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Bravo Zulu
Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered
that the signal does *not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: (This is from Wikipedia) Bravo Zulu is a naval signal, conveyed by flaghoist or voice radio, meaning "well done"; it has also passed into the spoken and written vocabulary. It can be combined with the "negative" signal, spoken or written NEGAT, to say "NEGAT Bravo Zulu", or "not well done". There are some myths and legends attached to this signal. The one most frequently heard has Admiral "Bull" Halsey sending it to ships of Task Force 38 during World War II. He could not have done this, since the signal did not exist at that time. "Bravo Zulu" actually comes from the Allied Naval Signal Book (ATP1 Vol 2 series), an international naval signal code adopted after the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was created in 1949. Until then, each navy had used its own signal code and operational manuals. World War II experience had shown that it was difficult, or even impossible, for ships of different navies to operate together unless they could readily communicate, and ACP 175 was designed to remedy this. In the U.S. Navy signal code, used before ACP 175, "well done" was signaled as TVG, or "Tare Victor George" in the U.S. phonetic alphabet of that time. ACP 175 was organized in the general manner of other signal books, that is, starting with 1-flag signals, then 2-flag and so on. The 2-flag signals were organized by general subject, starting with AA, AB, AC, ... AZ, BA, BB, BC, ... BZ, and so on. The B- signals were called "Administrative" signals, and dealt with miscellaneous matters of administration and housekeeping. The last signal on the "Administrative" page was BZ, standing for "well done". At that time BZ was not rendered as "Bravo Zulu", but in each navy's particular phonetic alphabet. In the U.S. Navy, BZ was spoken as "Baker Zebra". In the meanwhile, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) had adopted English as the international air traffic control language. They developed a phonetic alphabet for international aviation use, designed to be as "pronounceable" as possible by flyers and traffic controllers speaking many different languages. This was the "Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta..." alphabet used today. The Navy adopted this ICAO alphabet in March 1956. It was then that "Baker Zebra" finally became "Bravo Zulu". |
Bravo Zulu
On 1 Feb 2007 19:46:52 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote: Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered that the signal does *not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: (This is from Wikipedia) Bravo Zulu is a naval signal, conveyed by flaghoist or voice radio, meaning "well done"; it has also passed into the spoken and written vocabulary. It can be combined with the "negative" signal, spoken or written NEGAT, to say "NEGAT Bravo Zulu", or "not well done". There are some myths and legends attached to this signal. The one most frequently heard has Admiral "Bull" Halsey sending it to ships of Task Force 38 during World War II. He could not have done this, since the signal did not exist at that time. "Bravo Zulu" actually comes from the Allied Naval Signal Book (ATP1 Vol 2 series), an international naval signal code adopted after the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was created in 1949. Until then, each navy had used its own signal code and operational manuals. World War II experience had shown that it was difficult, or even impossible, for ships of different navies to operate together unless they could readily communicate, and ACP 175 was designed to remedy this. In the U.S. Navy signal code, used before ACP 175, "well done" was signaled as TVG, or "Tare Victor George" in the U.S. phonetic alphabet of that time. ACP 175 was organized in the general manner of other signal books, that is, starting with 1-flag signals, then 2-flag and so on. The 2-flag signals were organized by general subject, starting with AA, AB, AC, ... AZ, BA, BB, BC, ... BZ, and so on. The B- signals were called "Administrative" signals, and dealt with miscellaneous matters of administration and housekeeping. The last signal on the "Administrative" page was BZ, standing for "well done". At that time BZ was not rendered as "Bravo Zulu", but in each navy's particular phonetic alphabet. In the U.S. Navy, BZ was spoken as "Baker Zebra". In the meanwhile, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) had adopted English as the international air traffic control language. They developed a phonetic alphabet for international aviation use, designed to be as "pronounceable" as possible by flyers and traffic controllers speaking many different languages. This was the "Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta..." alphabet used today. The Navy adopted this ICAO alphabet in March 1956. It was then that "Baker Zebra" finally became "Bravo Zulu". The hyper-critics are probably going to accuse you of trying to sell signal flags, but I found that very interesting. Thanks! -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
Bravo Zulu
Chuck Gould wrote:
... The Navy adopted this ICAO alphabet in March 1956. It was then that "Baker Zebra" finally became "Bravo Zulu". As a former US Navy Signalman who served with NATO, I say BZ to you for this interesting and, I might add, accurate post. -- Stan |
Bravo Zulu
On Feb 1, 9:46 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered that the signal does *not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: Sometimes, Wikipedia actually has it right. It amazes me that people still manage to mangle the phonetic alphabet. Listen to some of the emergency responders around here, you really begin to wonder about their backgrounds. One in particular uses Heroin instead of Hotel. :) Come to think of it, how many people actually know the phonetic alphabet - probably not many. |
Bravo Zulu
wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 1, 9:46 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered that the signal does *not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: Sometimes, Wikipedia actually has it right. It amazes me that people still manage to mangle the phonetic alphabet. Listen to some of the emergency responders around here, you really begin to wonder about their backgrounds. One in particular uses Heroin instead of Hotel. :) Come to think of it, how many people actually know the phonetic alphabet - probably not many. Without looking 'em up .... Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliett K???? (can't remember) Kilo? Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu Eisboch (with and "Echo") |
Bravo Zulu
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 1, 9:46 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered that the signal does *not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: Sometimes, Wikipedia actually has it right. It amazes me that people still manage to mangle the phonetic alphabet. Listen to some of the emergency responders around here, you really begin to wonder about their backgrounds. One in particular uses Heroin instead of Hotel. :) Come to think of it, how many people actually know the phonetic alphabet - probably not many. Without looking 'em up .... Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliett K???? (can't remember) Kilo? Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu Eisboch (with and "Echo") BZ |
Bravo Zulu
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:29:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message roups.com... On Feb 1, 9:46 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered that the signal does *not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: Sometimes, Wikipedia actually has it right. It amazes me that people still manage to mangle the phonetic alphabet. Listen to some of the emergency responders around here, you really begin to wonder about their backgrounds. One in particular uses Heroin instead of Hotel. :) Come to think of it, how many people actually know the phonetic alphabet - probably not many. Without looking 'em up .... Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliett K???? (can't remember) Kilo? Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu Eisboch (with and "Echo") Good job, but that's the military one. What's the police phonetic alphabet? http://www.police-scanner.info/gloss...c_alphabet.htm -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
Bravo Zulu
Good job, but that's the military one. What's the police phonetic alphabet? "Drop it and spread 'em" Eisboch |
Bravo Zulu
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:29:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
Without looking 'em up .... Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta That's about right as I remember it for the "new" international standard created in the mid to late 50s if I remember correctly. There was an older WW II era standard that went something like this: Adam Baker Charlie David Edward Frank .. .. Zebra |
Bravo Zulu
On Feb 2, 4:11�am, JLH wrote:
On 1 Feb 2007 19:46:52 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered that the signal does **not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: (This is from Wikipedia) Bravo Zulu is a naval signal, conveyed by flaghoist or voice radio, meaning "well done"; it has also passed into the spoken and written vocabulary. It can be combined with the "negative" signal, spoken or written NEGAT, to say "NEGAT Bravo Zulu", or "not well done". There are some myths and legends attached to this signal. The one most frequently heard has Admiral "Bull" Halsey sending it to ships of Task Force 38 during World War II. He could not have done this, since the signal did not exist at that time. "Bravo Zulu" actually comes from the Allied Naval Signal Book (ATP1 Vol 2 series), an international naval signal code adopted after the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was created in 1949. Until then, each navy had used its own signal code and operational manuals. World War II experience had shown that it was difficult, or even impossible, for ships of different navies to operate together unless they could readily communicate, and ACP 175 was designed to remedy this. In the U.S. Navy signal code, used before ACP 175, "well done" was signaled as TVG, or "Tare Victor George" in the U.S. phonetic alphabet of that time. ACP 175 was organized in the general manner of other signal books, that is, starting with 1-flag signals, then 2-flag and so on. The 2-flag signals were organized by general subject, starting with AA, AB, AC, ... AZ, BA, BB, BC, ... BZ, and so on. The B- signals were called "Administrative" signals, and dealt with miscellaneous matters of administration and housekeeping. The last signal on the "Administrative" page was BZ, standing for "well done". At that time BZ was not rendered as "Bravo Zulu", but in each navy's particular phonetic alphabet. In the U.S. Navy, BZ was spoken as "Baker Zebra". In the meanwhile, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) had adopted English as the international air traffic control language. They developed a phonetic alphabet for international aviation use, designed to be as "pronounceable" as possible by flyers and traffic controllers speaking many different languages. This was the "Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta..." alphabet used today. The Navy adopted this ICAO alphabet in March 1956. It was then that "Baker Zebra" finally became "Bravo Zulu". The hyper-critics are probably going to accuse you of trying to sell signal flags, but I found that very interesting. Thanks! -- ***** Have a super day! ***** * * * * * John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Shh! John, you'll spoil it for me. This week I earn $15,000 for mentioning "signal flags" in rec.boats, plus a $500 bonus for every hit on the thread. Pretty good gig, don't you think? :-) |
Bravo Zulu
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:33:39 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
