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[email protected] February 9th 07 02:47 AM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
Hello,
I have a 24 foot I/O and I am wondering if this would be capable
of travelling from Miami to the Bahamas. The boat holds 68 gallons of
gas which should be enough, but I am thinking it might just be too
small to handle the voyage.

Anybody with experience or opinions about making the voyage on a 24
footer?

thanks,
daniel


Josh Assing February 9th 07 03:24 AM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
Pick your time & plan well; you can do it; I have friends that did it on 16'
sailboats.


On 8 Feb 2007 18:47:06 -0800, wrote:

Hello,
I have a 24 foot I/O and I am wondering if this would be capable
of travelling from Miami to the Bahamas. The boat holds 68 gallons of
gas which should be enough, but I am thinking it might just be too
small to handle the voyage.

Anybody with experience or opinions about making the voyage on a 24
footer?

thanks,
daniel



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Mike February 9th 07 04:34 AM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
The boat holds 68 gallons of
gas which should be enough

The word 'should' in that sentence would probably scare me away from trying
it. I suppose you could bring extra fuel along.

--Mike

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello,
I have a 24 foot I/O and I am wondering if this would be capable
of travelling from Miami to the Bahamas. The boat holds 68 gallons of
gas which should be enough, but I am thinking it might just be too
small to handle the voyage.

Anybody with experience or opinions about making the voyage on a 24
footer?

thanks,
daniel




sherwindu February 9th 07 07:30 AM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
The thing you should watch out for is wind direction. Any wind coming out of
the
north is going to be opposed to the Gulf Stream current flowing north, creating
very
steep, uncomfortable, and possibly unsafe wave action. The winds usually clock
around clockwise. I never crossed the Stream with any wind coming from the
North, Northeast, or Northwest. These winds tend to clock around quickly, so
you
may only have a one day window to jump across. To be safe, I would start off
with
a SE wind for a slower sailboat. A power boat could push it a bit more and
leave
with say a South wind. I have sat in Florida and the Bahamas sometimes for over
a
week waiting for the wind to clock around. Sometimes in the summer the stream
can be flat as a pancake, but you never know. Allow for about 2 1/2 knots
average
north offset when setting your course, wait for the right weather and you should
be
OK. Don't overload your boat, but bring plenty of fuel, water, and supplies as
these
are a premium in the Bahamas.

Sherwin D.

wrote:

Hello,
I have a 24 foot I/O and I am wondering if this would be capable
of travelling from Miami to the Bahamas. The boat holds 68 gallons of
gas which should be enough, but I am thinking it might just be too
small to handle the voyage.

Anybody with experience or opinions about making the voyage on a 24
footer?

thanks,
daniel



JLH February 9th 07 11:59 AM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
On 8 Feb 2007 18:47:06 -0800, wrote:

Hello,
I have a 24 foot I/O and I am wondering if this would be capable
of travelling from Miami to the Bahamas. The boat holds 68 gallons of
gas which should be enough, but I am thinking it might just be too
small to handle the voyage.

Anybody with experience or opinions about making the voyage on a 24
footer?

thanks,
daniel


Go find and read everything in this thread:

"Subject: How far offshore would be reasonable from the Jersey shore? '98
Sea Ray Sundancer 25' "

Lots of good information there.
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

RCE February 9th 07 12:25 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"JLH" wrote in message
...
On 8 Feb 2007 18:47:06 -0800, wrote:

Hello,
I have a 24 foot I/O and I am wondering if this would be capable
of travelling from Miami to the Bahamas. The boat holds 68 gallons of
gas which should be enough, but I am thinking it might just be too
small to handle the voyage.

Anybody with experience or opinions about making the voyage on a 24
footer?

thanks,
daniel


Go find and read everything in this thread:

"Subject: How far offshore would be reasonable from the Jersey shore? '98
Sea Ray Sundancer 25' "

Lots of good information there.



Most experienced boaters that cross over, even in much larger boats, rely on
daily updates of the crossing conditions, particularly in the winter months.
Seas can be gentle swells until you hit the Gulf Stream where you are
suddenly in 6-8 footers. On other days the stream can be relatively calm.

When I was in Jupiter, those planning the crossing would meet up down by
Peanut Island, wait for a good day and conditions, then all cross over
together.

Eisboch



Don White February 9th 07 02:25 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"Mike" wrote in message
. net...
The boat holds 68 gallons of

gas which should be enough

The word 'should' in that sentence would probably scare me away from
trying it. I suppose you could bring extra fuel along.

--Mike


Too bad Skipper isn't still around. He could advise how to lash numerous
jerry cans of fuel to the deck.



