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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:28:48 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 1/15/2007 2:10 PM, Don White wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:

Chuck, WayneB and maybe another one or two are 'professional
boaters'...they
make their living on boats & the boating community.
They are not to be confused with lowly recreational boaters...
...or with non-boaters who hang around simply to make nasty personal
remarks in hopes of stirring up some crap. Been a long time since you
mentioned catching a ride with your friend that owned a sailboat.
Didn't he put that up for sale? What are your boating plans for 2007?-
(After the water thaws out, of course).


Thanks for asking.
Although our skipper was interested in purchasing another sailboat (last one
I knew about was a Bristol 32) I told him I couldn't be counted on as a
regular crew.
I have invested a few bucks in a new galvanized combo (bunk & roller
trailer) and leased a new Ford Ranger to pull my boat.
This year, I plan to do a lot of sailing along our coast, on the Bras d'Or
Lakes and maybe a long tow up to Ontario to attend the 2007 Sandpiper 565
Rendezvous. My recent concern is deciding what depth sounder to install.
I'm leaning toward the 'in hull' type rather than the 'tru hull' model.




Jesus. Chuck really has turned into a horse's ass.

Harry, your name-calling is better than ever! I'm sure Don will agree that
you're just the neatest guy on usenet!
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:30:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:11:16 GMT, "scbafreak via BoatKB.com"
u25927@uwe wrote:

If a person were to design thier own "pirate" flag and fly it as
part of a group of friends that all consider themselves to be sort of an
informal club, would you see that as being in poor taste or for non serious
boaters?

They already have them

They are called Yacht Club Burgees.

You have to remember, Chuck is from the Pacific Northwest where
everything is gray and the highlight of the day is nightfall so they
don't have to watch the rain anymore.

Mushrooms have more sense than people living in the "Great" Pacific
Northwest.

Tom, you're starting to sound very much like Harry here. It's not becoming
and very unlike you. Chuck didn't attack you (or Harry for that matter).
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On 15 Jan 2007 12:55:47 -0800, "Frogwatch" wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:50:30 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 1/15/2007 12:58 AM, Chuck Gould wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
Hmm, I wouldnt fly one myself but why would a Jolly Roger make anybody
look any more foolish than some of the faux sailing stuff people do.
Every time I see someone wearing a captains hat I groan inside thinking
"What a doofus".

I agree up to a point on the captain's hat. There's nothing wrong, IMO,
with wearing a cap with a bill to shade the eyes from sunlight. I guess
this could be a Hooter's cap, a Yankees cap, or a cap splattered with
white paint and embroidered with the phrase "damn seagulls!"! I wear a
simple, black, "Greek fisherman's" hat that isn't the least bit ornate.
Now, make that a high white hat with a shiny black bill, a fouled
anchor on the crown and even the first suggestion of "scrambled eggs"
and I'd be agreeing with you whole heartedly.


"Burgees" put me in that mind too although I can
understand part of the reason for having them. Every time I see
someone trying to look "Yachtie" I want to burn and pillage.


Burgees serve a very practical purpose, as they identify members of
various power squadrons and yacht clubs and convey some particular
privileges as a result. We've been in and out of clubs over the years,
but we're in again and will probably stay with the club we joined about
a year ago. My club dues are about $500 a year, but I easily saved that
last summer by taking advantage of free reciprocal moorage as we cruise
through our regional islands. You need to fly a burgee to get the
recip. My club also owns and leases some "outstation" properties where
members can stay free of charge, but once again members are required to
fly a burgee when doing so. A burgee also expresses a certain amount of
pride in belonging to a specific organization- not unlike an NRA or
Ducks Unlimited bumper sticker. When a person belongs to a very large
club or squadron, and particularly when a person is a new member, the
burgee helps to identify other members of the same organization and
that can be a good "ice breaker" in a strange port.



You take yourself, "boating," and the "trappings" of "genteel boating"
entirely too seriously.

