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Bryan February 23rd 07 03:37 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are
expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! What's
the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?



Harry Krause February 23rd 07 03:50 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
Bryan wrote:
The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are
expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! What's
the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?




Dick Cheney's retirement fund.

Chuck Gould February 23rd 07 05:11 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On Feb 23, 7:37�am, "Bryan" wrote:
The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are
expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! *What's
the explanation for that? *Anyone know some facts?


When pressed for reasons, the only people in a position to know why
the prices of refined products fluctuate as they do (the oil companies
and their spokesmen) will always cite "supply and demand".

In a free market, that means the price will go up until overall
profits are suppressed by a decrease in demand. So far, regardless of
the price, we have
demonstrated that we will continue to demand as much as the refiners
choose to supply. With the passage of winter, there is less need to
keep prices down and avoid the political drama of "freezing granny out
of her house and home", and it's back to sock-it-to-us time for
discretionary uses like boating and vacation driving. The current
stock values of Big Oil are based on last year's record profits (Exxon
netted over $4 million an hour, 24/365) and unless investors can be
assured that such profits are sustainable the stock prices will fall.

But heck, where in the Bill of Rights does it say that we're entitled
to cheap gasoline and diesel? Given the same corner on the market and
the control of the entire chain of distribution from extracting raw
materials to retailing finished products that a handful of oil
companies enjoy, darn few people would be able to say that they
wouldn't do *exactly* the same thing that Big Oil has done the last
couple of years.

Expect another ugly year at the fuel dock, but the good news is that
it won't seem quite so bad as before because we're all becoming
accustomed to paying 50-cents a pint. :-)


JLH February 23rd 07 05:16 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:37:40 GMT, "Bryan" wrote:

The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are
expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! What's
the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?

Perhaps it's to provide for sick leave and pay to the unemployed homeless
flocking to the city to partake in the gay and NAMBLA parades therein.

Don White February 23rd 07 05:18 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bryan wrote:
The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices
are expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks!
What's the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?



Dick Cheney's retirement fund.


Gas went up overnight here by approx 10 cents a liter to $ 1.04 regular self
pumped..



MTV February 23rd 07 05:32 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
Bryan wrote:
The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are
expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! What's
the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?



That's too much unless there's a local refinery out or some such, like
increased taxes kicking in. Just watch the commodity exchange futures.
Unl regular is projected to increase only 10 cents by April, then creep
up more for the summer vacationers.

MTV

Bryan February 23rd 07 06:11 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

In a free market, that means the price will go up until overall
profits are suppressed by a decrease in demand. So far, regardless of
the price, we have
demonstrated that we will continue to demand as much as the refiners
choose to supply. With the passage of winter, there is less need to
keep prices down and avoid the political drama of "freezing granny out
of her house and home", and it's back to sock-it-to-us time for
discretionary uses like boating and vacation driving.

Chuck, it's going to hurt when we take our trailer vacation this summer and
it'll be more expensive for our summer boating, but it's my daily 110 mile
round trip commute to/from my paycheck that's going to hurt the most, not to
mention the increased cost of goods secondary to the once again increasing
gas prices.



HDinNY February 23rd 07 06:11 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
MTV wrote:

Bryan wrote:

The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas
prices are expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next
two weeks! What's the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?


That's too much unless there's a local refinery out or some such, like
increased taxes kicking in. Just watch the commodity exchange futures.
Unl regular is projected to increase only 10 cents by April, then creep
up more for the summer vacationers.

MTV


On CNBC at 1:10PM today, oil-60.83 and unl-1.744. We'll be traveling the
first week in April and I expect $2.50/gallon.
Hugh

Bryan February 23rd 07 06:12 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 

"JLH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:37:40 GMT, "Bryan" wrote:

The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices
are
expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks!
What's
the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?

Perhaps it's to provide for sick leave and pay to the unemployed homeless
flocking to the city to partake in the gay and NAMBLA parades therein.


JLH, oh never mind.