JoeSpareBedroom February 9th 07 03:00 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello,
I have a 24 foot I/O and I am wondering if this would be capable
of travelling from Miami to the Bahamas. The boat holds 68 gallons of
gas which should be enough, but I am thinking it might just be too
small to handle the voyage.

Anybody with experience or opinions about making the voyage on a 24
footer?

thanks,
daniel



How far is it?



Don White February 9th 07 03:11 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello,
I have a 24 foot I/O and I am wondering if this would be capable
of travelling from Miami to the Bahamas. The boat holds 68 gallons of
gas which should be enough, but I am thinking it might just be too
small to handle the voyage.

Anybody with experience or opinions about making the voyage on a 24
footer?

thanks,
daniel



How far is it?


In the Boating Course at the Power Squadron they instructed us to figure out
how much fuel you would burn to travel to the destination and then multiply
by 3x.
This would cover the trip back and any minor delays/problems encountered.



JoeSpareBedroom February 9th 07 03:12 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello,
I have a 24 foot I/O and I am wondering if this would be capable
of travelling from Miami to the Bahamas. The boat holds 68 gallons of
gas which should be enough, but I am thinking it might just be too
small to handle the voyage.

Anybody with experience or opinions about making the voyage on a 24
footer?

thanks,
daniel



How far is it?


In the Boating Course at the Power Squadron they instructed us to figure
out how much fuel you would burn to travel to the destination and then
multiply by 3x.
This would cover the trip back and any minor delays/problems encountered.



Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in this
trip:

In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much fuel
you would burn?



[email protected] February 9th 07 04:00 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
On Feb 8, 10:24 pm, Josh Assing wrote:

Pick your time & plan well; you can do it; I have friends that did it on 16'
sailboats.


I have friends that did it (I did too!) on pwc's! (Not from Miami,
more like from Ft. Lauderdale, left from Lake Worth Inlet to west end
of Grand Bahama Island.) That was in '99, I made the crossing without
having to fuel up with any of the extra spare gas I'd brought; the 4-
stroke I have now would come extremely close to being able to make the
trip there and back on a tank (I'd still bring along some extra
obviously).

richforman


Don White February 9th 07 04:18 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in
this trip:

In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much fuel
you would burn?

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is the
single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour, a marine
engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In practical
terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat will give about
1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger engines use more;
diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel when travelling against
a head wind and adverse current. If possible, the up-wind and up-current leg
of a journey should be completed first, as it is then easier to return. A
good maxim for fuelling is one-third out, one-third back, and one-third in
reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



JoeSpareBedroom February 9th 07 04:20 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in
this trip:

In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is the
single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour, a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible, the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time it
was.



JLH February 9th 07 05:56 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:20:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in
this trip:

In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is the
single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour, a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible, the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time it
was.


Don appears to be suffering from the JimH syndrome - unable to comprehend.

Don - How far is it?
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

JoeSpareBedroom February 9th 07 05:58 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
"JLH" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:20:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in
this trip:

In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is
the
single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour, a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible,
the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time it
was.


Don appears to be suffering from the JimH syndrome - unable to comprehend.

Don - How far is it?



Average: 10-12 pounds, although free range turkeys are often smaller.



Calif Bill February 9th 07 06:22 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"JLH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:20:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in
this trip:

In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is
the
single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour, a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible,
the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time it
was.


Don appears to be suffering from the JimH syndrome - unable to comprehend.

Don - How far is it?
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H


I think it is 50-60 miles.



Eisboch February 9th 07 06:23 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"JLH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:20:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in
this trip:

In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is
the
single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour, a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible,
the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time it
was.


Don appears to be suffering from the JimH syndrome - unable to comprehend.

Don - How far is it?




It's not too far.

A small boat can make it if it has enough gas. Or a sail. Or oars.

Eisboch



Reginald P. Smithers III February 9th 07 06:31 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"JLH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:20:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in
this trip:

In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is
the
single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour, a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible,
the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.


Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time it
was.

Don appears to be suffering from the JimH syndrome - unable to comprehend.

Don - How far is it?
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H


I think it is 50-60 miles.


50 miles from Miami.

Don White February 9th 07 06:33 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in
this trip:

*In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?*

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is
the single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour, a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible, the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time it
was.


Boy... you are argumentative...
Wasn't your second question...*"In the boating course, how did they instruct
you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?"*



Don White February 9th 07 06:34 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"JLH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:20:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in
this trip:

In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is
the
single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour, a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible,
the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time it
was.


