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Well, interesting week...
JimH wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:52 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:42 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... 1 - Computer caught fire. 2 - Office smoke damage. That sucks! Some here will blame it on bad karma. ;-) Was it the power supply catching fire? I guess - that's what the Fire Marshall said. Kind of a thermal runaway. How old was it? Three years. Are you going to notify the manufacturer of the computer and/or power supply? It is useful information for them and may lead to a recall. I would also pursue a claim against them to recover damages from the fire. This failure and resulting fire is certainly not to be expected as the power supply was certainly well within it's expected useful life. The first question they will ask is if you turned it off before you left the room. If it isn't a server class system it is not "intended" to be turned on all of the time. |
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Well, interesting week...
"BAR" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:52 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:42 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... 1 - Computer caught fire. 2 - Office smoke damage. That sucks! Some here will blame it on bad karma. ;-) Was it the power supply catching fire? I guess - that's what the Fire Marshall said. Kind of a thermal runaway. How old was it? Three years. Are you going to notify the manufacturer of the computer and/or power supply? It is useful information for them and may lead to a recall. I would also pursue a claim against them to recover damages from the fire. This failure and resulting fire is certainly not to be expected as the power supply was certainly well within it's expected useful life. The first question they will ask is if you turned it off before you left the room. If it isn't a server class system it is not "intended" to be turned on all of the time. Wrong. Computers are made to be kept on 24x7. Why do you think they have "sleep modes" on computers and monitors? |
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#3
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Well, interesting week...
JimH wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:52 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:42 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... 1 - Computer caught fire. 2 - Office smoke damage. That sucks! Some here will blame it on bad karma. ;-) Was it the power supply catching fire? I guess - that's what the Fire Marshall said. Kind of a thermal runaway. How old was it? Three years. Are you going to notify the manufacturer of the computer and/or power supply? It is useful information for them and may lead to a recall. I would also pursue a claim against them to recover damages from the fire. This failure and resulting fire is certainly not to be expected as the power supply was certainly well within it's expected useful life. The first question they will ask is if you turned it off before you left the room. If it isn't a server class system it is not "intended" to be turned on all of the time. Wrong. Computers are made to be kept on 24x7. Why do you think they have "sleep modes" on computers and monitors? Regardless of whether it has a sleep mode or not unless it is a server class system it is not "designed" to be on 24x7. Server class means on 24x7. Desktop means on 9 to 5. Laptop means on when you are using it. |
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#4
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Well, interesting week...
"BAR" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:52 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:42 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... 1 - Computer caught fire. 2 - Office smoke damage. That sucks! Some here will blame it on bad karma. ;-) Was it the power supply catching fire? I guess - that's what the Fire Marshall said. Kind of a thermal runaway. How old was it? Three years. Are you going to notify the manufacturer of the computer and/or power supply? It is useful information for them and may lead to a recall. I would also pursue a claim against them to recover damages from the fire. This failure and resulting fire is certainly not to be expected as the power supply was certainly well within it's expected useful life. The first question they will ask is if you turned it off before you left the room. If it isn't a server class system it is not "intended" to be turned on all of the time. Wrong. Computers are made to be kept on 24x7. Why do you think they have "sleep modes" on computers and monitors? Regardless of whether it has a sleep mode or not unless it is a server class system it is not "designed" to be on 24x7. Server class means on 24x7. Desktop means on 9 to 5. Laptop means on when you are using it. Are saying that computer manufacturers expect the users of their hardware to turn it off each and every time they leave their computer? If so, that alone is a major design fault which makes the claim even more valid. |
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#5
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Well, interesting week...
"JimH" wrote in message ... Are saying that computer manufacturers expect the users of their hardware to turn it off each and every time they leave their computer? If so, that alone is a major design fault which makes the claim even more valid. It might be a good argument in a courtroom defending a lawsuit, but I don't believe it has any technical merit. Eisboch |
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#6
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Well, interesting week...
"RCE" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... Are saying that computer manufacturers expect the users of their hardware to turn it off each and every time they leave their computer? If so, that alone is a major design fault which makes the claim even more valid. It might be a good argument in a courtroom defending a lawsuit, but I don't believe it has any technical merit. Eisboch The judge and jury use common sense and personal experience. Engineers designing a product need to consider misuse of product in their final product and build in appropriate controls. ;-) |
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#7
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Well, interesting week...
