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Chuck Gould wrote:
Tim wrote: Jim wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ps.com... Jim, you have to be kidding? changing a title to a thread, doesn't get rid of the origional post of the thread. cross threading is more manipulative than anything else. No Tim. I am not kidding. Psst, Tim: Jim's upset because he is a staunch ultra conservative. He believes that when people post "I think my steer is a liberal because he has no balls" (from earlier in this thread) or "Illegal aliens and their supporters dare attack the real Americans" those threads should be left on the rec.boats subject board in the interest of "freedom of choice" about what to read. Although Jim and I *agree* that everybody should be free to post and read what they want- we disagree that in a newsgroup universe composed of dedicated sites for different interests each and every newsgroup must then function as a dumping ground for every political message, all the hateful propaganda, etc, that happens along. I believe that if you want to read the latest messages from Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, the ACLU, Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson, or the KKK there are plenty of sites where that material is freely available and where posts of the same sort of material would be appropriate. It also makes sense that people seeking out a boating newsgroup are doing so with a reasonable expectation of finding boating related material, not the rare boating related item buried among piles of chatroom nonsense, political cut 'n pastes, and years-long peeing contests between the same 2-3 individuals. I overestimated either the readership of the NG or the cleverness of turning these OT, cross-posted, disruptive and divisive propagada items into boating related subjects having to do with 1) dealing with sewage, 2) taking care not to track things back to the boat on your shoes. (Some of the participants in this group apparently engage or support these crossposters on other forums, which is how rec.boats gets added to the multiple cross post list for disseminating propaganda). Obviously at least a few people missed it. So "Whoosh", big time, but perhaps the fault was my own. Anyway, I do plan to continue harrassing the crossposters. If that upsets a few people who would prefer to see the cross-posted stuff on rec.boats, so be it. Plenty of people consider me a major a-hole as it is, so a few more voices in the "Gould's an a-hole" choir are meaningless. And it's not like I don't have some empathy. For a group of people who aren't really very interested in boating the major attraction of the NG has long been "it's a good place to go pick a fight about politics, or engage in a personal peeing contest". It's easy to see how discouraging the OT political stuff "ruins" the group as far as they are concerned. Those who believe that changing a cross-posted political or hate message to a boating related topic, (even if it's a silly one), does more "damage" to the NG than the cross-posting itself are entitled to their opinions. I'm entitled to mine. Nobody is expected to agree all the time, and I have never been one to form an opinion based upon how many people happen to agree with me. Your point was very obvious to anyone of average intelligence. |
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