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"-rick-" wrote in message

They do grant freedom
however and can deny it for non-compliance.

They don't grant MY freedom, only limit it.
I was born with it.

-W

"RCE" wrote in message
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It's interesting that Gerald Ford, who was perceived as a bit of a
simpleton with questionable capabilities when POTUS, is now being
reevaluated much more positively in terms of his foresight, vision,
leadership and plain old guts. As more details of his presidency become
public, the more respect I have for him.

Time will tell with Bush.

Eisboch

He was a good friend to Canada.
I was reading in a local paper how he fought against France and a few other
countries to get us included in the old G7 group... now G8.
http://www.herald.ns.ca/Search/549743.html

Good to be prepared, anyway.
http://www.endtimesreport.com/index.html
JR

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:33:04 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 12/31/2006 4:31 PM, NOYB wrote:

"D&LBusch" wrote in message
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Isn't Capital Punishment the worst kind of premeditated murder?

It's like a teaching a kid not to hit others...by hitting the kid. It's
hypocritical.

Yikes. We agree on something.

It's the Third Sign of the Apocalypse!!!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!

Oh wait - that's not going to do any good.

Never mind.

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Harry Krause wrote:

There's an easier answer. The voters who actually thought about the
election and its implications were tired of the Republican b.s., and
wanted some new b.s.

Now THAT makes perfect sense!

I was personally and professionally delighted by the outcomes of some of
the races, though. Senator Macaca's loss not only got rid of a
senatorial idiot, it eliminated him from being the "conservative" GOP
contender for POTUS in 2008. In my own state, our black lieutenant
governor bet on what he perceived as the stupidity of black voters and
tried to convince them he really wasn't *that* sort of Republican and in
fact wasn't really a Republican at all. He was so successful that about
85% of the state's black voters cast their ballots for the other guy.

ROTFL!

Clams Canino wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

They do grant freedom
however and can deny it for non-compliance.

They don't grant MY freedom, only limit it.
I was born with it.

By the random luck of where you were born.
-rick-

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:06:28 -0800, -rick- wrote:

Clams Canino wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

They do grant freedom
however and can deny it for non-compliance.

They don't grant MY freedom, only limit it.
I was born with it.

By the random luck of where you were born.
-rick-

So where were you unlucky enough to be born?

Jack Goff wrote:
So where were you unlucky enough to be born?

Stick out your tongue,and hold the very tip of it between your fingers,
and say (or attempt to say)

" I was born on a Pirate Ship"

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:37:13 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

You think the future will find even dumber and less capable than he is
seen at present?

I guess anything is possible.

I don't know anyone, btw, who thought Gerry Ford a simpleton.

He did, on the rare occasion, place his foot in mouth, but I think he is
remembered more as a klutz. IIRC, he was a bit of a danger with a golf
club, and publicly tripped, or fell, on more than one occasion. But,
considering he was, by far, the best athlete to make it to the presidency,
klutz just doesn't seem appropriate.

On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 09:05:15 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 1/1/2007 6:48 AM, Tom Francis wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:10:27 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 12/30/2006 1:23 PM, JR North wrote:
Watched the footage this morning. Kudos to the Iraqis for getting the job
done quick. I wish our system was so efficient.
In recent years "we" have discovered that at least some of those we have
condemned to die were innocent of the crimes for which they were sentenced
to capital punishment. We have no doubt executed some in this country who
were innocent, but once the convicted are dead no one expends energy
exonerating them.
I'm against capital punishment...but there's little doubt about Saddam's
culpability for the crimes that he was accused of.

Being the peace, love and fraternity type that I am, I think that it
is the paramount responsibility of society to expect that the
punishment fit the crime. The question is what is the appropriate
punishment?

There are problems with this simplistic approach. How do you make the
punishment fit a case where a criminal breaks into a home, beats and
rapes an 80 year old woman, steals all her valuables then leaves her
to die only she doesn't but stays alive, beaten with broken bones on a
cold floor in a cold apartment for 12 hours until she is found? Do
you throw the criminal in jail? How long? Access to fitness
equipment, food, education, entertainment?

It seems to me that as a society, we need to reevaluate the criteria
for punishment and come to some kind of consensus that doesn't require
three meals a day, proper exercise and a safe, secure roof over their
heads, properly inflated basketballs and clean sheets three times per
week.

The punishment for the crime you described should be life in prison
without parole. Once in prison, felons who behave properly should be
allowed to live reasonable lives, with access to food, exercise, and
safety, and access to counseling, education, and work. Felons who do not
behave properly usually find themselves in maximum security lockups,
where there are no privileges and they remain in a tiny cell 23 hours a
day.

Another argument I would proffer is that the sentences for non-violent
criminals are far too harsh.

Among so-called modern western nations, our criminal justice system is
pretty much backwards, and it manifests itself in the production of
prisoners who become worse felons while locked up.

We should remember that felons, terrorists, and rogue nations are all
alike. If we simply be nice to them, they'll be nice in return.
--
John

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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I don't know anyone, btw, who thought Gerry Ford a simpleton.

You never saw Chevy Chase's impersonations of him on SNL?