Wayne.B February 23rd 07 06:57 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On 23 Feb 2007 09:11:09 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Expect another ugly year at the fuel dock, but the good news is that
it won't seem quite so bad as before because we're all becoming
accustomed to paying 50-cents a pint. :-)


What a bargain, if we could only get a good beer for that...

There is a plus side to high energy prices that is not well understood
or appreciated:

1. Encouraging exploration for new sources of supply which are badly
needed.

2. Providing incentives for new research into alternative energy
sources which is the best long term solution.

3. High prices create a self imposed rationing system which tends to
weed out inefficient or unnecessary usage.

As an example of encouraging alternative energy sources, wind power is
on the verge of becoming economically viable even without subsidies.
Solar power is not there yet but the price of an installed watt has
dropped almost 90% in constant dollars over the last 30 years.

There has also been huge progress in battery technology which is
critical for electric automobiles (and possibly electric boats):

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...14/011211.html

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/070223/0219304.html

http://www.altairnano.com/


Steve Wolf February 23rd 07 07:04 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
How did that saying go? Something like, "You're getting screwed by an
elephant, it's supposed to hurt."



Bob February 23rd 07 07:07 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
:On CNBC at 1:10PM today, oil-60.83 and unl-1.744. We'll be traveling the
:first week in April and I expect $2.50/gallon.
:Hugh

I'd welcome $2.50/gallon...it's about $2.75 now in No. California.


Vic Smith February 23rd 07 07:21 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:57:53 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:



There has also been huge progress in battery technology which is
critical for electric automobiles (and possibly electric boats):

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...14/011211.html

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/070223/0219304.html

http://www.altairnano.com/


We need more nuke generating plants. That's like the elephant in the
room, and until we get out asses in gear building them we'll just
be spinning our wheels.
Right now that's the only clearly achievable target to get transport
running electric and lessen the pressure on petro in the near term.
But you hardly see anybody talking nukes.
Because there's absolutely no national leadership.
Pansies.
We need some Frenchies here to show our leaders how to grow some
balls.

--Vic

SnoMan February 23rd 07 08:58 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:11:09 -0500, HDinNY
wrote:


On CNBC at 1:10PM today, oil-60.83 and unl-1.744. We'll be traveling the
first week in April and I expect $2.50/gallon.



Cash trade price for gas is about 1.77/gal right now and march futures
runing about 1.76. April futures at about 1.82. Overall gas is up
about 25 cents on trades in last 2 weeks. Speculators are driving
prices up because oil has not increased that much and current cash
price for today is around 59.50 a barrel. You can thank Reagan for
this in that he opened up the futures market for oil products and it
generaly adds 10 to 15% to price for profit taking and a lot more when
they speculate.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Lon VanOstran February 23rd 07 09:35 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
Chuck Gould wrote:



Expect another ugly year at the fuel dock, but the good news is that
it won't seem quite so bad as before because we're all becoming
accustomed to paying 50-cents a pint. :-)


Last summer we were buying diesel at over $3.50 per gallon. Lately we've
been buying it for $2.29 per gallon, instead of the $5 per gallon that
left wing morons like Harry were predicting. How can anyone complain
about fuel prices this month?

Lon, who is delighted at how little it cost us to get from Quartzsite,
AZ back to this side of the Mississippi river.


Lon VanOstran February 23rd 07 09:41 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
Bob wrote:

:On CNBC at 1:10PM today, oil-60.83 and unl-1.744. We'll be traveling the
:first week in April and I expect $2.50/gallon.
:Hugh

I'd welcome $2.50/gallon...it's about $2.75 now in No. California.


We would welcome you in all of these other states where fuel is much
cheaper, so long as you don't bring the left wing politics which
produced those high prices in CA.

Lon

Harry Krause February 23rd 07 10:12 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
Lon VanOstran wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:



Expect another ugly year at the fuel dock, but the good news is that
it won't seem quite so bad as before because we're all becoming
accustomed to paying 50-cents a pint. :-)


Last summer we were buying diesel at over $3.50 per gallon. Lately we've
been buying it for $2.29 per gallon, instead of the $5 per gallon that
left wing morons like Harry were predicting. How can anyone complain
about fuel prices this month?