Good job, but that's the military one. What's the police phonetic alphabet? "Drop it and spread 'em" Eisboch LOL Two of my brothers were cops. That's the only reason I knew there were two versions. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
Bravo Zulu
:) -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
Bravo Zulu
On Feb 2, 9:12 am, JLH wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:29:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Feb 1, 9:46 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered that the signal does *not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: Sometimes, Wikipedia actually has it right. It amazes me that people still manage to mangle the phonetic alphabet. Listen to some of the emergency responders around here, you really begin to wonder about their backgrounds. One in particular uses Heroin instead of Hotel. :) Come to think of it, how many people actually know the phonetic alphabet - probably not many. Without looking 'em up .... Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliett K???? (can't remember) Kilo? Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu Eisboch (with and "Echo") Good job, but that's the military one. What's the police phonetic alphabet?http://www.police-scanner.info/gloss...c_alphabet.htm -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Um....I have never heard of a law enforcement phonetic alphabet. It would seem to me to be counter productive with all the first names. |
Bravo Zulu
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:16:07 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:35:37 -0500, JLH wrote: On 2 Feb 2007 15:45:37 -0800, wrote: On Feb 2, 9:12 am, JLH wrote: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:29:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Feb 1, 9:46 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered that the signal does *not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: Sometimes, Wikipedia actually has it right. It amazes me that people still manage to mangle the phonetic alphabet. Listen to some of the emergency responders around here, you really begin to wonder about their backgrounds. One in particular uses Heroin instead of Hotel. :) Come to think of it, how many people actually know the phonetic alphabet - probably not many. Without looking 'em up .... Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliett K???? (can't remember) Kilo? Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu Eisboch (with and "Echo") Good job, but that's the military one. What's the police phonetic alphabet? http://www.police-scanner.info/gloss...c_alphabet.htm -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Um....I have never heard of a law enforcement phonetic alphabet. It would seem to me to be counter productive with all the first names. Well, check out the link. I honestly didn't make 'em up! Some of us are still sticking with able, baker, charlie, dog and easy. Probably still think the M1 is the most modern rifle around, too. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
Bravo Zulu
On Feb 2, 12:07�pm, JLH wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:33:39 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Good job, but that's the military one. What's the police phonetic alphabet? "Drop it and spread 'em" Eisboch LOL Two of my brothers were cops. That's the only reason I knew there were two versions. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** * * * * * John H "Drop it and spread 'em" that's text book. Street wise it would translate to: FREEZE A$$HOLE! ... UP AGAINST THE WALL!!!" But Matt Dillon on Gunsmoke set the western standard: "Alright, hold it right there" That is unless you're in Hawaii, and it's : "Book 'em, Dano! |
Bravo Zulu
On Feb 2, 8:56�pm, JLH wrote:
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:16:07 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:35:37 -0500, JLH wrote: On 2 Feb 2007 15:45:37 -0800, wrote: On Feb 2, 9:12 am, JLH wrote: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:29:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Feb 1, 9:46 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered that the signal does **not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: Sometimes, Wikipedia actually has it right. It amazes me that people still manage to mangle the phonetic alphabet. Listen to some of the emergency responders around here, you really begin to wonder about their backgrounds. One in particular uses Heroin instead of Hotel. *:) Come to think of it, how many people actually know the phonetic alphabet - probably not many. Without looking 'em up .... Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliett K???? *(can't remember) *Kilo? Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu Eisboch *(with and "Echo") Good job, but that's the military one. What's the police phonetic alphabet?http://www.police-scanner.info/gloss...c_alphabet.htm -- ***** Have a super day! ***** * * * * * John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Um....I have never heard of a law enforcement phonetic alphabet. *It would seem to me to be counter productive with all the first names. Well, check out the link. I honestly didn't make 'em up! Some of us are still sticking with able, baker, charlie, dog and easy. Probably still think the M1 is the most modern rifle around, too. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** * * * * * John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - maybe not the most modern, John, but at 400 m. I't take it over a M16A1 or 2 anyday... |
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Tim wrote:
