Jewish Organizations Behind Illegal Immigration Catastrophe
 

whatever the crap you are promoting has nothing to do with religion. Some
people in a religion might promote freedom and wanting others to have it
based on their own experiences but to assume the Jews are influencing
politicians to promote illegal immigration because of religion is just
idiocy.To name jews who are against or for illegal immigration is
nonsensical because this is a conspiracy that like all other conspiracies
from low intelligent people. Anyone can name people in a religion and then
correlate that and them as representing all anyone from that religion. Jews
are suppose to represent all good or bad things all the time to people who
would like to believe in easy solution to their own insecurity. Seriously,
the world is ****ed up and the only reason idiots like you blame jews is
because you refuse to promote love and right values for yourself so you need
a scapegoat. Personally speaking jews have one vice, they never were able to
go along with control in world govt, they fought for freedom and
intellectual concerns and often that put them at odds with people in control
so its kind of ironic they are the people who are thought to control. Anyway
for being for freedom and intellectual thought and competition they were
always ultimately voted out and or conspired and killed off against and had
people organize for their demise. Sure some jews are corrupt for sure ( but
just prosecute em) and and some are in important office holding decisions
but if they got there it was thru legitimate ways and influence like anyone
else in America.
If anything the jews I have knowed wanted to do the right things the most
times but they unfortunately were never able to last long enough before
control and power coopted them or wanted to destroy them.

Every great cause begins as movement, degenerates into business
and ends up a racket" Eric Hoffer






very interesting . One would hope our democracy and values would invoke
people running for office to better all people they serve for , and to do
the right things, for all the right reason for the common good. In fact I
wish all the people in world stood to fight for that and to promote love and
to fight hate. Its sad to think that politicians have to compromise good
values and ethics in order to play unfairly and get elected sometimes. One
can ask themselves many times , if govts ultimately is nothing more then
different forms of corruption . I guess one can suggest that having
prosecutors and justice system is our govts way of having checks and
balances. But then you look at our President and influences and wonder if
they just devised a better mouse trap or way of doing things legally but
still compromising good values and doing the right thing.





When you have so many people making a good living and supposedly living a
decent standard of life, especially compared to other poor people ,(
majority) your going to have a hard time changing people perceptions about
America and what would make for better govt and values.Our press indirectly
is co-opted like everything else,by power and money. Ultimately we have to
hope the rich and powerful decide to promote goodness and values for the
right reasons and sometimes they do but because they need the money to get
elected or to get paid, often they don't. I don't see a chance in heck to
philosophically and morally change anything, because power and money
ultimately have to influence at a certain point, (because of greed and too
common accepted beliefs on what constitutes our values)to get elected . So
then the hope becomes ultimately will that power and influence do the right
thing for the right reason for everyone anyway or most of the time? . People
are made to believe we live under a great system and if anything other govts
need to change like our system, not theirs. To a certain extent other
countries have it much worse, but that's not to say we can't do better in
making changes to elect people for the right reasons but how is that done?.
Unfortunately the difference between the people who get caught doing the
wrong things and people who don't might be nothing more or less then the
intellectual capacity of those who are in office and how juries define who
crossed the fine lines in breaking the rules. Is good elected politicians in
US just people making a better mouse trap or people who really serve to make
this a better society?-This is one reason we need election reform badly and
politicians with better integrity. At some point anyone can say even people
obviously motivated by integrity and doing the right things, are corrupt or
communists but the only way to fight for doing the right thing is having
people who care to see where the problems lie and trying to promote slow
change thru truth. Till then voters who are good and want society and
politicians to do the right things ultimately have to be good moral
detectives, andhope we find the good prosecutors . Its really not good
enough to accept the till then scenario, we need to promote change thru the
internet and be proactive especially if we want the world to emulate us and
working for the betterment of the world in so called freedom


always striving for perfection.


"Scotius" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:43:54 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:06:24 GMT, "mcs" wrote:

Please cite names of Jewish organizations of influence who are opposed
to illegal immigration. Also name Jews of influence of the same
opinion.