JimH wrote:
"RCE" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... Are saying that computer manufacturers expect the users of their hardware to turn it off each and every time they leave their computer? If so, that alone is a major design fault which makes the claim even more valid. It might be a good argument in a courtroom defending a lawsuit, but I don't believe it has any technical merit. Eisboch The judge and jury use common sense and personal experience. Engineers designing a product need to consider misuse of product in their final product and build in appropriate controls. ;-) Like the did with lawn darts? |
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#8
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Well, interesting week...
JimH wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:52 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:42 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... 1 - Computer caught fire. 2 - Office smoke damage. That sucks! Some here will blame it on bad karma. ;-) Was it the power supply catching fire? I guess - that's what the Fire Marshall said. Kind of a thermal runaway. How old was it? Three years. Are you going to notify the manufacturer of the computer and/or power supply? It is useful information for them and may lead to a recall. I would also pursue a claim against them to recover damages from the fire. This failure and resulting fire is certainly not to be expected as the power supply was certainly well within it's expected useful life. The first question they will ask is if you turned it off before you left the room. If it isn't a server class system it is not "intended" to be turned on all of the time. Wrong. Computers are made to be kept on 24x7. Why do you think they have "sleep modes" on computers and monitors? Regardless of whether it has a sleep mode or not unless it is a server class system it is not "designed" to be on 24x7. Server class means on 24x7. Desktop means on 9 to 5. Laptop means on when you are using it. Are saying that computer manufacturers expect the users of their hardware to turn it off each and every time they leave their computer? If so, that alone is a major design fault which makes the claim even more valid. When the lawsuit is served they are going to say that the produce periodic use equipment, laptops and desktops, and continuous use equipment, servers. It has nothing to do with design faults it has to do with product liability. |
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#9
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Well, interesting week...
"BAR" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:52 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:42 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... 1 - Computer caught fire. 2 - Office smoke damage. That sucks! Some here will blame it on bad karma. ;-) Was it the power supply catching fire? I guess - that's what the Fire Marshall said. Kind of a thermal runaway. How old was it? Three years. Are you going to notify the manufacturer of the computer and/or power supply? It is useful information for them and may lead to a recall. I would also pursue a claim against them to recover damages from the fire. This failure and resulting fire is certainly not to be expected as the power supply was certainly well within it's expected useful life. The first question they will ask is if you turned it off before you left the room. If it isn't a server class system it is not "intended" to be turned on all of the time. Wrong. Computers are made to be kept on 24x7. Why do you think they have "sleep modes" on computers and monitors? Regardless of whether it has a sleep mode or not unless it is a server class system it is not "designed" to be on 24x7. Server class means on 24x7. Desktop means on 9 to 5. Laptop means on when you are using it. Are saying that computer manufacturers expect the users of their hardware to turn it off each and every time they leave their computer? If so, that alone is a major design fault which makes the claim even more valid. When the lawsuit is served they are going to say that the produce periodic use equipment, laptops and desktops, and continuous use equipment, servers. It has nothing to do with design faults it has to do with product liability. Wrong again. |
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#10
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Well, interesting week...
"BAR" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:52 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:42 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... 1 - Computer caught fire. 2 - Office smoke damage. That sucks! Some here will blame it on bad karma. ;-) Was it the power supply catching fire? I guess - that's what the Fire Marshall said. Kind of a thermal runaway. How old was it? Three years. Are you going to notify the manufacturer of the computer and/or power supply? It is useful information for them and may lead to a recall. I would also pursue a claim against them to recover damages from the fire. This failure and resulting fire is certainly not to be expected as the power supply was certainly well within it's expected useful life. The first question they will ask is if you turned it off before you left the room. If it isn't a server class system it is not "intended" to be turned on all of the time. Wrong. Computers are made to be kept on 24x7. Why do you think they have "sleep modes" on computers and monitors? Regardless of whether it has a sleep mode or not unless it is a server class system it is not "designed" to be on 24x7. Server class means on 24x7. Desktop means on 9 to 5. Laptop means on when you are using it. What make a PC a "server class" system? |
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