On Feb 2, 8:56�pm, JLH wrote: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:16:07 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:35:37 -0500, JLH wrote: On 2 Feb 2007 15:45:37 -0800, wrote: On Feb 2, 9:12 am, JLH wrote: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:29:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 1, 9:46 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered that the signal does �*not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: Sometimes, Wikipedia actually has it right. It amazes me that people still manage to mangle the phonetic alphabet. Listen to some of the emergency responders around here, you really begin to wonder about their backgrounds. One in particular uses Heroin instead of Hotel. �:) Come to think of it, how many people actually know the phonetic alphabet - probably not many. Without looking 'em up .... Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliett K???? �(can't remember) �Kilo? Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu Eisboch �(with and "Echo") Good job, but that's the military one. What's the police phonetic alphabet?http://www.police-scanner.info/gloss...c_alphabet.htm -- ***** Have a super day! ***** � � � � � John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Um....I have never heard of a law enforcement phonetic alphabet. �It would seem to me to be counter productive with all the first names. Well, check out the link. I honestly didn't make 'em up! Some of us are still sticking with able, baker, charlie, dog and easy. Probably still think the M1 is the most modern rifle around, too. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** � � � � � John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - maybe not the most modern, John, but at 400 m. I't take it over a M16A1 or 2 anyday... Which would you rather take on a 5 mi motivational run? Would you rather carry 120 rounds of M14 ammo or M16 ammo? |
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On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:36:31 -0500, BAR wrote:
Tim wrote: On Feb 2, 8:56?pm, JLH wrote: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:16:07 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:35:37 -0500, JLH wrote: On 2 Feb 2007 15:45:37 -0800, wrote: On Feb 2, 9:12 am, JLH wrote: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:29:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 1, 9:46 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered that the signal does ?*not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: Sometimes, Wikipedia actually has it right. It amazes me that people still manage to mangle the phonetic alphabet. Listen to some of the emergency responders around here, you really begin to wonder about their backgrounds. One in particular uses Heroin instead of Hotel. ?:) Come to think of it, how many people actually know the phonetic alphabet - probably not many. Without looking 'em up .... Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliett K???? ?(can't remember) ?Kilo? Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu Eisboch ?(with and "Echo") Good job, but that's the military one. What's the police phonetic alphabet?http://www.police-scanner.info/gloss...c_alphabet.htm -- ***** Have a super day! ***** ? ? ? ? ? John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Um....I have never heard of a law enforcement phonetic alphabet. ?It would seem to me to be counter productive with all the first names. Well, check out the link. I honestly didn't make 'em up! Some of us are still sticking with able, baker, charlie, dog and easy. Probably still think the M1 is the most modern rifle around, too. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** ? ? ? ? ? John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - maybe not the most modern, John, but at 400 m. I't take it over a M16A1 or 2 anyday... Which would you rather take on a 5 mi motivational run? Would you rather carry 120 rounds of M14 ammo or M16 ammo? With the M14 you only need half the ammo, or less. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
Bravo Zulu
On 2 Feb 2007 20:26:05 -0800, "Tim" wrote:
On Feb 2, 8:56?pm, JLH wrote: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:16:07 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:35:37 -0500, JLH wrote: On 2 Feb 2007 15:45:37 -0800, wrote: On Feb 2, 9:12 am, JLH wrote: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:29:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Feb 1, 9:46 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Had occasion to verify the meaning of "Bravo Zulu", and discovered that the signal does *not* date back to WWII, at least according to the following source. Some interesting comments about the evolution of the phonetic alphabet are included: Sometimes, Wikipedia actually has it right. It amazes me that people still manage to mangle the phonetic alphabet. Listen to some of the emergency responders around here, you really begin to wonder about their backgrounds. One in particular uses Heroin instead of Hotel. :) Come to think of it, how many people actually know the phonetic alphabet - probably not many. Without looking 'em up .... Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliett K???? (can't remember) ilo? Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Yankee Zulu Eisboch (with and "Echo") Good job, but that's the military one. What's the police phonetic alphabet?http://www.police-scanner.info/gloss...c_alphabet.htm -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Um....I have never heard of a law enforcement phonetic alphabet. t would seem to me to be counter productive with all the first names. Well, check out the link. I honestly didn't make 'em up! Some of us are still sticking with able, baker, charlie, dog and easy. Probably still think the M1 is the most modern rifle around, too. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - maybe not the most modern, John, but at 400 m. I't take it over a M16A1 or 2 anyday... I couldn't say. I qualified with the M14. The M1 was long gone by the time I got drafted. But, at 400 m, I'd sure take the M14 over the M16. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
Bravo Zulu