Please cite the Jews who are bosses at top American
industries. Why do I ask this? BECAUSE IT'S THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DRIVING DOWN WAGE STANDARDS
YOU ****ING IDIOT.


Max


thats funny I heard the same exact argument from jews who were against
immigration. There are real conspiracies in the world by the way, and
thats
where we different. Other religions who use their own religion to justify
hate and killings. Thats the point at which the world gets messed up

When people subscribe to drugs,
religious and racial inferiority or superiority to the point of constant
blame or refusing to accept others not like them by promoting hate and
killing and conspiracies , refusing to act loving as parents, and
rational as reasoning people, and constantly choose the same mistakes.
Thats
the REAL CONSPIRACIES in the world


wrote in message
groups.com...
On Feb 4, 11:19 am, "Bill" wrote:
Jewish Organizations Behind Illegal Immigration Catastrophe

By Prof Kevin McDonald

2-2-7

As in the case of policy in the Middle East, it is no secret that
Jewish
organizations were at the forefront of the immigration policy shift
implemented by the 1965 Act. Consider the assessment of Vanderbilt
University historian Hugh Davis Graham in his book Collision Course:
The Strange Convergence of Affirmative Action and Immigration Policy
in America

"Most important for the content of immigration reform, the driving
force at the core of the movement, reaching back to the 1920s, were
Jewish organizations long active in opposing racial and ethnic quotas
Following the shock of the Holocaust, Jewish leaders had been
especially active in Washington in furthering immigration reform. To
the public, the most visible evidence of the immigration reform drive
was played by Jewish legislative leaders, such as Representative
Celler and Senator Jacob Javits of New York. Less visible, but equally
important, were the efforts of key advisers on presidential and agency
staffs. These included senior policy advisers such as Julius Edelson
and Harry Rosenfield in the Truman administration, Maxwell Rabb in the
Eisenhower White House, and presidential aide Myer Feldman, assistant
secretary of state Abba Schwartz, and deputy attorney general Norbert
Schlei in the Kennedy-Johnson administration."(pp. 56-57)

In the past year, there has been much discussion of illegal
immigration. It tapped into a very large reservoir of public anger
about the lack of control of our borders and, I think, the
transformations that immigration is unleashing. The fact that illegal
immigration is, after all, illegal made it difficult to keep off the
public radar (What part of illegal don't you understand??).

But this contrasts with almost no discussion at all in the Mainstream
Media of the question of the 1,000,000 or so legal immigrants that
come to the U.S. every year-no discussion of their effect on the
economy, social services, crime and competition at elite universities;
no discussion of their effect on the long term ethnic composition of
the U.S. and the displacement of native populations in various sectors
of the economy; and no discussion of whether most Americans really
want all of this. (They don't.) The fact that large scale legal
immigration causes exactly the same difficulties as large scale
illegal inflow is a non-subject.

Those who question the power and influence of the Israel Lobby are
quickly labeled anti-Semites. The terms of choice for anyone who
thinks the U.S. should have any restrictions at all on immigration are
" racist" and "nativist" .

It is exactly the same routine: Media self-censorship, pressure on the
media and politicians who stray from official orthodoxy, and
intimidation via labeling, anathematizing , and ultimately loss of
livelihood.

Of course, there are other issues that fall into the same category of
"not fit for public discussion". Perhaps the main one is the role of
genetic influences on intelligence and behavior.

But the two issues of Israel and immigration relaxation (in the U.S.)
have in common a deep and straightforward Jewish commitment to
particular policies. My contention is that both policies have been
construed by Jewish leaders as being helpful to the security and
political influence of their community.

In the case of Israel, this is self-evident. In the case of
immigration policy, there ample documentation [PDF] of a consistent
interest by the Jewish community, both in America and in Europe, in
ending the hegemony of the host community amongst whom they live. The
measures taken to enforce their chosen objectives suggest there is
indeed an element of truth in what Foxman dismisses as "the old canard
and conspiracy theory of Jewish control of the media, Congress, and
the U.S. government".

