What size Trim Tabs for 23' runabout?
 

I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?

Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?

Thanks
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:09:36 -0800, Josh Assing
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I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?

I would suggest calling the customer service folks at Bennett Trim
Tabs and/or go to their web site:

http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/

I called them when we were putting new tabs on my old boat and they
were very helpful and knowledgable.

Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?

No, never heard of them.

What size Trim Tabs for 23' runabout?
 

Harry Krause wrote:
On 12/27/2006 9:09 AM, Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 21:30:53 -0500, Wayne.B penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:09:36 -0800, Josh Assing
wrote:

I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?
I would suggest calling the customer service folks at Bennett Trim
Tabs and/or go to their web site:

http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/

I called them when we were putting new tabs on my old boat and they
were very helpful and knowledgable.
Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?
No, never heard of them.

Just adding to what Wayne offered....

sizing instructions:
http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/size1.htm

I'm not familiar with "Smart Tabs," but they appear to be a passive
gas charged cylinder reacting to water pressure from a hull as it
increases in speed. IMHO, it appears that the flaw in their entire
system is that at slow speeds the tab is depressed into a full down
position and acts as a speed brake. They market this as a desirable
feature to enhance trolling... I find it to be a ridiculous assertion
and/or feature. Their goal is for a hands-off passive system. I don't
think that will work and it would seem that Bennett's hands-off system
makes a LOT more sense. See:
http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/autotab.htm

Two more things:

(1) When I went to the "Smart Tab" web site my anti-virus alerted me
with an attempt at malicious code injection. Visit at your own risk...

(2) Bennett used to monitor this newsgroup and a tech rep would
quickly be in touch with posters to answer questions and offer useful
and informative advice. I haven't seen him here lately and it occurs
to me that if we have lost invaluable free resources like that, the
net-copping was too little and too late....



I don't think auto-tabs are a good idea. If you are the skipper, you
should always be aware of where your boat is in the space-time
continuum. Different loading patterns, throttle settings, wave and wind
conditions affect how your boat runs, and as skipper you should be alert
enough to not only notice these, but to effectuate your tabs to best
position your boat's angle of attack. Automating the tab process removes
the skipper from such decision-making.

Generally I am not in favor of devices that make boating "too simple."
Driving a boat on open waters is not like driving a car on the highway.
If you are going to drive a boat, you ought to know how to do it, and
you ought to do it every time you are at the helm.

As for the netcops, well, the chief netcop pain in the ass just drove
off Tom, who has been one of my favorite posters here. So I decided to
filter out the netcop, whose postings have become boring, repetitive and
commercial.


Harry,

I don't think you read what Wayne said, he said:

I haven't seen him here lately and it occurs
to me that if we have lost invaluable free resources like that, the
net-copping was too little and too late....

Since you have said numerous times you really don't come to rec.boats to
discuss boats, but just to meet up with some "old friends". Why don't
you just use email, it would make your life much easier, and you
wouldn't have to put up with all the 'a**holes', to use your favorite word.

What size Trim Tabs for 23' runabout?
 

Harry Krause wrote:
On 12/27/2006 9:50 AM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Since you have said numerous times you really don't come to rec.boats
to discuss boats, but just to meet up with some "old friends". Why
don't you just use email, it would make your life much easier, and you
wouldn't have to put up with all the 'a**holes', to use your favorite
word.


Ahh, momentarily forgot about the non-boat-owning a**hole known as
Smithers. Into the dustbin he goes.


Harry,
That is an excellent idea, you really should just ignore all those
people who you don't want to respond to, it will be a vast improvement
in the NG

What size Trim Tabs for 23' runabout?
 

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 09:30:08 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 12/27/2006 9:09 AM, Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 21:30:53 -0500, Wayne.B penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:09:36 -0800, Josh Assing
wrote:

I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?
I would suggest calling the customer service folks at Bennett Trim
Tabs and/or go to their web site:

http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/

I called them when we were putting new tabs on my old boat and they
were very helpful and knowledgable.
Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?
No, never heard of them.