"Tim" wrote in message ps.com... On Feb 2, 12:07?pm, JLH wrote: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:33:39 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Good job, but that's the military one. What's the police phonetic alphabet? "Drop it and spread 'em" Eisboch LOL Two of my brothers were cops. That's the only reason I knew there were two versions. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H "Drop it and spread 'em" that's text book. Street wise it would translate to: FREEZE A$$HOLE! ... UP AGAINST THE WALL!!!" But Matt Dillon on Gunsmoke set the western standard: "Alright, hold it right there" That is unless you're in Hawaii, and it's : "Book 'em, Dano! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Do you feel lucky today? Well do ya punk?" |
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JLH wrote: maybe not the most modern, John, but at 400 m. I't take it over a M16A1 or 2 anyday... I couldn't say. I qualified with the M14. The M1 was long gone by the time I got drafted. But, at 400 m, I'd sure take the M14 over the M16. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H John, I I wasn't privy to the M14. But I do own a great specimen of an M! and used the M16. agreed. There is no comparison. |
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John, if you could qualify with the M14, then an M1 would be a
breeze. JLH wrote: maybe not the most modern, John, but at 400 m. I't take it over a M16A1 or 2 anyday... I couldn't say. I qualified with the M14. The M1 was long gone by the time I got drafted. But, at 400 m, I'd sure take the M14 over the M16. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
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JLH wrote:
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. |
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On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote:
JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
Bravo Zulu
JLH wrote:
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote: JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. Today no! Too frigging cold and windy and it just barley broke freezing. Today I have been watching golf on my new 40" LCD HDTV. All of the HD channels are amazing. Can't wait to watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. |
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On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:16:34 -0500, BAR wrote:
JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote: JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. Today no! Too frigging cold and windy and it just barley broke freezing. Today I have been watching golf on my new 40" LCD HDTV. All of the HD channels are amazing. Can't wait to watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. Yeah, I've got the FBR Open going now. I think football games is where HDTV really shows its stuff. The reflections from the helmets were the first big difference I noticed. I never before realized how well shined those guys kept their helmets. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote: JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. Today no! Too frigging cold and windy and it just barley broke freezing. Today I have been watching golf on my new 40" LCD HDTV. All of the HD channels are amazing. Can't wait to watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. You did order the HD option from your cable provider...... We only get 10 HD channels out of approx 100 here. |
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On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:10:05 GMT, "Don White"
wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote: JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. Today no! Too frigging cold and windy and it just barley broke freezing. Today I have been watching golf on my new 40" LCD HDTV. All of the HD channels are amazing. Can't wait to watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. You did order the HD option from your cable provider...... We only get 10 HD channels out of approx 100 here. Yeah, we get a special box. Costs more too. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
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"JLH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:10:05 GMT, "Don White" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message m... JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote: JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. Today no! Too frigging cold and windy and it just barley broke freezing. Today I have been watching golf on my new 40" LCD HDTV. All of the HD channels are amazing. Can't wait to watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. You did order the HD option from your cable provider...... We only get 10 HD channels out of approx 100 here. Yeah, we get a special box. Costs more too. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H The other trick is to make sure the tv is set to 1080i. I see some new ones are 1080p ...not sure of the difference. |
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Don White wrote:
"JLH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:10:05 GMT, "Don White" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message om... JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote: JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. Today no! Too frigging cold and windy and it just barley broke freezing. Today I have been watching golf on my new 40" LCD HDTV. All of the HD channels are amazing. Can't wait to watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. You did order the HD option from your cable provider...... We only get 10 HD channels out of approx 100 here. Yeah, we get a special box. Costs more too. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H The other trick is to make sure the tv is set to 1080i. I see some new ones are 1080p ...not sure of the difference. Interlaced vs Progressive scan. http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6361600-1.html I have 1080p but it will only work with a HD or Blu-ray DVD player. They are in the USD$1000 range right now so I'll wait for the market to settle on a format (this is like the VHS/Betamax contest years ago) and we'll all see the prices drop to nothing. At least my television is compatible with either format. |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote: JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. Today no! Too frigging cold and windy and it just barley broke freezing. Today I have been watching golf on my new 40" LCD HDTV. All of the HD channels are amazing. Can't wait to watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. Frosty this morning, so did not get to working on the new boat floor until this afternoon. Maybe got up to 60. Been cold this winter. |