Harry, he boats! He doesn't just brag about his nonexistent stuff and call
names.
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I have designed my own version of the Jolly Roger. Mine is one of
those alien heads superimposed on a stylized atom in place of the
crossed bones. I see people stare and can see em mouth "WTF". I also
go down the canal with my fenders down just because it drives people
crazy.

At least you boat!
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"JohnH" wrote in message
...

Harry, your name-calling is better than ever! I'm sure Don will agree that
you're just the neatest guy on usenet!
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John...you're really worring me.
You're getting worse than Kruger & Cali Bill together. Might be time to
get the exorcist in here to expell your demons.

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:11:17 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .

Harry, your name-calling is better than ever! I'm sure Don will agree that
you're just the neatest guy on usenet!
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John...you're really worring me.
You're getting worse than Kruger & Cali Bill together. Might be time to
get the exorcist in here to expell your demons.


Surely you're not disagreeing that Harry is the neatest guy on usenet!
Compliments are *bad* now?
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
We went to an authentic Scottish wedding once.

My ears still are ringing.

My problem with bagpipes is that I have perfect pitch - the more
serious form of it - and I don't care how good a piper is, I get a
headache.

Bummer. Are you therefore unable to listen to Bob Dylan and at least
half of the pop music vocalists as well?

Piping writes its own rules, and the bagpipe does not use a traditional
"western" scale.
What may sound to some like a person playing out of tune may easily be
darn good piping.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:11:16 GMT, "scbafreak via BoatKB.com"
u25927@uwe wrote:

If a person were to design thier own "pirate" flag and fly it as
part of a group of friends that all consider themselves to be sort of an
informal club, would you see that as being in poor taste or for non serious
boaters?

They already have them

They are called Yacht Club Burgees.

You have to remember, Chuck is from the Pacific Northwest where
everything is gray and the highlight of the day is nightfall so they
don't have to watch the rain anymore.

Mushrooms have more sense than people living in the "Great" Pacific
Northwest.

Also remember that people with a point to make normally discuss issues.
Those who feel they can't compete in that arena typically gravitate
immediately to personal remarks rather than address the subject at
hand. Other than a long list of unwarranted insults, I fail to see
anything of substance that Shortwave has added to this discussion.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


And much like Chuck little diatribe about "serious" boaters, I don't
need a lecture from you about anything.

My opinion was that most serious boaters would avoid flying the skull
and crossbones.

In practice, most do avoid it.

My opinion was not intended as a personal attack on your particular
boating habits.
The same can't be said, however, for your repeated personal remarks in
response.

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:08:59 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:51:31 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:30:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:11:16 GMT, "scbafreak via BoatKB.com"
u25927@uwe wrote:

If a person were to design thier own "pirate" flag and fly it as
part of a group of friends that all consider themselves to be sort of an
informal club, would you see that as being in poor taste or for non serious
boaters?

They already have them

They are called Yacht Club Burgees.

You have to remember, Chuck is from the Pacific Northwest where
everything is gray and the highlight of the day is nightfall so they
don't have to watch the rain anymore.

Mushrooms have more sense than people living in the "Great" Pacific
Northwest.

Tom, you're starting to sound very much like Harry here. It's not becoming
and very unlike you. Chuck didn't attack you (or Harry for that matter).

And much like Chuck little diatribe about "serious" boaters, I don't
need a lecture from you about anything.

"Need" was not an issue.
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I'd pick the boat with the topless girls.

On Jan 15, 11:36 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:


You're assigned to a USCG safety patrol and responsible for boarding
recreational boats to inspect for compliance with safety regulations.
About the only way that your supervisor will be able to tell, for sure,
that you didn't spend the afternoon in a dockside watering hole will be
if you return with some citations and warnings written for various
infractions.

You put the glasses on three boats.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


They still are the most annoying musical instrument on the planet.

Well, maybe not THE most annoying.

I'd still rank them with the nose flute.

Kazoo?

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Thats what I was thinking. Never really heard the term "nose flute"
before.

Then again, I don't get out much....


