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Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.

raise your own livestock; commercial farmers rape the land ;-)

Shaun



Yeah. Farmers, too.

Cattlemen and farmers do not deplete a resource without replacing it. Can
you say the same about commercial fisherman?

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Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.

raise your own livestock; commercial farmers rape the land ;-)

Shaun



Yeah. Farmers, too.

Cattlemen and farmers do not deplete a resource without replacing it. Can
you say the same about commercial fisherman?


Farmers USED to deplete resources. Cattlemen still do, depending on which
beef you're referring to. Quite a bit of beef comes from Latin America,
where rain forests have been replaced with grazing land whose products feed
just one industry: Fast food.

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Farmers USED to deplete resources. Cattlemen still do, depending on which
beef you're referring to. Quite a bit of beef comes from Latin America,
where rain forests have been replaced with grazing land whose products
feed just one industry: Fast food.


On the other hand, recently released studies indicate that the negative
impact of cutting down forests, including tropical rain forests, have been
greatly overestimated in the past. The total amount is insignificant in the
grand scheme of things and, surprisingly, cutting down old trees allows new
trees to grow that have much greater positive impacts on the atmosphere and
environment. The overall effect is positive.

Another case of over-zealous doomsayers?

Eisboch

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Farmers USED to deplete resources. Cattlemen still do, depending on which
beef you're referring to. Quite a bit of beef comes from Latin America,
where rain forests have been replaced with grazing land whose products
feed just one industry: Fast food.


On the other hand, recently released studies indicate that the negative
impact of cutting down forests, including tropical rain forests, have been
greatly overestimated in the past. The total amount is insignificant in
the grand scheme of things and, surprisingly, cutting down old trees
allows new trees to grow that have much greater positive impacts on the
atmosphere and environment. The overall effect is positive.

Another case of over-zealous doomsayers?

Eisboch


Maybe, but new trees do not grow on grazing land. Otherwise, it would not be
useful as grazing land.

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Farmers USED to deplete resources. Cattlemen still do, depending on
which beef you're referring to. Quite a bit of beef comes from Latin
America, where rain forests have been replaced with grazing land whose
products feed just one industry: Fast food.


On the other hand, recently released studies indicate that the negative
impact of cutting down forests, including tropical rain forests, have
been greatly overestimated in the past. The total amount is
insignificant in the grand scheme of things and, surprisingly, cutting
down old trees allows new trees to grow that have much greater positive
impacts on the atmosphere and environment. The overall effect is
positive.

Another case of over-zealous doomsayers?

Eisboch


Maybe, but new trees do not grow on grazing land. Otherwise, it would not
be useful as grazing land.

Agreed, but the amount that has been cut down is, according to the study,
"insignificant" in terms of negative effects on the environment. Something
like 90 percent of the forests remain, even after 40 something years of
creating new grazing land. And the older, abandoned grazing land is
supporting growth of new forests that convert more CO2 to O2 than old
forests as they grow.

Eisboch

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Farmers USED to deplete resources. Cattlemen still do, depending on
which beef you're referring to. Quite a bit of beef comes from Latin
America, where rain forests have been replaced with grazing land whose
products feed just one industry: Fast food.


On the other hand, recently released studies indicate that the negative
impact of cutting down forests, including tropical rain forests, have
been greatly overestimated in the past. The total amount is
insignificant in the grand scheme of things and, surprisingly, cutting
down old trees allows new trees to grow that have much greater positive
impacts on the atmosphere and environment. The overall effect is
positive.

Another case of over-zealous doomsayers?

Eisboch


Maybe, but new trees do not grow on grazing land. Otherwise, it would not
be useful as grazing land.

Agreed, but the amount that has been cut down is, according to the study,
"insignificant" in terms of negative effects on the environment.
Something like 90 percent of the forests remain, even after 40 something
years of creating new grazing land. And the older, abandoned grazing land
is supporting growth of new forests that convert more CO2 to O2 than old
forests as they grow.

Eisboch


OK.

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Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.

raise your own livestock; commercial farmers rape the land ;-)

Shaun



Yeah. Farmers, too.

Cattlemen and farmers do not deplete a resource without replacing it.
Can you say the same about commercial fisherman?


Farmers USED to deplete resources.


And then along came George Washington Carver.



Cattlemen still do, depending on which beef you're referring to. Quite a
bit of beef comes from Latin America, where rain forests have been replaced
with grazing land whose products feed just one industry: Fast food.


The reproduction process of cattle is nursed along by cattle owners. The
same can't be said about the commercial fishermen.

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Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.

raise your own livestock; commercial farmers rape the land ;-)

Shaun



Yeah. Farmers, too.

Cattlemen and farmers do not deplete a resource without replacing it.
Can you say the same about commercial fisherman?


Farmers USED to deplete resources.


And then along came George Washington Carver.


Not really.