Lon, who is delighted at how little it cost us to get from Quartzsite,
AZ back to this side of the Mississippi river.



So, show us, Mr. Drooler, where I predicted that diesel would be selling
for $5.00 a gallon? Or are you just naturally retarded?

Carl A. February 23rd 07 10:37 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lon VanOstran wrote:

Last summer we were buying diesel at over $3.50 per gallon. Lately we've
been buying it for $2.29 per gallon, instead of the $5 per gallon that
left wing morons like Harry were predicting. How can anyone complain
about fuel prices this month?

Lon, who is delighted at how little it cost us to get from Quartzsite, AZ
back to this side of the Mississippi river.



So, show us, Mr. Drooler, where I predicted that diesel would be selling
for $5.00 a gallon? Or are you just naturally retarded?




You're not the only Harry around here. We also have a couple of Toms, and
many Dicks.
--
Carl A. in FL
Photojournals of my travels are at
http://sky.prohosting.com/chainfl/



Harry Krause February 23rd 07 10:45 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
Carl A. wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lon VanOstran wrote:
Last summer we were buying diesel at over $3.50 per gallon. Lately we've
been buying it for $2.29 per gallon, instead of the $5 per gallon that
left wing morons like Harry were predicting. How can anyone complain
about fuel prices this month?

Lon, who is delighted at how little it cost us to get from Quartzsite, AZ
back to this side of the Mississippi river.


So, show us, Mr. Drooler, where I predicted that diesel would be selling
for $5.00 a gallon? Or are you just naturally retarded?




You're not the only Harry around here. We also have a couple of Toms, and
many Dicks.



And a "Lon" or two, eh?

Lost In Space/Woodchuck February 23rd 07 10:53 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
SUMMER IS COMING! And Bush needs more money



"Bryan" wrote in message
. ..
The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices
are expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks!
What's the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?




Lon VanOstran February 23rd 07 11:42 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
Harry Krause wrote:

Lon VanOstran wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:



Expect another ugly year at the fuel dock, but the good news is that
it won't seem quite so bad as before because we're all becoming
accustomed to paying 50-cents a pint. :-)


Last summer we were buying diesel at over $3.50 per gallon. Lately
we've been buying it for $2.29 per gallon, instead of the $5 per
gallon that left wing morons like Harry were predicting. How can
anyone complain about fuel prices this month?

Lon, who is delighted at how little it cost us to get from Quartzsite,
AZ back to this side of the Mississippi river.



So, show us, Mr. Drooler, where I predicted that diesel would be selling
for $5.00 a gallon? Or are you just naturally retarded?


You must be new here. Either that, or Harry Everhardt has come back with
a new name. I haven't given you enough respect to accuse you of ANYTHING.

Lon

Lon VanOstran February 23rd 07 11:45 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
Carl A. wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Lon VanOstran wrote:

Last summer we were buying diesel at over $3.50 per gallon. Lately we've
been buying it for $2.29 per gallon, instead of the $5 per gallon that
left wing morons like Harry were predicting. How can anyone complain
about fuel prices this month?

Lon, who is delighted at how little it cost us to get from Quartzsite, AZ
back to this side of the Mississippi river.



So, show us, Mr. Drooler, where I predicted that diesel would be selling
for $5.00 a gallon? Or are you just naturally retarded?





You're not the only Harry around here. We also have a couple of Toms, and
many Dicks.


It seems that at least one of the Harrys is also a Dick.

Lon

RCE February 24th 07 12:23 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 

"Lon VanOstran" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

Lon VanOstran wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:



Expect another ugly year at the fuel dock, but the good news is that
it won't seem quite so bad as before because we're all becoming
accustomed to paying 50-cents a pint. :-)


Last summer we were buying diesel at over $3.50 per gallon. Lately we've
been buying it for $2.29 per gallon, instead of the $5 per gallon that
left wing morons like Harry were predicting. How can anyone complain
about fuel prices this month?