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 16 Jan 2007 06:30:48 -0800, "Tim" wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


They still are the most annoying musical instrument on the planet.

Well, maybe not THE most annoying.

I'd still rank them with the nose flute.

Kazoo?

Same thing. :)

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Speaking of flags.....
A couple of years ago, I picked up a U.S. Union Jack at a local flea
market for the tidy sum of $.50!! Its 30 in. wide and 45 in. long,
complete with a brass swivel snap. My question is: does anyone have
an idea of what size ship it may have came from? It a USN nomenclature
number also. It hangs in my family room with some other nautical stuff
and and gets more comments than anything else.

Thanx, Norm

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N.L. Eckert wrote:
Speaking of flags.....
A couple of years ago, I picked up a U.S. Union Jack at a local flea
market for the tidy sum of $.50!! Its 30 in. wide and 45 in. long,
complete with a brass swivel snap. My question is: does anyone have
an idea of what size ship it may have came from? It a USN nomenclature
number also. It hangs in my family room with some other nautical stuff
and and gets more comments than anything else.

Thanx, Norm


Follow this link:

http://www.navsource.org/archives/07/0712.htm

About six photos from the top of the page you will see a crewman
hoisting The Navy Jack, and it appears to be maybe the next size up
from yours. I'd guess closer to 40 X 60. This photo was taken aboard a
445-foot, 2750 ton Oliver Perry class frigate. Assuming the Navy Jack
and the Union Jack are the same size and scaled to the ship
accordingly, my guesstimation is that your jack would be appropriate
for use aboard ships closer to 300 feet in length. (Probably more than
almost anybody would need for the family fishing boat). :-)

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On 16 Jan 2007 07:42:11 -0800, "Tim" wrote:

Thats what I was thinking. Never really heard the term "nose flute"
before.

Then again, I don't get out much....

Since you mentioned nose flute, I'll note that when flipping channels
last night "Myth Busters" was doing a pirate-related show.
I didn't see the entire show, but a segment was on pirate eye patches.
The gist of it was that the patches were used to retain night vision
in one eye. So if a pirate went below decks in daylight and lifted
the patch he could see what he was looking for. Not sure how it
proved useful as night fell, as that is a slow process, and I only
caught a bit of the show.
I did see the part where actual "scientific" testing was done, and
since the "rods" the eye uses to see in the dark take 20 minutes to
re-adjust from bright conditions, the patch made a tremendous
difference.
This might be an opportunity for Chuck (or anybody else interested in
boating) to post a relevant article on "Boats and Night Vision."
If the article has some info on nose flutes, all the better, since
we're an eclectic bunch here.

--Vic

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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:39:46 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On 16 Jan 2007 07:42:11 -0800, "Tim" wrote:

Thats what I was thinking. Never really heard the term "nose flute"
before.

Then again, I don't get out much....

Since you mentioned nose flute, I'll note that when flipping channels
last night "Myth Busters" was doing a pirate-related show.
I didn't see the entire show, but a segment was on pirate eye patches.
The gist of it was that the patches were used to retain night vision
in one eye. So if a pirate went below decks in daylight and lifted
the patch he could see what he was looking for. Not sure how it
proved useful as night fell, as that is a slow process, and I only
caught a bit of the show.
I did see the part where actual "scientific" testing was done, and
since the "rods" the eye uses to see in the dark take 20 minutes to
re-adjust from bright conditions, the patch made a tremendous
difference.
This might be an opportunity for Chuck (or anybody else interested in
boating) to post a relevant article on "Boats and Night Vision."
If the article has some info on nose flutes, all the better, since
we're an eclectic bunch here.

--Vic

We did the same thing with night vision goggles in Vietnam. I had some
folks buy the leather and make the patches. It allowed the guards on the
bunker lines to keep both eyes open while looking through the scope. It was
a big help.
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Arrrrr - make Chuck walk the plank...
You asked for it-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcT6M...elated&search=


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRggggggggggggghhhhhhhh hhhh

The video has been removed at the request of the original poster

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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:43:58 -0500, JohnH wrote:



We did the same thing with night vision goggles in Vietnam. I had some
folks buy the leather and make the patches. It allowed the guards on the
bunker lines to keep both eyes open while looking through the scope. It was
a big help.

