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BAR February 4th 07 05:24 AM

Well, interesting week...
 
JimH wrote:
"RCE" wrote in message
...
"JimH" wrote in message
...

Are saying that computer manufacturers expect the users of their hardware
to turn it off each and every time they leave their computer? If so,
that alone is a major design fault which makes the claim even more valid.

It might be a good argument in a courtroom defending a lawsuit, but I
don't believe it has any technical merit.

Eisboch


The judge and jury use common sense and personal experience. Engineers
designing a product need to consider misuse of product in their final
product and build in appropriate controls. ;-)


Like the did with lawn darts?



Chuck Gould February 4th 07 07:01 AM

Well, interesting week...
 
On Feb 3, 3:03�pm, wrote:
On Feb 3, 8:07 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:

On Feb 2, 5:25?pm, wrote:


On Feb 2, 12:45 pm, "Mike" wrote:


ROFLOL! The way this guy just showed up and started popping off to anyone he
could, ?seemed strange. Now it makes sense, and is actually kind of funny.


It could have been real fun - we've had some real battles in the good
old
days - all very civil and all very nasthy. ?:)


Oh well, it seemed like a good idea at the time. ?:)


I think I'd disagree that trying to start flame wars, simply because
it might be fun, would be a good idea.


Of course you would - which is fine, but (and I mean no offense here
you must understand - just an opinion) you and others here lack a
certain sense of "whimsy" if you will. *Flame wars can be fun and
if the participants keep it civil, it's much like having a "snap"
contest.

On the other hand, all here are good people even if a little odd from
time to time so it's a wash in the end. :)


I'd be at a loss to know how to communicate "whimsy" when stating,
(for example only, not applicable to our discussion), "You're an
asshole!"
All of the audible and visual communication clues we rely upon during
normal conversation are missing in an internet exchange. We have no
history of valid personal relationship or opportunity to observe the
mannerisms and behaviors of people we correspond with in this medium,
so we can't know whether or not Joe Blow "really meant it" when he
called so and so a string of foul names.

Would it be more appropriate for a small group of people interested in
trading outrageous insults and flames on a recreational basis to do so
via private email?



[email protected] February 4th 07 11:42 AM

Well, interesting week...
 
On Feb 3, 5:24 pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...





On Feb 3, 8:11 am, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message


groups.com...


On Feb 2, 7:52 am, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message


groups.com...


On Feb 2, 7:42 am, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message


roups.com...


1 - Computer caught fire.


2 - Office smoke damage.


That sucks! Some here will blame it on bad karma. ;-)


Was it the power supply catching fire?


I guess - that's what the Fire Marshall said. Kind of a thermal
runaway.


How old was it?


Three years.


Are you going to notify the manufacturer of the computer and/or power
supply? It is useful information for them and may lead to a recall.


Yes I have and they have requested the power supply back for
examination.


Good.



I would also pursue a claim against them to recover damages from the
fire.
This failure and resulting fire is certainly not to be expected as the
power
supply was certainly well within it's expected useful life.


Nah - stuff happens you know?


I'm not the sue type - it really serves no purpose.


Suing is one thing.............making an insurance claim to 'make right' is
another and there is nothing wrong with it, especially when the product
failed with potential catastrophic consequences.

But glad to see things are back to normal.


And what is the net result? I have a fire on record that required a
claim.

Think my already outrageous insurance bill won't go up?

Please.


[email protected] February 4th 07 11:46 AM

Well, interesting week...
 
On Feb 3, 7:28 pm, "Mike" wrote:
Remember typing in all those addresses in the email for routing?


I never had to do that. On cserve, the nodes were designed for all traffic
to go to and from Ohio (their headquarters). 99% of the email that
originated from a cserve member went to a cserve member, so it was only a
matter of transferring it from one mailbox to another... on the same
network.


I got it. It was much more fun to send messages cross country. :)

My duties had more to do with managing various file libraries, and
moderating forums. I was one of those guys that thought the www (netscape,
yahoo, etc) would never catch on.... oops. :-)


True story. I remember sitting in a meeting with Ed DeCastro then
head of
Data General and he thought that email would serve no purpose beyond
internal memo use within any company.


[email protected] February 4th 07 11:48 AM

Well, interesting week...
 
On Feb 3, 8:57 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On 3 Feb 2007 15:27:35 -0800, penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 3, 12:43 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On 2 Feb 2007 05:17:57 -0800, penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


4 - Purchase new computer - this time I'm building my own.


Does that mean you are rescinding your prior endorsements for
e-machine?


