1989 bayliner ciera 2455
 

Eisboch wrote:
I haven't followed this thread, but I am wondering why NADA is used. Years
ago I bought the BUC books and, if I recall correctly, their boat value
estimates are based on actual sales by region and by condition.

Eisboch


In my limited experience, NADA is used by broker's when they are buying
a used boat to justify their low ball offer.

1989 bayliner ciera 2455
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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I haven't followed this thread, but I am wondering why NADA is used.
Years ago I bought the BUC books and, if I recall correctly, their boat
value estimates are based on actual sales by region and by condition.

Eisboch



I agree. And your local library probably carries the last years edition.
They also offer an appraisal service for a fee.

1989 bayliner ciera 2455
 

Eisboch wrote:
I haven't followed this thread, but I am wondering why NADA is used. Years
ago I bought the BUC books and, if I recall correctly, their boat value
estimates are based on actual sales by region and by condition.

Eisboch

For an alternative to NADA did anybody ever use:

http://www.edmunds.com/

just curious how the values would compare...

1989 bayliner ciera 2455
 

On Mar 13, 5:32�am, "JimH" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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I haven't followed this thread, but I am wondering why NADA is used.
Years ago I bought the BUC *books and, if I recall correctly, their boat
value estimates are based on actual sales by region and by condition.

Eisboch

I agree. *And your local library probably carries the last years edition.
They also offer an appraisal service for a fee.

BUC is a little better than NADA.

In the last 10 years or so they have lost most access to the data that
once made them pretty reliable.

At one time, the customary data exchange and multiple listing service
for yacht brokers was called BUC.net. It was a pretty sweet deal for
BUC. When you logged on to check regional inventory, etc, you paid
something like $1 a minute to use the service. A busy brokerage office
might run up a bill of $20-$30 a day! Along came Yachtworld with the
broker's-only password protected side, Boatwizard that offered better
service for something under $200 a month when they first began.
(Yachtworld is now several hundred per month- maybe leaving the door
open for the next better mousetrap?). Most of the brokers got out of
BUC.net within a couple of years, and the service lost its data.

BUC does send out sheets to yacht brokers and asks them to report on
the
boats they have sold. There's not much incentive to do that, and it
probably gets put into the "when I get a round tuit" file much of the
time.

A word of caution on BUC. The regional differences are fixed
percentages that are supposed to apply across the board. Doesn't work
that smoothly in real life.
IIRC, there was a 15% add-on for boats in the Pacific NW. Boats do
sell for more money here than elsewhere as there is a lot of
opportunity to use them and the lack of intense sunlight for most of
the year keeps UV degradation to a minimum. That said, a good clean
trawler here will often bring 25% more than the "national average" for
the same vessel, while a picnic or lobster boat that would be very
popular on the East Coast probably will need to be heavily discounted
to sell at all......(exception seems to be the Grand Banks Eastbay
series).

Another tripping point with BUC is the "condition" tables. Everybody
always overestimtes the condition of their boat when they are selling,
and everybody always expects a *lot*, conditionwise, when buying. Far
too many sellers with a decently clean boat, (in the same shape that
most people who cared about their boat would keep it), add on for
"Bristol" condition when using BUC. Conversely, the typical buyer
looks for a reason to offer less and will try to bluff the seller by
stating that he only considers what might be the cleanest boat in the
world "average".

The dance of the buyer and seller goes on, and on, and on. :-)

1989 bayliner ciera 2455
 

At any rate...good luck with the new boat - enjoy!

"brian" wrote:
i have just purchased this boat for 10,000.00 from a privet
party. it
has the 5.8 cobra in it and trim tabs and what not. i am
looking for
any information on this boat as to the boat itself or the
engine and
outdrive. looking for any information that i can get regarding
the
safety of this boat. and what to look out for . i am having a
mechanic
look at it first before the deal is final. just wondering if
the is
any information out there regarding this boat/engine history
that
someone can help me with. it would be most apprecitated. this
is our
first BIG boat. we just upgraded from a 1850 bayliner 1999.
and used
the money to get this bigger one for the family and friends.
camping
and fun. also know what the top speed is on this as well. 351.
thanks
for any information you can provide. brian