I don't get it, John. You mean the patch would be removed from one
eye and that eye put to the scope? I've never used night vision
goggles, and am having trouble picturing what you've described.

--Vic

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:43:58 -0500, JohnH wrote:


We did the same thing with night vision goggles in Vietnam. I had some
folks buy the leather and make the patches. It allowed the guards on the
bunker lines to keep both eyes open while looking through the scope. It was
a big help.

I don't get it, John. You mean the patch would be removed from one
eye and that eye put to the scope? I've never used night vision
goggles, and am having trouble picturing what you've described.

--Vic
I read this to mean the nightscope was a monocular, so they put an eye
patch over the eye that was not used to look thru the nightscopoe.

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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:34:31 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:43:58 -0500, JohnH wrote:


We did the same thing with night vision goggles in Vietnam. I had some
folks buy the leather and make the patches. It allowed the guards on the
bunker lines to keep both eyes open while looking through the scope. It was
a big help.

I don't get it, John. You mean the patch would be removed from one
eye and that eye put to the scope? I've never used night vision
goggles, and am having trouble picturing what you've described.

--Vic
I read this to mean the nightscope was a monocular, so they put an eye
patch over the eye that was not used to look thru the nightscopoe.

If that's true, I get it. "Goggles" threw me off.

--Vic

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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:26:56 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:43:58 -0500, JohnH wrote:



We did the same thing with night vision goggles in Vietnam. I had some
folks buy the leather and make the patches. It allowed the guards on the
bunker lines to keep both eyes open while looking through the scope. It was
a big help.

I don't get it, John. You mean the patch would be removed from one
eye and that eye put to the scope? I've never used night vision
goggles, and am having trouble picturing what you've described.

--Vic

The scope had one eyepiece. The troops would stop looking through it
because they'd keep the other eye shut while looking. Soon both eyes would
tire. By using the patch over one eye, they could use the scope keeping
both eyes open, which was much less a strain on the eyes. Try just closing
one eye for a couple minutes. You'll feel the strain. Now try just covering
the eye with your hand.
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:49:46 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:34:31 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:43:58 -0500, JohnH wrote:


We did the same thing with night vision goggles in Vietnam. I had some
folks buy the leather and make the patches. It allowed the guards on the
bunker lines to keep both eyes open while looking through the scope. It was
a big help.

I don't get it, John. You mean the patch would be removed from one
eye and that eye put to the scope? I've never used night vision
goggles, and am having trouble picturing what you've described.

--Vic
I read this to mean the nightscope was a monocular, so they put an eye
patch over the eye that was not used to look thru the nightscopoe.

If that's true, I get it. "Goggles" threw me off.

--Vic

Goggles was a poor choice of word. Now they're binocular, then they were
monocular.
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:12:56 -0500, JohnH wrote:


The scope had one eyepiece. The troops would stop looking through it
because they'd keep the other eye shut while looking. Soon both eyes would
tire. By using the patch over one eye, they could use the scope keeping
both eyes open, which was much less a strain on the eyes. Try just closing
one eye for a couple minutes. You'll feel the strain. Now try just covering
the eye with your hand.

Got it.

--Vic

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Even with open sights, pistol or rifle, I shoot with both eyes open and
without an eyepatch. Kind of tricky for a little bit, but even with
both eyes open, your mind concentrates on the "target" eye, you're
eyes are more relaxed, and your field of vision is improved.



Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:12:56 -0500, JohnH wrote:


The scope had one eyepiece. The troops would stop looking through it
because they'd keep the other eye shut while looking. Soon both eyes would
tire. By using the patch over one eye, they could use the scope keeping
both eyes open, which was much less a strain on the eyes. Try just closing
one eye for a couple minutes. You'll feel the strain. Now try just covering
the eye with your hand.

