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A mongrel political state is doomed to perpetual disorder.

Max


Tell me about the first of your ancestors who came here. Where were they
from? What countries?


I have direct Native American ancestors on both sides of my family,
one within two generations. Which legally allows me to claim Native
American status.

So with that in mind...

EVERYBODY GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!!


Is that your Casino up thar on the hill? What will become of it when we all
leave for happier hunting grounds.


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On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:13:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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A mongrel political state is doomed to perpetual disorder.

Max


Tell me about the first of your ancestors who came here. Where were they
from? What countries?


I have direct Native American ancestors on both sides of my family,
one within two generations. Which legally allows me to claim Native
American status.

So with that in mind...

EVERYBODY GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!!


So you're 100% Native American? And where did those Native Americans
come from?

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On 17 Jan 2007 07:34:05 -0800, "basskisser"
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JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:13:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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A mongrel political state is doomed to perpetual disorder.

Max

Tell me about the first of your ancestors who came here. Where were they
from? What countries?


Hey Doug...haven't we put up with enough **** because of your cross posting
antics?

I challange you to accept personal responsibility to be an on topic
poster here and not a liability to the newsgroup.


This couldn't possibly be Basskisser - got to be an imposter. :)


'challange' ?

Either basskisser or Don White.
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The REALLY funny thing is, I copied that verbatim from John's post!!!!!!

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As odd as this sounds, Navaho on my mother's side (two back) and
Cherokee (four back) on my father's side.


I believe Navajo is the preferred spelling, although your version is
sometimes found in English writings.


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Tom Francis wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:13:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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A mongrel political state is doomed to perpetual disorder.

Max

Tell me about the first of your ancestors who came here. Where were they
from? What countries?

I have direct Native American ancestors on both sides of my family,
one within two generations. Which legally allows me to claim Native
American status.

So with that in mind...

EVERYBODY GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!!


So you're 100% Native American?


Didn't say that - I said legally claim Native American as my ethnic
choice. I suppose, although I've never looked into it, that I could
also claim Hispanic also as one of the Grandmothers is Mexican.


Are you really saying that if anyone states that they have any Native
American blood in them at all, that they can claim that status? Where
ARE we going to put those millions upon millions of casinos?

And where did those Native Americans come from?


Mars.


Typical.......



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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 17 Jan 2007 08:59:54 -0800, "basskisser"
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Tom Francis wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:13:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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A mongrel political state is doomed to perpetual disorder.

Max
Tell me about the first of your ancestors who came here. Where were they
from? What countries?
I have direct Native American ancestors on both sides of my family,
one within two generations. Which legally allows me to claim Native
American status.

So with that in mind...

EVERYBODY GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!!
So you're 100% Native American?

Didn't say that - I said legally claim Native American as my ethnic
choice. I suppose, although I've never looked into it, that I could
also claim Hispanic also as one of the Grandmothers is Mexican.


Are you really saying that if anyone states that they have any Native
American blood in them at all, that they can claim that status? Where
ARE we going to put those millions upon millions of casinos?

And where did those Native Americans come from?

Mars.


Typical.......

lol, the Indian casinos can only be placed on Indian reservations. Even
if you are 100% Native American, you can not open a casino off of the
reservation. Do you try to be so humorous or does it just come naturally.
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We can thank boating, indirectly, for advancing our knowledge about the
earliest "known" inhabitants of North America- a group that is not
related to the Asian immigrants that came to be called "native
Americans".

Some people were watching a boat race in Eastern Washington when part
of the riverbank upon which they were standing gave way and revealed
some skeletal remains. Naturally, they called the cops.

No criminal investigation was warranted, however, even though a close
examination of the skeleton revealed that someone had been the victim
of violence. (There was a spear point lodged in the skelton's thigh
bone). Through carbon dating, it was established that the skeleton was
over 9,000 years old and among the oldest human remains ever discovered
in North America.

So, anybody who hopes to claim to go *way back* (!) in North America
would more than likely look a lot like this:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/first/kennewick.html

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On 1/17/2007 12:24 PM, RG wrote:
As odd as this sounds, Navaho on my mother's side (two back) and
Cherokee (four back) on my father's side.