I have presented the facts about Jewish influence in both reative
immigration and the Middle East elsewhere. This has been extremely
unwelcome. And it is not at all surprising that the Jewish community
would strenuously resist these conclusions.

Nevertheless, on foreign policy matters what is going on has obviously
become increasingly apparent to a lot of smart people with
intellectual integrity.

As the incoming 110th Congress starts up, a crucial question will be
if this new comprehension will dawn in an area in which, I believe, it
is even more critical: America's post-1965

Kevin MacDonald ] is Professor of Psychology at
California State University-Long Beach. For his website, go
tohttp://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/

Excerpted from Mr. MacDonald's essay Immigration Policy: Is The Other
Boot About To Drop?

http://www.rense.com/general75/imm.htm


Why, oh why, does organized Jewry continue to push anti-White agendas
that will eventually consume their tribe?
gregory

Low cost substitute for "Marine" toilet paper
 

On Feb 6, 7:50 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
I wonder how many people don't know that buying the cheapest, single
ply TP you can find is often the exact same roll of stuff that you can
buy at the local marine supply store for about $3 a roll?

There's no plant that manufactures "marine toilet paper", but a bunch
of guys who repackage single ply and sell it at some incredible prices.



"MARINE" toilet paper?????


cripes.

Marketing at it's finest!

Jewish Organizations Behind Illegal Immigration Catastrophe
 

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:21:28 GMT, "mcs" wrote:

snipped


Doesn't the marine toilet paper, as sold in West Marine, for example,
dissolve more readily in the chemicals used in portable potties?
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

Jewish Organizations Behind Illegal Immigration Catastrophe
 

JLH wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:21:28 GMT, "mcs" wrote:

snipped

Doesn't the marine toilet paper, as sold in West Marine, for example,
dissolve more readily in the chemicals used in portable potties?
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

If you compare it to the nice fluffy double ply TP it does. As Gould
pointed out, all it is is inexpensive single ply TP that you can buy at
any discount store.

Jewish Organizations Behind Illegal Immigration Catastrophe
 

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:49:24 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JLH wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:21:28 GMT, "mcs" wrote:

snipped

Doesn't the marine toilet paper, as sold in West Marine, for example,
dissolve more readily in the chemicals used in portable potties?
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

If you compare it to the nice fluffy double ply TP it does. As Gould
pointed out, all it is is inexpensive single ply TP that you can buy at
any discount store.

That Gould is just full of good information! I thought the marine stuff was
special. What a dummy I am.
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

Low cost substitute for "Marine" toilet paper
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
On 2/7/2007 6:47 AM, Tim wrote:
On Feb 6, 7:50 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
I wonder how many people don't know that buying the cheapest, single
ply TP you can find is often the exact same roll of stuff that you can
buy at the local marine supply store for about $3 a roll?

There's no plant that manufactures "marine toilet paper", but a bunch
of guys who repackage single ply and sell it at some incredible prices.



"MARINE" toilet paper?????


cripes.

Marketing at it's finest!



Hey...after all that time in boot camp, those marines have delicate butts!

Oh my! Say it ain't true Tom......

Jewish Organizations Behind Illegal Immigration Catastrophe
 

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:21:28 GMT, "mcs"
wrote:

whatever the crap you are promoting has nothing to do with religion. Some
people in a religion might promote freedom and wanting others to have it
based on their own experiences but to assume the Jews are influencing
politicians to promote illegal immigration because of religion is just
idiocy.To name jews who are against or for illegal immigration is
nonsensical because this is a conspiracy that like all other conspiracies
from low intelligent people. Anyone can name people in a religion and then
correlate that and them as representing all anyone from that religion. Jews
are suppose to represent all good or bad things all the time to people who
would like to believe in easy solution to their own insecurity. Seriously,
the world is ****ed up and the only reason idiots like you blame jews is
because you refuse to promote love and right values for yourself so you need
a scapegoat. Personally speaking jews have one vice, they never were able to
go along with control in world govt, they fought for freedom and
intellectual concerns and often that put them at odds with people in control
so its kind of ironic they are the people who are thought to control. Anyway
for being for freedom and intellectual thought and competition they were
always ultimately voted out and or conspired and killed off against and had
people organize for their demise. Sure some jews are corrupt for sure ( but
just prosecute em) and and some are in important office holding decisions
but if they got there it was thru legitimate ways and influence like anyone
else in America.
If anything the jews I have knowed wanted to do the right things the most
times but they unfortunately were never able to last long enough before
control and power coopted them or wanted to destroy them.