Got it.

--Vic

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On 18 Jan 2007 16:13:33 -0800, "Tim" wrote:

Even with open sights, pistol or rifle, I shoot with both eyes open and
without an eyepatch. Kind of tricky for a little bit, but even with
both eyes open, your mind concentrates on the "target" eye, you're
eyes are more relaxed, and your field of vision is improved.


If you had an eye patch, you could leave both eyes open and not find
anything 'tricky' to deal with.

And you'd look way cool too, especially if you had a Jolly Roger sewn onto
the back of your jacket!
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Harry Krause wrote:


I want a soul music band at my funeral. No steeenking bagpipes.


I can see it now:

Funeral MC: We're here to celebrate the life of Harold Krause......

Voice from crowd: Bull****! We're just here to celebrate!

But seriously, what soul music band would you want? You can leave some
last requests, and enough money, and if they're not touring or
something you could get them to show up and play your gig. For enough
money. With a couple of days notice it would take quite a bit.

My preferred funeral dirge: Procul Harum, Whiter Shade of Pale, from
the Live at Union Chapel performance.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:


I want a soul music band at my funeral. No steeenking bagpipes.


I can see it now:

Funeral MC: We're here to celebrate the life of Harold Krause......

Voice from crowd: Bull****! We're just here to celebrate!

But seriously, what soul music band would you want? You can leave some
last requests, and enough money, and if they're not touring or
something you could get them to show up and play your gig. For enough
money. With a couple of days notice it would take quite a bit.

My preferred funeral dirge: Procul Harum, Whiter Shade of Pale, from
the Live at Union Chapel performance.


Would you warn us not to drinking coffee when you state something like this?

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JohnH wrote:
On 18 Jan 2007 16:13:33 -0800, "Tim" wrote:

Even with open sights, pistol or rifle, I shoot with both eyes open and
without an eyepatch. Kind of tricky for a little bit, but even with
both eyes open, your mind concentrates on the "target" eye, you're
eyes are more relaxed, and your field of vision is improved.


If you had an eye patch, you could leave both eyes open and not find
anything 'tricky' to deal with.

And you'd look way cool too, especially if you had a Jolly Roger sewn onto
the back of your jacket!
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I'm not sure what you are saying. Who doesn't train people to sight
and fire guns with both eyes open? That's how I learned and others I
know were trained the same way.

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On 19 Jan 2007 16:58:12 -0800, "Dan" wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 18 Jan 2007 16:13:33 -0800, "Tim" wrote:

Even with open sights, pistol or rifle, I shoot with both eyes open and
without an eyepatch. Kind of tricky for a little bit, but even with
both eyes open, your mind concentrates on the "target" eye, you're
eyes are more relaxed, and your field of vision is improved.


If you had an eye patch, you could leave both eyes open and not find
anything 'tricky' to deal with.

And you'd look way cool too, especially if you had a Jolly Roger sewn onto
the back of your jacket!
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I'm not sure what you are saying. Who doesn't train people to sight
and fire guns with both eyes open? That's how I learned and others I
know were trained the same way.

I don't know. Who?

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Gould wrote:
About six photos from the top of the page you will see a crewman
hoisting The Navy Jack, and it appears to be maybe the next size up from
yours. I'd guess closer to 40 X 60. This photo was taken aboard a
445-foot, 2750 ton Oliver Perry class frigate. Assuming the Navy Jack
and the Union Jack are the same size and scaled to the ship accordingly,
my guesstimation is that your jack would be appropriate for use aboard
ships closer to 300 feet in length. (Probably more than almost anybody
would need for the family fishing boat). :-)

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Thanks for the info. I've never seen a Union Jack flying on a regular
CG or Navy vessel because the only ones I"ve seen have been underway.
I watched as a Sea Scout retrieved their Union Jack as they were getting
underway, but this was a 90 ft. vessel and had about a 10 " X 20"
Jack, so this one being about 4 times that size made me wonder...