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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..




"It was all very careless and confused. They were careless people—they
smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money
or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together,
and let other people clean up the mess they had made. . . ."*



Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld?

Moe, Larry, and Shemp?

Huey, Dewey, and Louie?


Hey, BTW .... (risking arrest or worse from certain NetCops) ....
I've been listening to John Edwards a bit recently. He's matured quite a
bit.
Actually makes some sense.

Eisboch

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RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..




"It was all very careless and confused. They were careless people-they
smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money
or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together,
and let other people clean up the mess they had made. . . ."*



Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld?

Moe, Larry, and Shemp?

Huey, Dewey, and Louie?


Hey, BTW .... (risking arrest or worse from certain NetCops) ....
I've been listening to John Edwards a bit recently. He's matured quite a
bit.
Actually makes some sense.

Eisboch

See if you can find similar maturity. If you inist on making a
political statement in rec.boats, do so without trying to shift the
guilt to anybody who might, (omigod!), express an opinion that such
posts are inappropriate in a boating forum. Just stand up like a man
and be political. No need to add personal remarks as seasoning. If you
can't take the heat that might result from somebody freely expressing
an opinion about your post, don't make it.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..




"It was all very careless and confused. They were careless people-they
smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their
money
or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together,
and let other people clean up the mess they had made. . . ."*



Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld?

Moe, Larry, and Shemp?

Huey, Dewey, and Louie?


Hey, BTW .... (risking arrest or worse from certain NetCops) ....
I've been listening to John Edwards a bit recently. He's matured quite a
bit.
Actually makes some sense.

Eisboch

See if you can find similar maturity. If you inist on making a
political statement in rec.boats, do so without trying to shift the
guilt to anybody who might, (omigod!), express an opinion that such
posts are inappropriate in a boating forum. Just stand up like a man
and be political. No need to add personal remarks as seasoning. If you
can't take the heat that might result from somebody freely expressing
an opinion about your post, don't make it.


Good grief. I knew it.

Gould, this may come as a shock to your oversized ego, but I really don't
give a rat's ass what you think, your NG directives, your opinions or your
boring, self-serving essays that you call OT boating posts. I am likely a
lot more mature than you, given the fact that I came to realize I am a mere
mortal many years ago and not all that important in the grand scheme of
things.

Eisboch

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RCE wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..




"It was all very careless and confused. They were careless people-they
smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their
money
or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together,
and let other people clean up the mess they had made. . . ."*



Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld?

Moe, Larry, and Shemp?

Huey, Dewey, and Louie?


Hey, BTW .... (risking arrest or worse from certain NetCops) ....
I've been listening to John Edwards a bit recently. He's matured quite a
bit.
Actually makes some sense.

Eisboch

See if you can find similar maturity. If you inist on making a
political statement in rec.boats, do so without trying to shift the
guilt to anybody who might, (omigod!), express an opinion that such
posts are inappropriate in a boating forum. Just stand up like a man
and be political. No need to add personal remarks as seasoning. If you
can't take the heat that might result from somebody freely expressing
an opinion about your post, don't make it.


Good grief. I knew it.

Gould, this may come as a shock to your oversized ego, but I really don't
give a rat's ass what you think,

Well then that should eliminate any need to express a fear that
someobdy might dare to comment about whether a political post is
appropriate, shouldn't it?

Actions speak a lot louder than words.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...


Well then that should eliminate any need to express a fear that
someobdy might dare to comment about whether a political post is
appropriate, shouldn't it?



Since you posed that as a question, I'll answer it this way;

You take yourself way too seriously.

Eisboch

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RCE wrote:


Since you posed that as a question, I'll answer it this way;

You take yourself way too seriously.

Eisboch

Richard,
Any post that starts comparing
Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld?

Moe, Larry, and Shemp?

Huey, Dewey, and Louie?

really isn't interested in any kind of discussion, they are looking for
a way to start a flame fest. Forget about if rec.boats is really the
correct forum for a political discussion and if I would enjoy a nice
political discussion every now and then. I might think the current
administration is a bunch of low life scum, but I know I could never
have a political discussion in rec.boats. You and I have been reading
rec.boats long enough to realize rec.boats has NEVER had an intelligent
political discussion. It very quickly becomes a venue to call others
"assholes", scumbags, etc. The person who started this thread has stated
numerous times, he has no desire to discuss boating in rec.boats, he
finds the topics boring and repetitive. He has also stated he doesn't
believe the right wing scum who pollute this NG are worth anything more
than a one line insult.