Don appears to be suffering from the JimH syndrome - unable to comprehend.

Don - How far is it?
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H


Y'all live a lot closer than I do....you tell him!



JoeSpareBedroom February 9th 07 06:40 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in
this trip:

*In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?*

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is
the single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour,
a marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW.
In practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising
boat will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and
larger engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more
fuel when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If
possible, the up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be
completed first, as it is then easier to return. A good maxim for
fuelling is one-third out, one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how
much gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she
wanted to go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me
what time it was.


Boy... you are argumentative...
Wasn't your second question...*"In the boating course, how did they
instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?"*


WHAP!!! Wake up, Don! I was goofing on you. I asked question A, and you
answered question B, which I did not ask. So, I figured maybe if I reversed
things and asked question B, you might answer question A.



JLH February 9th 07 07:14 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:58:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"JLH" wrote in message
.. .

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:20:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in
this trip:

In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is
the
single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour, a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible,
the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time it
was.


Don appears to be suffering from the JimH syndrome - unable to comprehend.

Don - How far is it?



Average: 10-12 pounds, although free range turkeys are often smaller.


LOL - especially since I just put a 12lb turkey in the oven!
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

JLH February 9th 07 07:16 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:33:28 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved in
this trip:

*In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?*

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is
the single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour, a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible, the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time it
was.


Boy... you are argumentative...
Wasn't your second question...*"In the boating course, how did they instruct
you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?"*


DON!!!

Before you embarrass yourself further, GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD!
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

Don White February 9th 07 07:59 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"JLH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:33:28 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved
in
this trip:

*In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?*

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for
the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is
the single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour,
a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible,
the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as
it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how
much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted
to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time it
was.


Boy... you are argumentative...
Wasn't your second question...*"In the boating course, how did they
instruct
you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?"*


DON!!!

Before you embarrass yourself further, GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD!
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H


Oh yes, Im the great faciliator
Pretending that Im doing well
My need is such I faciliate too much
Im lonely but no one can tell

Oh yes, Im the great faciliator
Adrift in a world of my own
I play the game but to my real shame
You left me to dream all alone



JoeSpareBedroom February 9th 07 08:02 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
"Don White" wrote in message
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"JLH" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:33:28 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved
in
this trip:

*In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how
much
fuel you would burn?*

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for
the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is
the single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every
hour, a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW.
In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible,
the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as
it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how
much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted
to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time
it
was.


Boy... you are argumentative...
Wasn't your second question...*"In the boating course, how did they
instruct
you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?"*


DON!!!

Before you embarrass yourself further, GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD!
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H


Oh yes, Im the great faciliator
Pretending that Im doing well
My need is such I faciliate too much
Im lonely but no one can tell

Oh yes, Im the great faciliator
Adrift in a world of my own
I play the game but to my real shame
You left me to dream all alone



What are you getting bent out of shape for? It seems you might not be seeing
all the messages that everyone else sees. Including this one, there are 25.



JLH February 9th 07 08:03 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:59:11 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JLH" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:33:28 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved
in
this trip:

*In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?*

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for
the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel is
the single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every hour,
a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW. In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible,
the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as
it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how
much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she wanted
to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time it
was.


Boy... you are argumentative...
Wasn't your second question...*"In the boating course, how did they
instruct
you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?"*


DON!!!

Before you embarrass yourself further, GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD!
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H


Oh yes, Im the great faciliator
Pretending that Im doing well
My need is such I faciliate too much
Im lonely but no one can tell

Oh yes, Im the great faciliator
Adrift in a world of my own
I play the game but to my real shame
You left me to dream all alone


Yeah, facilitating your comprehension! Wake up!
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

Don White February 9th 07 08:13 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"JLH" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:33:28 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Let me rephrase the question, to find out how many miles is involved
in
this trip:

*In the boating course, how did they instruct you to estimate how
much
fuel you would burn?*

re 'Boating Course' Student's Notes 8th edition 1999
Section 11.3 The Fuel Supply

The fuel supply should be checked to ensure that there is enough for
the
journey, or that fuel can be obtained en route. Running out of fuel
is
the single most frequent emergency that boaters experience. Every
hour, a
marine engine can be expected to use 0.6 liters of fuel for each kW.
In
practical terms, a 75 kW gasoline outboard motor on a 6m cruising
boat
will give about 1 kilometer per litre of fuel. larger boats and
larger
engines use more; diesel engines use less, but all boats use more
fuel
when travelling against a head wind and adverse current. If possible,
the
up-wind and up-current leg of a journey should be completed first, as
it
is then easier to return. A good maxim for fuelling is one-third out,
one-third back, and one-third in reserve.

note: Not sure if this section has been updated since.



