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HDinNY wrote:
MTV wrote: Bryan wrote: The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! What's the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts? That's too much unless there's a local refinery out or some such, like increased taxes kicking in. Just watch the commodity exchange futures. Unl regular is projected to increase only 10 cents by April, then creep up more for the summer vacationers. MTV On CNBC at 1:10PM today, oil-60.83 and unl-1.744. We'll be traveling the first week in April and I expect $2.50/gallon. Hugh On my Apr-May trip last year, I paid an average of $2.82 per gallon. I welcome $2.50 per gallon. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work. |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 23, 10:11?am, HDinNY wrote: On CNBC at 1:10PM today, oil-60.83 and unl-1.744. We'll be traveling the first week in April and I expect $2.50/gallon. Hugh Those futures prices are based on wholesale, correct? Add the state and federal taxes and the retail markups and you will be nowhere near $1.74/gallon. In our region we enjoy "zone" pricing, a system in which the refiner sends out a tanker truck to various company owned filling stations and the same gas, from the same truck, sold at different locations by the same parent company will vary by 40-50 cents per gallon between one side of town and another. It's crazy, but as long as they can sell all the fuel they choose to refine it will remain so.. I paid $2.85/gallon for 92 octane unleaded this afternoon. To be fair, that was at a station not usually known for its low prices, (last chance before getting onto the freeway). I paid $2.05 for reg today at the Eastman WalMart. But based on prices in Warner Robins, and other places in Eastman, it'll probably go up 5-10 cents here in the next few days. I hope I'm wrong, though. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work. |
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On Feb 23, 7:37 am, "Bryan" wrote:
The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! What's the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts? 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 ONE WORD: G-R-E-E-D |
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On Feb 23, 9:11 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Feb 23, 7:37?am, "Bryan" wrote: The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! ?What's the explanation for that? ?Anyone know some facts? When pressed for reasons, the only people in a position to know why the prices of refined products fluctuate as they do (the oil companies and their spokesmen) will always cite "supply and demand". In a free market, that means the price will go up until overall profits are suppressed by a decrease in demand. So far, regardless of the price, we have demonstrated that we will continue to demand as much as the refiners choose to supply. With the passage of winter, there is less need to keep prices down and avoid the political drama of "freezing granny out of her house and home", and it's back to sock-it-to-us time for discretionary uses like boating and vacation driving. The current stock values of Big Oil are based on last year's record profits (Exxon netted over $4 million an hour, 24/365) and unless investors can be assured that such profits are sustainable the stock prices will fall. But heck, where in the Bill of Rights does it say that we're entitled to cheap gasoline and diesel? Given the same corner on the market and the control of the entire chain of distribution from extracting raw materials to retailing finished products that a handful of oil companies enjoy, darn few people would be able to say that they wouldn't do *exactly* the same thing that Big Oil has done the last couple of years. Expect another ugly year at the fuel dock, but the good news is that it won't seem quite so bad as before because we're all becoming accustomed to paying 50-cents a pint. :-) 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 BULL****, THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE...ONE WORD: G-R-E-E-D |
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On Feb 23, 9:32 am, MTV wrote:
Bryan wrote: The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! What's the explanation for that? Anyone know some facts? That's too much unless there's a local refinery out or some such, like increased taxes kicking in. Just watch the commodity exchange futures. Unl regular is projected to increase only 10 cents by April, then creep up more for the summer vacationers. MTV 7777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 HORSE PUCKEY, THE ANSWER IS ONE WORD: G-R-E-E-D |
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On Feb 23, 6:42?pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On 23 Feb 2007 17:51:02 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Went to the fuel dock today with a brand new 36-foot Sea Ray Sedan Bridge. (new model for 2007). 60 gallons of gas for our test runs cost the dealer $211. And it's still February. So where did you go with 80 minutes of fuel ? Idled from Lake Union to Lake Washington, ran at a variety of speeds in two different directions for 15-20 minutes, idled back. Will have to research the fuel burn on a pair of 8.1L Mercruisers. Boat rode great in a slight chop, (15 knot winds yesterday), and will be a good choice for somebody who values performance more than miserly fuel consumption. |
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THE NET WATCHER wrote:
On Feb 23, 9:11 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote: On Feb 23, 7:37?am, "Bryan" wrote: The news ticker tape just said that Bay Area (San Francisco) gas prices are expected to increase by 40 cents per gallon over the next two weeks! ?What's the explanation for that? ?Anyone know some facts? When pressed for reasons, the only people in a position to know why the prices of refined products fluctuate as they do (the oil companies and their spokesmen) will always cite "supply and demand". In a free market, that means the price will go up until overall profits are suppressed by a decrease in demand. So far, regardless of the price, we have demonstrated that we will continue to demand as much as the refiners choose to supply. With the passage of winter, there is less need to keep prices down and avoid the political drama of "freezing granny out of her house and home", and it's back to sock-it-to-us time for discretionary uses like boating and vacation driving. The current stock values of Big Oil are based on last year's record profits (Exxon netted over $4 million an hour, 24/365) and unless investors can be assured that such profits are sustainable the stock prices will fall. But heck, where in the Bill of Rights does it say that we're entitled to cheap gasoline and diesel? Given the same corner on the market and the control of the entire chain of distribution from extracting raw materials to retailing finished products that a handful of oil companies enjoy, darn few people would be able to say that they wouldn't do *exactly* the same thing that Big Oil has done the last couple of years. Expect another ugly year at the fuel dock, but the good news is that it won't seem quite so bad as before because we're all becoming accustomed to paying 50-cents a pint. :-) 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 BULL****, THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE...ONE WORD: G-R-E-E-D Do you give back half of your paycheck? If not, you being a halfwit, should start. |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
Will have to research the fuel burn on a pair of 8.1L Mercruisers. Boat rode great in a slight chop, (15 knot winds yesterday), and will be a good choice for somebody who values performance more than miserly fuel consumption. At full throttle, each engine should burn about 9-12 gallons of fuel per hour. Considerably less at half throttle. That boat displaces a LOT of water. Lon |
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:59:18 -0500, BAR wrote:
THE NET WATCHER wrote: On Feb 23, 9:11 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote: On Feb 23, 7:37?am, "Bryan" wrote: Do you give back half of your paycheck? If not, you being a halfwit, should start. \|||/ (o o) ,----ooO--(_)-------. | Please | | don't feed the | | TROLL's ! | '--------------Ooo--' |__|__| || || ooO Ooo -- Frank Tabor Men will **** mud. -- Lenny Bruce |
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:34:39 -0600, Lon VanOstran
wrote: At full throttle, each engine should burn about 9-12 gallons of fuel per hour. Considerably less at half throttle. That boat displaces a LOT of water. Those numbers are way low, these are gas engines not diesel. My 6.2L MPI burns 15 gph at full cruise (3400 RPM). 17 to 20 gph each at full cruising speed, 30+ at WOT. |
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