I believe Navajo is the preferred spelling, although your version is
sometimes found in English writings.


Either spelling is correct usage for Anglos. The Native Americans
themselves tend not to use either word amongst themselves. The word
derives from Tewa Navahú, the name referring to a large area of land and
to the people who lived on the land. Navajo is a Spanish word, coined as
part of the phrase Apaches de Navajo, which the 17th Century Spaniards
used to differentiate one Apache band and area from another.


.....which indirectly explains the "J" in Navajo: It's sounded the way we
pronounce "H".


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Tom Francis wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:13:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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A mongrel political state is doomed to perpetual disorder.

Max

Tell me about the first of your ancestors who came here. Where were
they
from? What countries?

I have direct Native American ancestors on both sides of my family,
one within two generations. Which legally allows me to claim Native
American status.

So with that in mind...

EVERYBODY GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!!


So you're 100% Native American?


Didn't say that - I said legally claim Native American as my ethnic
choice. I suppose, although I've never looked into it, that I could
also claim Hispanic also as one of the Grandmothers is Mexican.

And where did those Native Americans come from?


Mars.


Up here you could save the 14% HST tax applied to all goods & services.


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Harry Krause wrote:
On 1/17/2007 12:24 PM, RG wrote:
As odd as this sounds, Navaho on my mother's side (two back) and
Cherokee (four back) on my father's side.


I believe Navajo is the preferred spelling, although your version is
sometimes found in English writings.


Either spelling is correct usage for Anglos. The Native Americans
themselves tend not to use either word amongst themselves. The word
derives from Tewa Navahú, the name referring to a large area of land and
to the people who lived on the land. Navajo is a Spanish word, coined as
part of the phrase Apaches de Navajo, which the 17th Century Spaniards
used to differentiate one Apache band and area from another.



It is amazing how quickly one call pull up everything one wants to know
about any subject.

Navajo. From Tewa Navahu, referring to a large area of cultivated land and applied to a former Tewa pueblo,

and by extension to the Navaho, known to the Spaniards as "Apaches de
Navajo," who intruded on the Tewa
domain or who lived in the vicinity, to distinguish them from other
so-called Apache bands.

Also called:

Bagowits, Southern Ute name.
Dacabimo, Hopi name.
Davaxo, Kiowa Apache name.
Dine', own name.
Djene, Laguna name.
Hua'amhu'u, Havasupai nnme.
I'hl-dene, Jicarilla name.
Moshome, Keresan name.
Oop, Oohp, Pima name.
Pagowitch, southern Ute name, meaning "reed knives."
Ta-cab-ci-nyu-muh, Hopi name.
Ta'hli'mnin, Sandia name.
Tasamewa, Hopi name (Ten Kate, 1885) meaning "*******s."
Te'liemnim, Isleta name.
Tenye, Laguna name.
Wild Coyotes, Zuni nickname translated.
Yabipais Nsbajay, Garces (1776).
Yatilatlavi, Tonto name.
Yoetaha or Yutaha, Apache name, meaning "those who live on
the border of the Ute."
Yu-i'-ta, Panamint name.
Yutilap, Yavapai name.
Yutilatlawi, Tonto name

Connections.- With the Apache tribes, the Navaho formed the southern division of the Athapascan

linguistic family.

Location.- In northern New Mexico and Arizona with some extension into Colorado and Utah.

History.- Under the loosely applied name Apache there may be a record of this tribe as early

as 1598 but the first mention of them by the name of Navaho is by
Zarate-Salmeron about 1629.
Missionaries were among them about the middle of the eighteenth
century, but their labors
seem to have borne no fruits. For many years previous to the
occupation of their country by
the United States, the Navaho kept up an almost constant predatory war
with the Pueblo Indians and
``` the White settlers. A revolution in their economy was brought about
by the introduction of sheep.
Treaties of peace made by them with the United States Government in
1846 and 1849 were not observed,
and in 1863, in order to put a stop to their depredations, Col. "Kit"
Carson invaded their country,

from: http://jeff.scott.tripod.com/navajo.html
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