Just adding to what Wayne offered....

sizing instructions:
http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/size1.htm

I'm not familiar with "Smart Tabs," but they appear to be a passive
gas charged cylinder reacting to water pressure from a hull as it
increases in speed. IMHO, it appears that the flaw in their entire
system is that at slow speeds the tab is depressed into a full down
position and acts as a speed brake. They market this as a desirable
feature to enhance trolling... I find it to be a ridiculous assertion
and/or feature. Their goal is for a hands-off passive system. I don't
think that will work and it would seem that Bennett's hands-off system
makes a LOT more sense. See:
http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/autotab.htm

Two more things:

(1) When I went to the "Smart Tab" web site my anti-virus alerted me
with an attempt at malicious code injection. Visit at your own risk...

(2) Bennett used to monitor this newsgroup and a tech rep would
quickly be in touch with posters to answer questions and offer useful
and informative advice. I haven't seen him here lately and it occurs
to me that if we have lost invaluable free resources like that, the
net-copping was too little and too late....



I don't think auto-tabs are a good idea. If you are the skipper, you
should always be aware of where your boat is in the space-time
continuum. Different loading patterns, throttle settings, wave and wind
conditions affect how your boat runs, and as skipper you should be alert
enough to not only notice these, but to effectuate your tabs to best
position your boat's angle of attack. Automating the tab process removes
the skipper from such decision-making.

Generally I am not in favor of devices that make boating "too simple."
Driving a boat on open waters is not like driving a car on the highway.
If you are going to drive a boat, you ought to know how to do it, and
you ought to do it every time you are at the helm.

As for the netcops, well, the chief netcop pain in the ass just drove
off Tom, who has been one of my favorite posters here. So I decided to
filter out the netcop, whose postings have become boring, repetitive and
commercial.

You missed the point, Harry. He said, "... the net-copping was too little
and too late...."

If Chuck's jab about the Hasselbad post actually drove Tom off, then Tom's
skin is pretty thin. I don't think Chuck's comment was all that
appropriate, but it wasn't nearly as bad as some of the JimH comments about
the wealth or assets of others. None of those seemed to bother you too
much.

Isn't your continuous use of the word asshole about others an example of
*your* netcopping? Face it, you love netcopping if it's in agreement with
*your* perspective!
--
John

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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 09:54:30 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 12/27/2006 9:50 AM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Since you have said numerous times you really don't come to rec.boats to
discuss boats, but just to meet up with some "old friends". Why don't
you just use email, it would make your life much easier, and you
wouldn't have to put up with all the 'a**holes', to use your favorite word.


Ahh, momentarily forgot about the non-boat-owning a**hole known as
Smithers. Into the dustbin he goes.


Would be great if you put everyone with whom you disagree in your
'dustbin'. It would improve the group tremendously.
--
John

What size Trim Tabs for 23' runabout?
 

Josh Assing wrote:

I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?

Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?

Thanks
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I know no one with Smart Tabs but I have seen their ads. They look like
a simple strut or spring that forces both tabs down with equal pressure.
A conventional trim tab system is individually adjustable, as you
would expect, to properly balance the boat. They also look like they
are going to get in the way on a trailer boat since they are going to
hang down without any water to move them.

FWIW, a friend of mine walked into Bennett's office in Deerfield Beach,
FL with his old pump in hand. It was very old - over 15 years at the
time. He gave up on trying to find replacement parts so he stopped in
for advice.

He walked out with a refurbished pump that looked like it was new. No
Charge!

If nothing else, Bennett is a company that really stands behind their
products so give them a look if you decide to consider conventional trim
tabs.

Dan

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They look like a gimick to me; but you just never know...


On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 20:25:01 -0500, Dan wrote:

Josh Assing wrote:

I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?

Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?