Every great cause begins as movement, degenerates into business
and ends up a racket" Eric Hoffer






very interesting . One would hope our democracy and values would invoke
people running for office to better all people they serve for , and to do
the right things, for all the right reason for the common good. In fact I
wish all the people in world stood to fight for that and to promote love and
to fight hate. Its sad to think that politicians have to compromise good
values and ethics in order to play unfairly and get elected sometimes. One
can ask themselves many times , if govts ultimately is nothing more then
different forms of corruption . I guess one can suggest that having
prosecutors and justice system is our govts way of having checks and
balances. But then you look at our President and influences and wonder if
they just devised a better mouse trap or way of doing things legally but
still compromising good values and doing the right thing.





When you have so many people making a good living and supposedly living a
decent standard of life, especially compared to other poor people ,(
majority) your going to have a hard time changing people perceptions about
America and what would make for better govt and values.Our press indirectly
is co-opted like everything else,by power and money. Ultimately we have to
hope the rich and powerful decide to promote goodness and values for the
right reasons and sometimes they do but because they need the money to get
elected or to get paid, often they don't. I don't see a chance in heck to
philosophically and morally change anything, because power and money
ultimately have to influence at a certain point, (because of greed and too
common accepted beliefs on what constitutes our values)to get elected . So
then the hope becomes ultimately will that power and influence do the right
thing for the right reason for everyone anyway or most of the time? . People
are made to believe we live under a great system and if anything other govts
need to change like our system, not theirs. To a certain extent other
countries have it much worse, but that's not to say we can't do better in
making changes to elect people for the right reasons but how is that done?.
Unfortunately the difference between the people who get caught doing the
wrong things and people who don't might be nothing more or less then the
intellectual capacity of those who are in office and how juries define who
crossed the fine lines in breaking the rules. Is good elected politicians in
US just people making a better mouse trap or people who really serve to make
this a better society?-This is one reason we need election reform badly and
politicians with better integrity. At some point anyone can say even people
obviously motivated by integrity and doing the right things, are corrupt or
communists but the only way to fight for doing the right thing is having
people who care to see where the problems lie and trying to promote slow
change thru truth. Till then voters who are good and want society and
politicians to do the right things ultimately have to be good moral
detectives, andhope we find the good prosecutors . Its really not good
enough to accept the till then scenario, we need to promote change thru the
internet and be proactive especially if we want the world to emulate us and
working for the betterment of the world in so called freedom


always striving for perfection.

Whoa buddy! I didn't post the original. I responded to the
idiot who insisted that Jews are at fault for illegal immigration.



"Scotius" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:43:54 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:06:24 GMT, "mcs" wrote:

Please cite names of Jewish organizations of influence who are opposed
to illegal immigration. Also name Jews of influence of the same
opinion.

Please cite the Jews who are bosses at top American
industries. Why do I ask this? BECAUSE IT'S THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DRIVING DOWN WAGE STANDARDS
YOU ****ING IDIOT.


Max


thats funny I heard the same exact argument from jews who were against
immigration. There are real conspiracies in the world by the way, and
thats
where we different. Other religions who use their own religion to justify
hate and killings. Thats the point at which the world gets messed up

When people subscribe to drugs,
religious and racial inferiority or superiority to the point of constant
blame or refusing to accept others not like them by promoting hate and
killing and conspiracies , refusing to act loving as parents, and
rational as reasoning people, and constantly choose the same mistakes.
Thats
the REAL CONSPIRACIES in the world


wrote in message
egroups.com...
On Feb 4, 11:19 am, "Bill" wrote:
Jewish Organizations Behind Illegal Immigration Catastrophe