History has shown us that inflammatory political discussion in
rec.boats, and the name calling will quickly spread into EVERY on topic
thread in rec.boats.

Since this is a non moderated NG, if the majority really want rec.boats
to become a rec.political.flamefest, that is what it will become. I may
not agree with Chuck's style when he highlights OT political posts, but
I do agree that political posts and discussion does eliminate any hope
of this being a friendly group to have any kind of discussion.

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:12:06 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..




"It was all very careless and confused. They were careless people-they
smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their
money
or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together,
and let other people clean up the mess they had made. . . ."*



Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld?

Moe, Larry, and Shemp?

Huey, Dewey, and Louie?


Hey, BTW .... (risking arrest or worse from certain NetCops) ....
I've been listening to John Edwards a bit recently. He's matured quite a
bit.
Actually makes some sense.

Eisboch

See if you can find similar maturity. If you inist on making a
political statement in rec.boats, do so without trying to shift the
guilt to anybody who might, (omigod!), express an opinion that such
posts are inappropriate in a boating forum. Just stand up like a man
and be political. No need to add personal remarks as seasoning. If you
can't take the heat that might result from somebody freely expressing
an opinion about your post, don't make it.


Good grief. I knew it.

Gould, this may come as a shock to your oversized ego, but I really don't
give a rat's ass what you think, your NG directives, your opinions or your
boring, self-serving essays that you call OT boating posts. I am likely a
lot more mature than you, given the fact that I came to realize I am a mere
mortal many years ago and not all that important in the grand scheme of
things.

Eisboch


The smart-assed net cop comment was uncalled for.

If you like Edwards, vote for him.
--
John

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:27:36 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


I wouldn't worry about the netcops; they're a**holes everyone of them.

That's much better, Harry!
--
John

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...


The smart-assed net cop comment was uncalled for.

If you like Edwards, vote for him.
--
John


Go polish your badge.

Eisboch

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:27:36 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

I wouldn't worry about the netcops; they're a**holes everyone of them.

That seems a bit harsh in my humble opinion.

Let's all make a New Years resolution to respect each other's opinions
just a tad more, even if we don't always agree with them. Presumably
everyone here has at least some small interest in boats or boating,
and we would probably enjoy shooting the bull over a tall cold with
just about everyone if by chance we ever met.

Lead by example, an adult example hopefully.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hey, BTW .... (risking arrest or worse from certain NetCops) ....
I've been listening to John Edwards a bit recently. He's matured
quite a
bit.
Actually makes some sense.

Eisboch

See if you can find similar maturity. If you insist on making a
political statement in rec.boats, do so without trying to shift the
guilt to anybody who might, (omigod!), express an opinion that such
posts are inappropriate in a boating forum. Just stand up like a man
and be political. No need to add personal remarks as seasoning. If you
can't take the heat that might result from somebody freely expressing
an opinion about your post, don't make it.


Good grief. I knew it.

Gould, this may come as a shock to your oversized ego, but I really don't
give a rat's ass what you think,

Well then that should eliminate any need to express a fear that
someobdy might dare to comment about whether a political post is
appropriate, shouldn't it?

Actions speak a lot louder than words.

Mr. Gould
Indeed they do. Before you go completely incoherent, tell us why anyone
should "give a rat's ass" what you think.

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Jim wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hey, BTW .... (risking arrest or worse from certain NetCops) ....
I've been listening to John Edwards a bit recently. He's matured
quite a
bit.
Actually makes some sense.

Eisboch
See if you can find similar maturity. If you insist on making a
political statement in rec.boats, do so without trying to shift the
guilt to anybody who might, (omigod!), express an opinion that such
posts are inappropriate in a boating forum. Just stand up like a man
and be political. No need to add personal remarks as seasoning. If you
can't take the heat that might result from somebody freely expressing
an opinion about your post, don't make it.

Good grief. I knew it.

Gould, this may come as a shock to your oversized ego, but I really don't
give a rat's ass what you think,
Well then that should eliminate any need to express a fear that
someobdy might dare to comment about whether a political post is
appropriate, shouldn't it?

Actions speak a lot louder than words.

Mr. Gould
Indeed they do. Before you go completely incoherent, tell us why anyone
should "give a rat's ass" what you think.




No one should give a rat's ass what he thinks, but what do you think
about someone whose only objective is to call people who respond to an
OT polical troll, assholes?