Lon, who is delighted at how little it cost us to get from Quartzsite,
AZ back to this side of the Mississippi river.



So, show us, Mr. Drooler, where I predicted that diesel would be selling
for $5.00 a gallon? Or are you just naturally retarded?


You must be new here. Either that, or Harry Everhardt has come back with a
new name. I haven't given you enough respect to accuse you of ANYTHING.

Lon




You two have your NG wires crossed.

Eisboch



Lon VanOstran February 24th 07 01:09 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
RCE wrote:

"Lon VanOstran" wrote in message
...

Harry Krause wrote:


Lon VanOstran wrote:


Chuck Gould wrote:



Expect another ugly year at the fuel dock, but the good news is that
it won't seem quite so bad as before because we're all becoming
accustomed to paying 50-cents a pint. :-)


Last summer we were buying diesel at over $3.50 per gallon. Lately we've
been buying it for $2.29 per gallon, instead of the $5 per gallon that
left wing morons like Harry were predicting. How can anyone complain
about fuel prices this month?

Lon, who is delighted at how little it cost us to get from Quartzsite,
AZ back to this side of the Mississippi river.



So, show us, Mr. Drooler, where I predicted that diesel would be selling
for $5.00 a gallon? Or are you just naturally retarded?


You must be new here. Either that, or Harry Everhardt has come back with a
new name. I haven't given you enough respect to accuse you of ANYTHING.

Lon





You two have your NG wires crossed.

Eisboch



Not us two. I know that Harry whateverhisnameis (Krause) isn't Harry
Everhardt. He jumped on me without having even the slightest idea who or
what I was talking about. I hadn't even responded to one of his posts.

Lon

Bob V February 24th 07 01:12 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
. ..
: The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices
are
: expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks!
What's
: the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?

Probably because they're switching from winter blend to summer blend,
although March does seem a bit early. Maybe they're believing in Phil that
there will be an early spring.




Janet Wilder February 24th 07 01:37 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
Bob V wrote:
"Bryan" wrote in message
. ..
: The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices
are
: expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks!
What's
: the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?

Probably because they're switching from winter blend to summer blend,
although March does seem a bit early. Maybe they're believing in Phil that
there will be an early spring.



We paid $2.03 last week. Today it's up to $2.19. There's no such thing
as "winter blend" or "summer blend" here.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Chuck Gould February 24th 07 01:51 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On Feb 23, 1:35?pm, Lon VanOstran wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

Expect another ugly year at the fuel dock, but the good news is that
it won't seem quite so bad as before because we're all becoming
accustomed to paying 50-cents a pint. :-)


Last summer we were buying diesel at over $3.50 per gallon. Lately we've
been buying it for $2.29 per gallon, instead of the $5 per gallon that
left wing morons like Harry were predicting. How can anyone complain
about fuel prices this month?

Lon, who is delighted at how little it cost us to get from Quartzsite,
AZ back to this side of the Mississippi river.


Went to the fuel dock today with a brand new 36-foot Sea Ray Sedan
Bridge.
(new model for 2007). 60 gallons of gas for our test runs cost the
dealer $211.
And it's still February.


Chuck Gould February 24th 07 02:05 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On Feb 23, 10:11?am, HDinNY wrote:


On CNBC at 1:10PM today, oil-60.83 and unl-1.744. We'll be traveling the
first week in April and I expect $2.50/gallon.
Hugh


Those futures prices are based on wholesale, correct?

Add the state and federal taxes and the retail markups and you will be
nowhere near $1.74/gallon. In our region we enjoy "zone" pricing, a
system in which the refiner sends out a tanker truck to various
company owned filling stations and the same gas, from the same truck,
sold at different locations by the same parent company will vary by
40-50 cents per gallon between one side of town and another. It's
crazy, but as long as they can sell all the fuel they choose to refine
it will remain so..

I paid $2.85/gallon for 92 octane unleaded this afternoon. To be
fair, that was at a station not usually known for its low prices,
(last chance before getting onto the freeway).





