the base
of the yard around behind the mast so it sets right on either tack.

But it is well known that on the "bad tack" a Sunfish will actually
point higher than on the "good tack". This may not apply to a dhow.

Never seen a sunfish sail, but it makes sense they would point higher.
Whatever reason dhows might tack the yard, it's probably not performance.

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

toad wrote:
On 13 Mar, 19:39, Andy Champ wrote:
toad wrote:
I've just read a biography of Boudica.
While we are on the pedantry trail - two Cs, or else you can't misread
it as Boadicea.

Clue: It wasn't misread as Boadicea from an English language text.

The current English language spelling is as I wrote it. (http://
tinyurl.com/2rp6q2) Of course that's academic. Nobody knows if she
really existed. If she existed, nobody knows if she was really leader
of the rebellion or a smaller player. Nobody knows if Boudica was a
name or a title. Nobody knows how the name or title was spelt or what
it really meant. (Boudica probably translates as Victorious but nobody
knows.) Spellings of the name of the Iceni warrior Queen run into
dozens. Some completely unrecognizable as Boudica, some pretty
similar. Voudica is a similar one for instance.

In short, you can, with some credibility, spell the name/title of the
Iceni warrior Queen any way you wish. What you can't do with any
credibility is tell someone else how they should spell it.


Blimey! I'm outgunned!

I admit I haven't read the original sources. My understanding was that
Boadicea came out of a misreading of some 19th century academics
handwriting. This could easily be an urban legend - certainly Wikipedia
disagrees with me on that (and on the spelling...)

BTW Google hits count:
Boudicca 1,080,000
Boudica 260,000
Boadicea 324,000

which tends to say that "current English" is as I have it, even though
I'm wrong.

Still, this is Atrebates country, we wouldn't know about them Iceni lot...

Andy

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

Andy Champ wrote:
toad wrote:

On 13 Mar, 19:39, Andy Champ wrote:

toad wrote:

I've just read a biography of Boudica.

While we are on the pedantry trail - two Cs, or else you can't misread
it as Boadicea.


Clue: It wasn't misread as Boadicea from an English language text.

The current English language spelling is as I wrote it. (http://
tinyurl.com/2rp6q2) Of course that's academic. Nobody knows if she
really existed. If she existed, nobody knows if she was really leader
of the rebellion or a smaller player. Nobody knows if Boudica was a
name or a title. Nobody knows how the name or title was spelt or what
it really meant. (Boudica probably translates as Victorious but nobody
knows.) Spellings of the name of the Iceni warrior Queen run into
dozens. Some completely unrecognizable as Boudica, some pretty
similar. Voudica is a similar one for instance.

In short, you can, with some credibility, spell the name/title of the
Iceni warrior Queen any way you wish. What you can't do with any
credibility is tell someone else how they should spell it.


Blimey! I'm outgunned!

I admit I haven't read the original sources. My understanding was that
Boadicea came out of a misreading of some 19th century academics
handwriting. This could easily be an urban legend - certainly Wikipedia
disagrees with me on that (and on the spelling...)

BTW Google hits count:
Boudicca 1,080,000
Boudica 260,000
Boadicea 324,000

which tends to say that "current English" is as I have it, even though
I'm wrong.

Still, this is Atrebates country, we wouldn't know about them Iceni lot...

Andy

Wikipedia is not a reference source but a guide to possible reference
sources. Anyone can post anything there and some of what is there is not
accurate.
I am the reincarnation of Boadicea.

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

On 15 Mar, 20:19, Andy Champ wrote:
toad wrote:
On 13 Mar, 19:39, Andy Champ wrote:
toad wrote:
I've just read a biography of Boudica.
While we are on the pedantry trail - two Cs, or else you can't misread
it as Boadicea.

Clue: It wasn't misread as Boadicea from an English language text.
In short, you can, with some credibility, spell the name/title of the
Iceni warrior Queen any way you wish. What you can't do with any
credibility is tell someone else how they should spell it.

My understanding was that
Boadicea came out of a misreading of some 19th century academics
handwriting. This could easily be an urban legend - certainly Wikipedia
disagrees with me on that (and on the spelling...)

That's true apart from the date, but as a I said above, the mistake
was in translation _from_ ancient Latin. Hardly an indicator of modern
English.

which tends to say that "current English" is as I have it, even though
I'm wrong.

I didn't say you were wrong. _You_ were telling me _I_ was wrong.

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

toad wrote:

I didn't say you were wrong. _You_ were telling me _I_ was wrong.


