JimH wrote:
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Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.



I agree.

Jim, can I then assume you don't eat any seafood that doesn't come out
of Lake Michigan?
On the end of your personal fishing line?

No Alaska King Crab, Louisiana shrimp, or even tuna fish for you. :-)
Bummer.

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NOYB wrote:
Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.



Hmm. So unless a person is wealthy enough to have an offshore fishing
boat similar to something that might be owned by a dentist down in
Naples, FL and the luxury of enough time to use it, he or she should
not be able to eat fish?

Is Mrs. NOYB's name Marie ("let them eat cake") Antoinette? :-)

Consider this: There would be a lot less infrastructure to support
sport fisheries if the same infrastructure couldn't be at least
partially justified as a support for commerce. Commercial and sports
fisheries, properly managed with an eye toward conservation in a
perfect world, should be able to coexist.


It's there, or close, in some places. Read "The Secret Life of Lobsters", in
which officials from the state of Maine, who've never fished for lobsters
attempt to tell lobstermen about conservation, and end up learning that the
lobstermen already had a pretty good system in place to begin with. Now,
they cooperate instead of argue.

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JimH wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
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Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.



I agree.

Jim, can I then assume you don't eat any seafood that doesn't come out
of Lake Michigan?
On the end of your personal fishing line?

No Alaska King Crab, Louisiana shrimp, or even tuna fish for you. :-)
Bummer.


NP Chuck. I boat and fish on Lake Erie, not Lake Michigan.

Just because I eat fish does not mean the commercial fishermen are not
raping the waters. They sure are on Lake Erie.

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
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Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.



I agree.

Jim, can I then assume you don't eat any seafood that doesn't come out
of Lake Michigan?
On the end of your personal fishing line?

No Alaska King Crab, Louisiana shrimp, or even tuna fish for you. :-)
Bummer.


NP Chuck. I boat and fish on Lake Erie, not Lake Michigan.

Just because I eat fish does not mean the commercial fishermen are not
raping the waters. They sure are on Lake Erie.

Lake Erie. duh, of course. Zero points to Gould for geography.

So you agree with NOYB that commerical fishermen are raping the waters,
but disagree with NOYB that everybody should catch his or her own fish.
Thanks for the clarification.

Hope your recovery is progressing.

"JimH" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
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Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.



I agree.

Jim, can I then assume you don't eat any seafood that doesn't come out
of Lake Michigan?
On the end of your personal fishing line?

No Alaska King Crab, Louisiana shrimp, or even tuna fish for you. :-)
Bummer.


NP Chuck. I boat and fish on Lake Erie, not Lake Michigan.

Just because I eat fish does not mean the commercial fishermen are not
raping the waters. They sure are on Lake Erie.


What do commercial fishermen catch on Lake Erie?

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JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
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Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.



I agree.

Jim, can I then assume you don't eat any seafood that doesn't come out
of Lake Michigan?
On the end of your personal fishing line?

No Alaska King Crab, Louisiana shrimp, or even tuna fish for you. :-)
Bummer.


NP Chuck. I boat and fish on Lake Erie, not Lake Michigan.

Just because I eat fish does not mean the commercial fishermen are not
raping the waters. They sure are on Lake Erie.

Lake Erie. duh, of course. Zero points to Gould for geography.

So you agree with NOYB that commerical fishermen are raping the waters,
but disagree with NOYB that everybody should catch his or her own fish.


Yes.



Hope your recovery is progressing.


Thanks.

NOYB wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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When inconvenienced by a net set, a field of pots, etc. it might be
appropriate to consider the following statistics from the FEDGOV. To
bring us a fish dinner, commercial fishermen suffer a higher percentage
of on the job fatalities than any other group.

**********

America's Most Dangerous Jobs
Laura Morsch, CareerBuilder.com writer
For many of us, the most dangerous part of the workday is the commute
-- followed closely by teetering on stiletto heels.

Nationwide, most employees have a miniscule chance of being killed at
work. There were just four fatal occupational injuries per 100,000
workers in the United States in 2005, according to preliminary data
from the U.S. Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics.

That, of course, is just the average. For some workers -- soldiers in
combat, for example -- every day is a life-threatening one. But on the
domestic front, the most dangerous jobs are less obvious.


Presidents:

8 died while in office...4 from natural causes and 4 by assassination.

If you just use the number who have been assassinated, that's 4 out of
43...for a mortality rate of 9,302 (per 100,000 workers).

Average salary: $400,000.

At least it pays well.

I'm surprised you missed the obvious factor in the equation. The
occupational loss of life for the other occupations are on an annual
basis. Regardless of the indivdual holding the office at any given
time, I think most Americans are very thankful that the typical annual
mortality for POTUS is *zero*.

Funny how inflation changes things. An experienced french fry jockey,
aka "assistant manager" at the local fast food joint now makes as many
$$ per year as Abe Lincoln made as President. (Presidential salary was
$25,000). Most white collar middle managers now outearn JFK's
presidential salary, ($100,000, plus a $50,000 expense account which
Kennedy refused to accept). It's doubtful the either the french fryer
or the second tier accountant would think they make enough money to
risk getting shot on the job. :-)

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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
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Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.



I agree.

Jim, can I then assume you don't eat any seafood that doesn't come out
of Lake Michigan?
On the end of your personal fishing line?

No Alaska King Crab, Louisiana shrimp, or even tuna fish for you. :-)
Bummer.


NP Chuck. I boat and fish on Lake Erie, not Lake Michigan.

Just because I eat fish does not mean the commercial fishermen are not
raping the waters. They sure are on Lake Erie.

Lake Erie. duh, of course. Zero points to Gould for geography.

So you agree with NOYB that commerical fishermen are raping the waters,
but disagree with NOYB that everybody should catch his or her own fish.
Thanks for the clarification.

I don't think that everybody whould catch his/her own fish. But curbs need
to be imposed on commercial fishing.

The commercial guys take 89% of the grouper out of the Gulf...yet they keep
reducing the limits for recreational anglers.


That makes no sense.

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JimH wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
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Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.



I agree.

Jim, can I then assume you don't eat any seafood that doesn't come out
of Lake Michigan?
On the end of your personal fishing line?

No Alaska King Crab, Louisiana shrimp, or even tuna fish for you. :-)
Bummer.


NP Chuck. I boat and fish on Lake Erie, not Lake Michigan.

Just because I eat fish does not mean the commercial fishermen are not
raping the waters. They sure are on Lake Erie.


What do commercial fishermen catch on Lake Erie?

Mercury-laden fish.

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JimH wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
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Catch your own fish. Or eat beef. Commercial guys rape the waters.



I agree.

Jim, can I then assume you don't eat any seafood that doesn't come out
of Lake Michigan?
On the end of your personal fishing line?

No Alaska King Crab, Louisiana shrimp, or even tuna fish for you. :-)
Bummer.


NP Chuck. I boat and fish on Lake Erie, not Lake Michigan.

Just because I eat fish does not mean the commercial fishermen are not
raping the waters. They sure are on Lake Erie.


What do commercial fishermen catch on Lake Erie?

Mercury-laden fish.



Speaking of mercury exposure.....nice to hear from you again.