Wayne.B February 24th 07 02:42 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On 23 Feb 2007 17:51:02 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Went to the fuel dock today with a brand new 36-foot Sea Ray Sedan
Bridge.
(new model for 2007). 60 gallons of gas for our test runs cost the
dealer $211.
And it's still February.


So where did you go with 80 minutes of fuel ?


D.Duck February 24th 07 03:06 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 

"Bob V" wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
. ..
: The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices
are
: expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks!
What's
: the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?

Probably because they're switching from winter blend to summer blend,
although March does seem a bit early. Maybe they're believing in Phil
that
there will be an early spring.


Iran, Iraq, lower than expected US reserves, and......greed.



bill horne February 24th 07 05:45 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
HDinNY wrote:
MTV wrote:

Bryan wrote:

The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas
prices are expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next
two weeks! What's the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?


That's too much unless there's a local refinery out or some such, like
increased taxes kicking in. Just watch the commodity exchange futures.
Unl regular is projected to increase only 10 cents by April, then
creep up more for the summer vacationers.

MTV


On CNBC at 1:10PM today, oil-60.83 and unl-1.744. We'll be traveling the
first week in April and I expect $2.50/gallon.
Hugh


On my Apr-May trip last year, I paid an average of $2.82 per gallon.
I welcome $2.50 per gallon.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

bill horne February 24th 07 05:51 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 23, 10:11?am, HDinNY wrote:

On CNBC at 1:10PM today, oil-60.83 and unl-1.744. We'll be traveling the
first week in April and I expect $2.50/gallon.
Hugh


Those futures prices are based on wholesale, correct?

Add the state and federal taxes and the retail markups and you will be
nowhere near $1.74/gallon. In our region we enjoy "zone" pricing, a
system in which the refiner sends out a tanker truck to various
company owned filling stations and the same gas, from the same truck,
sold at different locations by the same parent company will vary by
40-50 cents per gallon between one side of town and another. It's
crazy, but as long as they can sell all the fuel they choose to refine
it will remain so..

I paid $2.85/gallon for 92 octane unleaded this afternoon. To be
fair, that was at a station not usually known for its low prices,
(last chance before getting onto the freeway).


I paid $2.05 for reg today at the Eastman WalMart. But based on
prices in Warner Robins, and other places in Eastman, it'll probably
go up 5-10 cents here in the next few days. I hope I'm wrong, though.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

THE NET WATCHER February 24th 07 09:03 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On Feb 23, 7:37 am, "Bryan" wrote:
The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are
expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! What's
the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?


9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

ONE WORD:

G-R-E-E-D


THE NET WATCHER February 24th 07 09:04 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On Feb 23, 9:11 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Feb 23, 7:37?am, "Bryan" wrote:

The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are
expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! ?What's
the explanation for that? ?Anyone know some facts?


When pressed for reasons, the only people in a position to know why
the prices of refined products fluctuate as they do (the oil companies
and their spokesmen) will always cite "supply and demand".

In a free market, that means the price will go up until overall
profits are suppressed by a decrease in demand. So far, regardless of
the price, we have
demonstrated that we will continue to demand as much as the refiners
choose to supply. With the passage of winter, there is less need to
keep prices down and avoid the political drama of "freezing granny out
of her house and home", and it's back to sock-it-to-us time for
discretionary uses like boating and vacation driving. The current
stock values of Big Oil are based on last year's record profits (Exxon
netted over $4 million an hour, 24/365) and unless investors can be
assured that such profits are sustainable the stock prices will fall.

But heck, where in the Bill of Rights does it say that we're entitled
to cheap gasoline and diesel? Given the same corner on the market and
the control of the entire chain of distribution from extracting raw
materials to retailing finished products that a handful of oil
companies enjoy, darn few people would be able to say that they
wouldn't do *exactly* the same thing that Big Oil has done the last
couple of years.