Whoah, calm down. My knowledge of Latin is perhaps similar to Jennings:

"Latin is a language, as dead as dead can be. It killed the ancient
Romans, and now it's killing me".

Andy

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

"Andy Champ" wrote in message
...
toad wrote:

I didn't say you were wrong. _You_ were telling me _I_ was wrong.


Whoah, calm down. My knowledge of Latin is perhaps similar to Jennings:

"Latin is a language, as dead as dead can be. It killed the ancient
Romans, and now it's killing me".

Andy

Latin, you were lucky. Why, when I were a lad we had to cope with
Assyrian.......

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

On 19 Mar, 07:36, "Duncan Heenan"
wrote:
"Andy Champ" wrote in message

...

toad wrote:

I didn't say you were wrong. _You_ were telling me _I_ was wrong.

Whoah, calm down. My knowledge of Latin is perhaps similar to Jennings:

"Latin is a language, as dead as dead can be. It killed the ancient
Romans, and now it's killing me".

Andy

Latin, you were lucky. Why, when I were a lad we had to cope with
Assyrian.......

LOL! :-)

I used your "Pontius Pilot was taking flying lessons" at a birthday
bash the other week. V good.

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:36:49 +0000, Duncan Heenan wrote:

Latin, you were lucky. Why, when I were a lad we had to cope with
Assyrian.......

Assyrian? Assyrian? When I were a lad we had cuneiform tablets and Linear
B - we'd have been grateful for bloody Assyrian.

Ian

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

"Ian Johnston" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:36:49 +0000, Duncan Heenan wrote:

Latin, you were lucky. Why, when I were a lad we had to cope with
Assyrian.......

Assyrian? Assyrian? When I were a lad we had cuneiform tablets and Linear
B - we'd have been grateful for bloody Assyrian.

Ian

Aye! That Rosetta Stone were a right little cracker weren't she!?
I wonder what she's doing nowadays?

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

Ian Johnston wrote:

When I were a lad we had cuneiform tablets

Self-labelling pills? Neat!

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

"Duncan Heenan" wrote...


Latin, you were lucky. Why, when I were a lad we had to cope with
Assyrian.......

Assyrian? Assyrian? When I were a lad we had cuneiform tablets and Linear
B - we'd have been grateful for bloody Assyrian.

Aye! That Rosetta Stone were a right little cracker weren't she!?
I wonder what she's doing nowadays?

She was never the same after I hit her over the head with my club and
dragged her into my cave! She couldn't even understand the petroglyphs I
tried to teach her!

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:22:17 -0700, John Weiss wrote:

She couldn't even understand the petroglyphs I tried to teach her!

Weren't they renamed Leninglyphs for a while?

Ian

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

"Ian Johnston" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:22:17 -0700, John Weiss wrote:

She couldn't even understand the petroglyphs I tried to teach her!

Weren't they renamed Leninglyphs for a while?

Ian

So it's true! It was a St. Peters berg which sunk the Titanic. I knew it
couldn't have been the Icini, they always observed the rules of the woad..

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

Duncan Heenan wrote:
"Ian Johnston" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:22:17 -0700, John Weiss wrote:

She couldn't even understand the petroglyphs I tried to teach her!
Weren't they renamed Leninglyphs for a while?

Ian

So it's true! It was a St. Peters berg which sunk the Titanic. I knew it
couldn't have been the Icini, they always observed the rules of the woad..


Icini?

Hang on, I've been here... shut up Andy...

Andy

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

"Andy Champ" wrote in message
...
Duncan Heenan wrote:
"Ian Johnston" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:22:17 -0700, John Weiss wrote:

She couldn't even understand the petroglyphs I tried to teach her!
Weren't they renamed Leninglyphs for a while?

Ian

So it's true! It was a St. Peters berg which sunk the Titanic. I knew it
couldn't have been the Icini, they always observed the rules of the
woad..


Icini?

Hang on, I've been here... shut up Andy...

Andy

Mornington Crescent!

So.. what did the Romans do for us? (was lanteen sails)
 

Duncan Heenan wrote:
"Ian Johnston" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:22:17 -0700, John Weiss wrote:

She couldn't even understand the petroglyphs I tried to teach her!

Weren't they renamed Leninglyphs for a while?

Ian

So it's true! It was a St. Peters berg which sunk the Titanic. I knew
it couldn't have been the Icini, they always observed the rules of
the woad..


Duncan, You are a very funny and clever poster! Thank-you for several; good
belly laughs!

--
Sincerely,
Quilljar