Don, I'm trying to find out how many miles the trip involves, not how
much
gas to take. You're sounding like my ex wife. I'd ask her if she
wanted to
go and pick out paint for the living room and she'd tell me what time
it
was.


Boy... you are argumentative...
Wasn't your second question...*"In the boating course, how did they
instruct
you to estimate how much
fuel you would burn?"*


DON!!!

Before you embarrass yourself further, GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD!
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H


Oh yes, Im the great faciliator
Pretending that Im doing well
My need is such I faciliate too much
Im lonely but no one can tell

Oh yes, Im the great faciliator
Adrift in a world of my own
I play the game but to my real shame
You left me to dream all alone



What are you getting bent out of shape for? It seems you might not be
seeing all the messages that everyone else sees. Including this one, there
are 25.

Just a polite way to tell Sheriff John Henry that his own business needs
tendin' to!



JoeSpareBedroom February 9th 07 08:15 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
"Don White" wrote in message
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What are you getting bent out of shape for? It seems you might not be
seeing all the messages that everyone else sees. Including this one,
there are 25.



Just a polite way to tell Sheriff John Henry that his own business needs
tendin' to!


I agree that 99% of the time, he's a complete pain in the ass*, but in this
case, he's simply pointing out that you have somehow missed the entire
substance of a simple interchange between you and I. I think you should go
have a couple of shots of your favorite whiskey and watch a bad movie.

* Statistics available by request. Maybe.



Don White February 9th 07 08:25 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...


What are you getting bent out of shape for? It seems you might not be
seeing all the messages that everyone else sees. Including this one,
there are 25.



Just a polite way to tell Sheriff John Henry that his own business needs
tendin' to!


I agree that 99% of the time, he's a complete pain in the ass*, but in
this case, he's simply pointing out that you have somehow missed the
entire substance of a simple interchange between you and I. I think you
should go have a couple of shots of your favorite whiskey and watch a bad
movie.

* Statistics available by request. Maybe.


We like rum up here... but I did bring up Google Earth and had the scale
legend inserted.
As best as I can calculate the closest point to Miami is North Bimini in the
Bahamas...which is approx 51 miles distance.



JoeSpareBedroom February 9th 07 08:30 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in message
...


What are you getting bent out of shape for? It seems you might not be
seeing all the messages that everyone else sees. Including this one,
there are 25.



Just a polite way to tell Sheriff John Henry that his own business needs
tendin' to!


I agree that 99% of the time, he's a complete pain in the ass*, but in
this case, he's simply pointing out that you have somehow missed the
entire substance of a simple interchange between you and I. I think you
should go have a couple of shots of your favorite whiskey and watch a bad
movie.

* Statistics available by request. Maybe.


We like rum up here... but I did bring up Google Earth and had the scale
legend inserted.
As best as I can calculate the closest point to Miami is North Bimini in
the Bahamas...which is approx 51 miles distance.



OK, but what is the origin of the name "Bimini"? Was it named after the boat
tops, or is it the other way around? And, what's a "Scotia"?



Don White February 9th 07 08:50 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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OK, but what is the origin of the name "Bimini"? Was it named after the
boat tops, or is it the other way around? And, what's a "Scotia"?

In my usual style, I'll answer the 2nd part of your question.
Scotia = latin for Scotland
that is... Nova Scotia is latin for New Scotland.

Sheriff John can answer the 1st part.



Harry Krause February 9th 07 08:52 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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OK, but what is the origin of the name "Bimini"? Was it named after the
boat tops, or is it the other way around? And, what's a "Scotia"?

In my usual style, I'll answer the 2nd part of your question.
Scotia = latin for Scotland
that is... Nova Scotia is latin for New Scotland.

Sheriff John can answer the 1st part.




Hmmm. And I always thought it was the homeland of lox.

Don White February 9th 07 08:54 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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OK, but what is the origin of the name "Bimini"? Was it named after the
boat tops, or is it the other way around? And, what's a "Scotia"?

In my usual style, I'll answer the 2nd part of your question.
Scotia = latin for Scotland
that is... Nova Scotia is latin for New Scotland.

Sheriff John can answer the 1st part.


On second thought, he's probably too busy runnin' around facilitating.
Bimini (Bi-mini), meaning, Mother of Many Waters, Bibi (Mother) and Mini
(Waters), is a term and name in the Taino Native American Indian language of
the Caribbean islands and is the original Pre-Columbian Taino Arawak name
for the present day U.S. state of Florida.