Expect another ugly year at the fuel dock, but the good news is that
it won't seem quite so bad as before because we're all becoming
accustomed to paying 50-cents a pint. :-)


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BULL****, THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE...ONE WORD:

G-R-E-E-D


THE NET WATCHER February 24th 07 09:12 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On Feb 23, 9:32 am, MTV wrote:
Bryan wrote:
The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are
expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! What's
the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts?


That's too much unless there's a local refinery out or some such, like
increased taxes kicking in. Just watch the commodity exchange futures.
Unl regular is projected to increase only 10 cents by April, then creep
up more for the summer vacationers.

MTV


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HORSE PUCKEY, THE ANSWER IS ONE WORD:

G-R-E-E-D


Chuck Gould February 24th 07 10:47 AM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On Feb 23, 6:42?pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On 23 Feb 2007 17:51:02 -0800, "Chuck Gould"

wrote:
Went to the fuel dock today with a brand new 36-foot Sea Ray Sedan
Bridge.
(new model for 2007). 60 gallons of gas for our test runs cost the
dealer $211.
And it's still February.


So where did you go with 80 minutes of fuel ?


Idled from Lake Union to Lake Washington, ran at a variety of speeds
in two different directions for 15-20 minutes, idled back. Will have
to research the fuel burn on a pair of 8.1L Mercruisers. Boat rode
great in a slight chop, (15 knot winds yesterday), and will be a good
choice for somebody who values performance more than miserly fuel
consumption.


BAR February 24th 07 12:59 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
THE NET WATCHER wrote:
On Feb 23, 9:11 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Feb 23, 7:37?am, "Bryan" wrote:

The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are
expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! ?What's
the explanation for that? ?Anyone know some facts?

When pressed for reasons, the only people in a position to know why
the prices of refined products fluctuate as they do (the oil companies
and their spokesmen) will always cite "supply and demand".

In a free market, that means the price will go up until overall
profits are suppressed by a decrease in demand. So far, regardless of
the price, we have
demonstrated that we will continue to demand as much as the refiners
choose to supply. With the passage of winter, there is less need to
keep prices down and avoid the political drama of "freezing granny out
of her house and home", and it's back to sock-it-to-us time for
discretionary uses like boating and vacation driving. The current
stock values of Big Oil are based on last year's record profits (Exxon
netted over $4 million an hour, 24/365) and unless investors can be
assured that such profits are sustainable the stock prices will fall.

But heck, where in the Bill of Rights does it say that we're entitled
to cheap gasoline and diesel? Given the same corner on the market and
the control of the entire chain of distribution from extracting raw
materials to retailing finished products that a handful of oil
companies enjoy, darn few people would be able to say that they
wouldn't do *exactly* the same thing that Big Oil has done the last
couple of years.

Expect another ugly year at the fuel dock, but the good news is that
it won't seem quite so bad as before because we're all becoming
accustomed to paying 50-cents a pint. :-)


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Lon VanOstran February 24th 07 01:34 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
Chuck Gould wrote:

Will have
to research the fuel burn on a pair of 8.1L Mercruisers. Boat rode
great in a slight chop, (15 knot winds yesterday), and will be a good
choice for somebody who values performance more than miserly fuel
consumption.


At full throttle, each engine should burn about 9-12 gallons of fuel per
hour. Considerably less at half throttle. That boat displaces a LOT of
water.

Lon

Frank Tabor February 24th 07 02:51 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:59:18 -0500, BAR wrote:

THE NET WATCHER wrote:
On Feb 23, 9:11 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Feb 23, 7:37?am, "Bryan" wrote:


Do you give back half of your paycheck? If not, you being a halfwit,
should start.



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Wayne.B February 24th 07 03:00 PM

Gas Price Increase, 40 cents per gallon next two weeks?
 
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:34:39 -0600, Lon VanOstran
wrote:

At full throttle, each engine should burn about 9-12 gallons of fuel per
hour. Considerably less at half throttle. That boat displaces a LOT of
water.


Those numbers are way low, these are gas engines not diesel. My 6.2L
MPI burns 15 gph at full cruise (3400 RPM).

17 to 20 gph each at full cruising speed, 30+ at WOT.



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