On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:29:49 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Just get an old Bridgeport, clean it up and put a large lampshade on the
motor.

Heh, you first.

There are knowledgeable and
published posters that read rec.boats and associated newsgroups that
stopped, on advice from their attorneys, posting to other web based
forums that had similar TOS.

Really? Cite examples.

wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:01:12 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

There are knowledgeable and
published posters that read rec.boats and associated newsgroups that
stopped, on advice from their attorneys, posting to other web based
forums that had similar TOS.
Really? Cite examples.

Want to start with Peggie Hall?

Peggie Hall continues to use and post advice to other boating NG's,
including non moderated UseNet forums. When Peggie left rec.boats.
she was very adamant why she stopped posting in rec.boats. She was
tired of the personal inflammatory attacks by one of more (at the time,
the most) prolific regulars in rec.boats.

The personal, inflammatory attacks, and the off topic political
bickering that was the norm in rec.boats for so many years is reason why
most of the professionals left rec.boats.

On Jan 26, 7:09*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:01:12 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

There are knowledgeable and
published posters that read rec.boats and associated newsgroups that
stopped, on advice from their attorneys, posting to other web based
forums that had similar TOS.
Really? *Cite examples.

Want to start with Peggie Hall?Peggie Hall continues to use and post advice to other boating NG's,
including non moderated UseNet forums. * * When Peggie left rec.boats.
she was very adamant why she stopped posting in rec.boats. *She was
tired of the personal inflammatory attacks by one of more (at the time,
the most) prolific regulars in rec.boats.

I had lunch with Peggie maybe a year and a half ago, and that is
essentially what she told me. When the subject of rec.boats came up
(very briefly) she referred to it as "(so-and-so's) group", and
remarked that she was not going to post here again. To be fair, I think
there were additional reasons as well. In addition to "so-and-so" and
the negative atmosphere created by non-stop political cut and pastes,
wars of the eternal flame, etc, she was regularly getting scorched by
another poster. That person is seldom seen here these days but he or
she had a highly refined ability to make extremely acidic remarks.


The personal, inflammatory attacks, and the off topic political
bickering that was the norm in rec.boats for so many years is reason why
most of the professionals left rec.boats.

And why it is important to discourage that type of behavior when we
can. The rec.boats NG should attract boaters, there are plenty of other
NG's where political BS is appropriate.

Chuck Gould wrote:
In addition to "so-and-so" and
the negative atmosphere created by non-stop political cut and pastes,
wars of the eternal flame, etc, she was regularly getting scorched by
another poster. That person is seldom seen here these days but he or
she had a highly refined ability to make extremely acidic remarks.


The personal, inflammatory attacks, and the off topic political
bickering that was the norm in rec.boats for so many years is reason why
most of the professionals left rec.boats.

I rememebr that. it was most unfortunate, and totally uncalled for.
Peggy has a wealth fo information, and from the times I've written to
her, on other places, she was most friendly and had great advice.

And why it is important to discourage that type of behavior when we
can. The rec.boats NG should attract boaters, there are plenty of other
NG's where political BS is appropriate.

agreed.

Bill Kearney wrote:
There are knowledgeable and
published posters that read rec.boats and associated newsgroups that
stopped, on advice from their attorneys, posting to other web based
forums that had similar TOS.

Really? Cite examples.

I want to see the "TOS" for rec.boats or for any other USENET newsgroup.

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:16:26 -0500, Bert Robbins
wrote:

Bill Kearney wrote:
There are knowledgeable and
published posters that read rec.boats and associated newsgroups that
stopped, on advice from their attorneys, posting to other web based
forums that had similar TOS.

Really? Cite examples.

I want to see the "TOS" for rec.boats or for any other USENET newsgroup.

Most USENET newsgroups have a charter that outlines what is and is not
acceptable to post in the group. Unfortunately, rec.boats does not
have a charter. So really, there is no such thing as an off topic
post in rec.boats. Anything goes.

Now, your ISP probably (most do) have a TOS that spells out a lot of
things you can't do. You should check your individual ISP's TOS.

Steve

Steve wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:16:26 -0500, Bert Robbins
wrote:

Bill Kearney wrote:
There are knowledgeable and
published posters that read rec.boats and associated newsgroups that
stopped, on advice from their attorneys, posting to other web based
forums that had similar TOS.
Really? Cite examples.
I want to see the "TOS" for rec.boats or for any other USENET newsgroup.

Most USENET newsgroups have a charter that outlines what is and is not
acceptable to post in the group. Unfortunately, rec.boats does not
have a charter. So really, there is no such thing as an off topic
post in rec.boats. Anything goes.

How do you enforce acceptable and not acceptable for USENET charters
that were written and approved, by vote of the UUNet/Internet masses 20
years ago.

Do you remember the Richard Depew(sp?) incident of the early 90's?

Now, your ISP probably (most do) have a TOS that spells out a lot of
things you can't do. You should check your individual ISP's TOS.

Only if you are threatening someone. If you are just being an asshole
then they won't do anything.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 18:21:58 -0500, Bert Robbins
wrote:

Do you remember the Richard Depew(sp?) incident of the early 90's?

I do - it was an interesting application.

I bet 'cha can't guess who uses cancelbots currently (without looking
it up that is).

You are correct, I have no idea who is using cancelbots today. I just
remember that I was involved in tiff with The Dick about his actions. He
said that he had been appointed/approved as a net cop by somebody I
can't remember. I asked to see his badge and he said he didn't have one.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:16:16 -0500, Bert Robbins
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 18:21:58 -0500, Bert Robbins
wrote:

Do you remember the Richard Depew(sp?) incident of the early 90's?
I do - it was an interesting application.

I bet 'cha can't guess who uses cancelbots currently (without looking
it up that is).
You are correct, I have no idea who is using cancelbots today.

The Church of Scientology. They use something called Cancelbunny.

That makes sense due to the fact that their religious texts are
copyrighted. I have never understood the purchasing of salvation or
enlightenment.

I just remember that I was involved in tiff with The Dick about his actions.
He said that he had been appointed/approved as a net cop by
somebody I can't remember. I asked to see his badge and he said he
didn't have one.

Usenet was much more interesting in those days. :)

The vote No wars to prevent new groups from being created. Hooking up to
a UUCP site via a 1200 bps modem. Telling people there wasn't enough
space on the news server for the group to have more than 1 days worth of
messages. That was back when UNIX admins were Kings.