By Prof Kevin McDonald

2-2-7

As in the case of policy in the Middle East, it is no secret that
Jewish
organizations were at the forefront of the immigration policy shift
implemented by the 1965 Act. Consider the assessment of Vanderbilt
University historian Hugh Davis Graham in his book Collision Course:
The Strange Convergence of Affirmative Action and Immigration Policy
in America

"Most important for the content of immigration reform, the driving
force at the core of the movement, reaching back to the 1920s, were
Jewish organizations long active in opposing racial and ethnic quotas
Following the shock of the Holocaust, Jewish leaders had been
especially active in Washington in furthering immigration reform. To
the public, the most visible evidence of the immigration reform drive
was played by Jewish legislative leaders, such as Representative
Celler and Senator Jacob Javits of New York. Less visible, but equally
important, were the efforts of key advisers on presidential and agency
staffs. These included senior policy advisers such as Julius Edelson
and Harry Rosenfield in the Truman administration, Maxwell Rabb in the
Eisenhower White House, and presidential aide Myer Feldman, assistant
secretary of state Abba Schwartz, and deputy attorney general Norbert
Schlei in the Kennedy-Johnson administration."(pp. 56-57)

In the past year, there has been much discussion of illegal
immigration. It tapped into a very large reservoir of public anger
about the lack of control of our borders and, I think, the
transformations that immigration is unleashing. The fact that illegal
immigration is, after all, illegal made it difficult to keep off the
public radar (What part of illegal don't you understand??).

But this contrasts with almost no discussion at all in the Mainstream
Media of the question of the 1,000,000 or so legal immigrants that
come to the U.S. every year-no discussion of their effect on the
economy, social services, crime and competition at elite universities;
no discussion of their effect on the long term ethnic composition of
the U.S. and the displacement of native populations in various sectors
of the economy; and no discussion of whether most Americans really
want all of this. (They don't.) The fact that large scale legal
immigration causes exactly the same difficulties as large scale
illegal inflow is a non-subject.

Those who question the power and influence of the Israel Lobby are
quickly labeled anti-Semites. The terms of choice for anyone who
thinks the U.S. should have any restrictions at all on immigration are
" racist" and "nativist" .

It is exactly the same routine: Media self-censorship, pressure on the
media and politicians who stray from official orthodoxy, and
intimidation via labeling, anathematizing , and ultimately loss of
livelihood.

Of course, there are other issues that fall into the same category of
"not fit for public discussion". Perhaps the main one is the role of
genetic influences on intelligence and behavior.

But the two issues of Israel and immigration relaxation (in the U.S.)
have in common a deep and straightforward Jewish commitment to
particular policies. My contention is that both policies have been
construed by Jewish leaders as being helpful to the security and
political influence of their community.

In the case of Israel, this is self-evident. In the case of
immigration policy, there ample documentation [PDF] of a consistent
interest by the Jewish community, both in America and in Europe, in
ending the hegemony of the host community amongst whom they live. The
measures taken to enforce their chosen objectives suggest there is
indeed an element of truth in what Foxman dismisses as "the old canard
and conspiracy theory of Jewish control of the media, Congress, and
the U.S. government".

I have presented the facts about Jewish influence in both reative
immigration and the Middle East elsewhere. This has been extremely
unwelcome. And it is not at all surprising that the Jewish community
would strenuously resist these conclusions.

Nevertheless, on foreign policy matters what is going on has obviously
become increasingly apparent to a lot of smart people with
intellectual integrity.

As the incoming 110th Congress starts up, a crucial question will be
if this new comprehension will dawn in an area in which, I believe, it
is even more critical: America's post-1965

Kevin MacDonald ] is Professor of Psychology at
California State University-Long Beach. For his website, go
tohttp://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/

Excerpted from Mr. MacDonald's essay Immigration Policy: Is The Other
Boot About To Drop?

http://www.rense.com/general75/imm.htm


Why, oh why, does organized Jewry continue to push anti-White agendas
that will eventually consume their tribe?
gregory