Don White February 9th 07 09:07 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
OK, but what is the origin of the name "Bimini"? Was it named after the
boat tops, or is it the other way around? And, what's a "Scotia"?

In my usual style, I'll answer the 2nd part of your question.
Scotia = latin for Scotland
that is... Nova Scotia is latin for New Scotland.

Sheriff John can answer the 1st part.



Hmmm. And I always thought it was the homeland of lox.


Very good... I had to look that up.
Nova lox or Nova Scotia lox. Similar to regular lox, but cured with a milder
brine. The fish is then cold smoked. The name dates from a time when much of
the salmon in New York City came from Nova Scotia. Today, however, the name
refers to the milder brining, as compared to regular lox, and the fish may
come from other waters or even be raised on farms.



Short Wave Sportfishing February 9th 07 09:08 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
OK, but what is the origin of the name "Bimini"? Was it named after the
boat tops, or is it the other way around? And, what's a "Scotia"?

In my usual style, I'll answer the 2nd part of your question.
Scotia = latin for Scotland
that is... Nova Scotia is latin for New Scotland.


Which in Urdu is "Gazelle's Ass" and in Backhairistan
"Camel Droppings".

Sheriff John can answer the 1st part.


Sheriff John Stone?

He doesn't leave you alone?

Do you feel so broke up - you want to go home?

Short Wave Sportfishing February 9th 07 09:09 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
OK, but what is the origin of the name "Bimini"? Was it named after
the boat tops, or is it the other way around? And, what's a "Scotia"?

In my usual style, I'll answer the 2nd part of your question.
Scotia = latin for Scotland
that is... Nova Scotia is latin for New Scotland.

Sheriff John can answer the 1st part.


Hmmm. And I always thought it was the homeland of lox.


Nah - canned caribou farts.

Oh, I'm sorry - I meant to say caribou flatus.

Sound much more genteel.

Short Wave Sportfishing February 9th 07 09:10 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
Don White wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
OK, but what is the origin of the name "Bimini"? Was it named after the
boat tops, or is it the other way around? And, what's a "Scotia"?

In my usual style, I'll answer the 2nd part of your question.
Scotia = latin for Scotland
that is... Nova Scotia is latin for New Scotland.

Sheriff John can answer the 1st part.


On second thought, he's probably too busy runnin' around facilitating.
Bimini (Bi-mini), meaning, Mother of Many Waters, Bibi (Mother) and Mini
(Waters), is a term and name in the Taino Native American Indian language of
the Caribbean islands and is the original Pre-Columbian Taino Arawak name
for the present day U.S. state of Florida.


Or in Canadian it would be:

"Hey - Hoser - where 'da hockey pucks, eh?"

JoeSpareBedroom February 9th 07 09:12 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

OK, but what is the origin of the name "Bimini"? Was it named after the
boat tops, or is it the other way around? And, what's a "Scotia"?

In my usual style, I'll answer the 2nd part of your question.
Scotia = latin for Scotland
that is... Nova Scotia is latin for New Scotland.

Sheriff John can answer the 1st part.


On second thought, he's probably too busy runnin' around facilitating.
Bimini (Bi-mini), meaning, Mother of Many Waters, Bibi (Mother) and Mini
(Waters), is a term and name in the Taino Native American Indian language
of the Caribbean islands and is the original Pre-Columbian Taino Arawak
name for the present day U.S. state of Florida.


Busy Tainos. They lived in Puerto Rico, too.



JimH February 9th 07 09:56 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 
On Feb 9, 3:15 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...



What are you getting bent out of shape for? It seems you might not be
seeing all the messages that everyone else sees. Including this one,
there are 25.

Just a polite way to tell Sheriff John Henry that his own business needs
tendin' to!


I agree that 99% of the time, he's a complete pain in the ass*


I would adjust that up another 1%. ;-)


Don White February 9th 07 10:39 PM

Boating from Miami to Bahamas
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
OK, but what is the origin of the name "Bimini"? Was it named after the
boat tops, or is it the other way around? And, what's a "Scotia"?

In my usual style, I'll answer the 2nd part of your question.
Scotia = latin for Scotland
that is... Nova Scotia is latin for New Scotland.


Which in Urdu is "Gazelle's Ass" and in Backhairistan
"Camel Droppings".

Sheriff John can answer the 1st part.


Sheriff John Stone?

He doesn't leave you alone?

Do you feel so broke up - you want to go home?


You a Beach Boys fan? I thought you'd be more into that Frankie Laine
guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Laine




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