Not at all - it is what it is - a basic computer that works well.
Cheap
and easy to work with.


Just don't expect it to last forever.


Somehow.... I see a vast distinction between "not lasting forever" and
"bursting into flame".....


Well, being a practical kind of guy, I can see how you might look at
it
that way. :)


[email protected] February 4th 07 11:48 AM

Well, interesting week...
 
On Feb 3, 9:15 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On 3 Feb 2007 15:03:16 -0800, wrote:

Flame wars can be fun and
if the participants keep it civil, it's much like having a "snap"
contest.


Civil is a concept which has proven elusive here in the past. Better
not to stir the pot too much.


10-4


[email protected] February 4th 07 11:50 AM

Well, interesting week...
 
On Feb 3, 9:57 pm, -rick- wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On 3 Feb 2007 15:27:35 -0800, penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


On Feb 3, 12:43 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On 2 Feb 2007 05:17:57 -0800, penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


4 - Purchase new computer - this time I'm building my own.
Does that mean you are rescinding your prior endorsements for
e-machine?
Not at all - it is what it is - a basic computer that works well.
Cheap
and easy to work with.


Just don't expect it to last forever.


Somehow.... I see a vast distinction between "not lasting forever" and
"bursting into flame".....


Maybe it was half full of dog hair and cigar ashes...


Don't smoke in the house and we do own a vacuum cleaner. :)


[email protected] February 4th 07 12:16 PM

Well, interesting week...
 
On Feb 3, 9:19 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:28:59 GMT, "Mike" wrote:
I was one of those guys that thought the www (netscape,
yahoo, etc) would never catch on.... oops. :-)


Compuserve management thought the same thing until it was too late to
save the franchise.

Really big oops.


What amazed me was that all these forward thinking people that
ran theses companies were rather parochial when it came to
innovation - it was all about the hardware and they never realised
what kind of communications revolution was sitting on the
horizon.


[email protected] February 4th 07 12:16 PM

Well, interesting week...
 
On Feb 4, 1:01 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Feb 3, 3:03?pm, wrote:





On Feb 3, 8:07 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:


On Feb 2, 5:25?pm, wrote:


On Feb 2, 12:45 pm, "Mike" wrote:


ROFLOL! The way this guy just showed up and started popping off to anyone he
could, ?seemed strange. Now it makes sense, and is actually kind of funny.


It could have been real fun - we've had some real battles in the good
old
days - all very civil and all very nasthy. ?:)


Oh well, it seemed like a good idea at the time. ?:)


I think I'd disagree that trying to start flame wars, simply because
it might be fun, would be a good idea.


Of course you would - which is fine, but (and I mean no offense here
you must understand - just an opinion) you and others here lack a
certain sense of "whimsy" if you will. ?Flame wars can be fun and
if the participants keep it civil, it's much like having a "snap"
contest.


On the other hand, all here are good people even if a little odd from
time to time so it's a wash in the end. :)


I'd be at a loss to know how to communicate "whimsy" when stating,
(for example only, not applicable to our discussion), "You're an
asshole!"
All of the audible and visual communication clues we rely upon during
normal conversation are missing in an internet exchange. We have no
history of valid personal relationship or opportunity to observe the
mannerisms and behaviors of people we correspond with in this medium,
so we can't know whether or not Joe Blow "really meant it" when he
called so and so a string of foul names.

Would it be more appropriate for a small group of people interested in
trading outrageous insults and flames on a recreational basis to do so
via private email?


Game.

Set.

Match.


Reginald P. Smithers III February 4th 07 12:39 PM

Well, interesting week...
 
wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:57 pm, -rick- wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On 3 Feb 2007 15:27:35 -0800, penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
On Feb 3, 12:43 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On 2 Feb 2007 05:17:57 -0800, penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
4 - Purchase new computer - this time I'm building my own.
Does that mean you are rescinding your prior endorsements for
e-machine?
Not at all - it is what it is - a basic computer that works well.
Cheap
and easy to work with.
Just don't expect it to last forever.
Somehow.... I see a vast distinction between "not lasting forever" and
"bursting into flame".....

Maybe it was half full of dog hair and cigar ashes...


Don't smoke in the house and we do own a vacuum cleaner. :)


I own two dogs, vacuum (not as much as we should) and keep a hepa filter
in each room. I am always amazed at the amount of dander that ends up
inside the computer. I keep mine on the floor, so if it was on a desk,
I am sure less would end up inside the computer. Since I now have a AMD
dual core, which runs hotter, I probably should get into the habit of
cleaning the sucker out on a regular basis.


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