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On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote:
I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) I was top gun on the rifle range in my basic training platoon using an M14. Great rifle, deadly accurate out to 300 yards using the standard open sight. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message . .. JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote: JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. Today no! Too frigging cold and windy and it just barley broke freezing. Today I have been watching golf on my new 40" LCD HDTV. All of the HD channels are amazing. Can't wait to watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. Frosty this morning, so did not get to working on the new boat floor until this afternoon. Maybe got up to 60. Been cold this winter. The weather guessers are predicting that the high on Monday may be 20*F in the DC area. |
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On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 00:20:37 -0500, BAR wrote:
Calif Bill wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote: JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. Today no! Too frigging cold and windy and it just barley broke freezing. Today I have been watching golf on my new 40" LCD HDTV. All of the HD channels are amazing. Can't wait to watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. Frosty this morning, so did not get to working on the new boat floor until this afternoon. Maybe got up to 60. Been cold this winter. The weather guessers are predicting that the high on Monday may be 20*F in the DC area. It's exactly that right now. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
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"JLH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 00:20:37 -0500, BAR wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote: JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. Today no! Too frigging cold and windy and it just barley broke freezing. Today I have been watching golf on my new 40" LCD HDTV. All of the HD channels are amazing. Can't wait to watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. Frosty this morning, so did not get to working on the new boat floor until this afternoon. Maybe got up to 60. Been cold this winter. The weather guessers are predicting that the high on Monday may be 20*F in the DC area. It's exactly that right now. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H Warmed up enough that I am going out to work on the new floor for the boat. |
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On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:30:03 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "JLH" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 00:20:37 -0500, BAR wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote: JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. Today no! Too frigging cold and windy and it just barley broke freezing. Today I have been watching golf on my new 40" LCD HDTV. All of the HD channels are amazing. Can't wait to watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. Frosty this morning, so did not get to working on the new boat floor until this afternoon. Maybe got up to 60. Been cold this winter. The weather guessers are predicting that the high on Monday may be 20*F in the DC area. It's exactly that right now. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H Warmed up enough that I am going out to work on the new floor for the boat. Well, we're a degree over freezing, so I went and hit a bucket of balls. Can't do anything on the boat as it's unavailable on weekends, being in a boatel. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
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"JLH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:30:03 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JLH" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 00:20:37 -0500, BAR wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:59:41 -0500, BAR wrote: JLH wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:56:26 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:22:31 -0500, JLH wrote: I also loved the M14, as my expert badge shows! -- Same here, in fact I still own one, in semi-auto (M1A) Cool. What do you do with it? He most likely spends all of his quality time with his M14 using a cleaning kit on it. Did you get to a course today? I managed to hit a big bucket. Felt good. Can't wait for warm weather. Today no! Too frigging cold and windy and it just barley broke freezing. Today I have been watching golf on my new 40" LCD HDTV. All of the HD channels are amazing. Can't wait to watch the Super Bowl tomorrow. Frosty this morning, so did not get to working on the new boat floor until this afternoon. Maybe got up to 60. Been cold this winter. The weather guessers are predicting that the high on Monday may be 20*F in the DC area. It's exactly that right now. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H Warmed up enough that I am going out to work on the new floor for the boat. Well, we're a degree over freezing, so I went and hit a bucket of balls. Can't do anything on the boat as it's unavailable on weekends, being in a boatel. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H Just came in from a beautiful day in the sun working on the boat. Unfortunately expensive day in the sun. Find a corrosion pin hole in the top of the fuel tank. Other corrosion spots not leaking, so heres another $5-800 for a tank. 67 gallon aluminum. |
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