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Harry Krause wrote:



I think we ought to consult with the rat before we give up his ass.
Where's Smithers when he's needed?

Jim,
The question really is "Is this what you want rec.boats to become?"

This is what Harry wants rec.boats to become, and is the reason for his
trolls.

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"RCE" wrote in message

I've been listening to John Edwards a bit recently. He's matured quite a
bit.

If he positions himself correctly, he might just swim up the middle past
Hillary and Obama - both of whom suffer from some percieved "electability
issues". It will be interesting to watch.

GOP side still looks "open" with McCain and Rudy perhaps out front.

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Jim wrote:


Actions speak a lot louder than words.

Mr. Gould
Indeed they do. Before you go completely incoherent, tell us why anyone
should "give a rat's ass" what you think.

If I express an opinion, everybody is free to give whatever portion of
a rat, (or not), that they deem appropriate.

Part of the risk of expressing an opinion is drawing ridicule from
persons who disagree with the opinion. Comes with the territory.

Among anybody's brighter adversaries are those who evaluate an opinion
based on its individual merits and will take specific issue with the
opinion itself. Well down from the varsity level adversaries are the
middle-school mentalities which avoid discussing the substance of the
opinion expressed and move to personal attacks instead. A short period
of observation makes it rather obvious which particular camp any
person's particular detractors
happen to fall into.

Please feel free to withold your rat's ass in response to any of my
opinions. :-)

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:41:39 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .


The smart-assed net cop comment was uncalled for.

If you like Edwards, vote for him.
--
John


Go polish your badge.

Eisboch


The wife keeps it in good shape!
--
John

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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

"RCE" wrote in message

I've been listening to John Edwards a bit recently. He's matured quite a
bit.

If he positions himself correctly, he might just swim up the middle past
Hillary and Obama - both of whom suffer from some percieved "electability
issues". It will be interesting to watch.

GOP side still looks "open" with McCain and Rudy perhaps out front.




McCain may get hurt if Bush goes for more troops in Iraq as expected. If it
doesn't change anything ... and I personally don't think it will ... McCain
will lose credibility having been advocating a further buildup.

Eisboch

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

Jim wrote:


Actions speak a lot louder than words.

Mr. Gould
Indeed they do. Before you go completely incoherent, tell us why anyone
should "give a rat's ass" what you think.

If I express an opinion, everybody is free to give whatever portion of
a rat, (or not), that they deem appropriate.

Part of the risk of expressing an opinion is drawing ridicule from
persons who disagree with the opinion. Comes with the territory.

Among anybody's brighter adversaries are those who evaluate an opinion
based on its individual merits and will take specific issue with the
opinion itself. Well down from the varsity level adversaries are the
middle-school mentalities which avoid discussing the substance of the
opinion expressed and move to personal attacks instead. A short period
of observation makes it rather obvious which particular camp any
person's particular detractors
happen to fall into.

Please feel free to withold your rat's ass in response to any of my
opinions. :-)

There's that smarmy attitude you are famous for. Put your opinions where the
sun doesn't shine. They will be in good company there.

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RCE wrote:
"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

"RCE" wrote in message

I've been listening to John Edwards a bit recently. He's matured quite a
bit.

If he positions himself correctly, he might just swim up the middle past
Hillary and Obama - both of whom suffer from some percieved "electability
issues". It will be interesting to watch.

GOP side still looks "open" with McCain and Rudy perhaps out front.




McCain may get hurt if Bush goes for more troops in Iraq as expected. If it
doesn't change anything ... and I personally don't think it will ... McCain
will lose credibility having been advocating a further buildup.

Eisboch

A good USMC friend of the family visited us for 2 days after Christmas.
He returned from a tour in Iraq just last month.

His opinion on what is going on over there - Disorganization amongst
and poor leadership of the troops, no lasting results, Iraqis love you
one day and hate you the next.........time to get out as we will never
change things.

I have been on the fence regarding this war lately and he pushed me
over..........I also now agree it is time to leave and let them sort it
out themselves.

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Jim wrote:


There's that smarmy attitude you are famous for. Put your opinions where the
sun doesn't shine. They will be in good company there.

You mistake seriously and completely not giving a flying fig about your
personal regard for me one way or the other as a "smarmy" attitude.
Understandable.

A short period of observation is all it takes to separate the people
with the ability to challenge an opinion on an intellectual level from
those who are left with no recourse except personal attack. If I
bothered to observe you, I wonder what I'd discover?