Thanks
-josh


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I know no one with Smart Tabs but I have seen their ads. They look like
a simple strut or spring that forces both tabs down with equal pressure.
A conventional trim tab system is individually adjustable, as you
would expect, to properly balance the boat. They also look like they
are going to get in the way on a trailer boat since they are going to
hang down without any water to move them.

FWIW, a friend of mine walked into Bennett's office in Deerfield Beach,
FL with his old pump in hand. It was very old - over 15 years at the
time. He gave up on trying to find replacement parts so he stopped in
for advice.

He walked out with a refurbished pump that looked like it was new. No
Charge!

If nothing else, Bennett is a company that really stands behind their
products so give them a look if you decide to consider conventional trim
tabs.

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What size Trim Tabs for 23' runabout?
 

SmartTabs are an inexpensive option but they won't help trim the boat side
to side; they're designed to help you get on plane at a slower speed with
minimal bow rise and keep you on plane longer as you slow down.
So, they're good for half the price, but not as effective and not adjustable
while underway.

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What size Trim Tabs for 23' runabout?
 

I have a pair of the tournament tabs on my 19 1/2 bow rider. They look like
they are the same size as the m80's but I'd like the black better. They
work great. I'd go with those m120's for a boat your size unless you have
limited space on the transom. The m80s or tournament tabs only need 8" on
each side. The 120s need 10". Forget the non-powered ones, you need to be
able to move them as needed. In rough water you can put them down a little
even at higher speeds. And I leave them all the way down for wakeboarding.

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Thanks -- space is not really an issue; so I'll check out the sports models; but
tehy seemed more expensive for no extra gain...

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:19:00 GMT, "James" wrote:

I have a pair of the tournament tabs on my 19 1/2 bow rider. They look like
they are the same size as the m80's but I'd like the black better. They
work great. I'd go with those m120's for a boat your size unless you have
limited space on the transom. The m80s or tournament tabs only need 8" on
each side. The 120s need 10". Forget the non-powered ones, you need to be
able to move them as needed. In rough water you can put them down a little
even at higher speeds. And I leave them all the way down for wakeboarding.

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What size trim tabs should I go with?

Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?

Thanks
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Space may appear to be a consideration when your tie downs cross the transom
where the trim tabs will be mounted. SmartTabs suggested I just cross the
straps from the transom tie down on one side to the trailer tie down on the
other.

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
...
Thanks -- space is not really an issue; so I'll check out the sports
models; but
tehy seemed more expensive for no extra gain...

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:19:00 GMT, "James" wrote:

I have a pair of the tournament tabs on my 19 1/2 bow rider. They look
like
they are the same size as the m80's but I'd like the black better. They
work great. I'd go with those m120's for a boat your size unless you have
limited space on the transom. The m80s or tournament tabs only need 8" on
each side. The 120s need 10". Forget the non-powered ones, you need to
be
able to move them as needed. In rough water you can put them down a
little
even at higher speeds. And I leave them all the way down for
wakeboarding.

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What size trim tabs should I go with?

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Thanks
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The rule of thumb is to have at least one inch of trim tab span (per
side) for every foot of boat length. (Examples: 22 foot boat = no less
than 24" x 9", 36 foot boat = no less than 36" x 9"). The 9" chord
(fore to aft measurement) should be suffient unless you are limited in
space and have to go smaller than a 24x9 unit, in which case you would
need to go with 18x12 trim tabs. For trim tab sizing specs go to
http://wildblueboating.com/trim_tab_selector_page.html

Tom Buhlinger
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Hmm. Thank you! I'll have to take another look before ordering the tabs ot be
sure that the tie downs won't be an issue
thanks
-j

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:59:13 -0800, "William Andersen" wrote:

Space may appear to be a consideration when your tie downs cross the transom
where the trim tabs will be mounted. SmartTabs suggested I just cross the
straps from the transom tie down on one side to the trailer tie down on the
other.

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks -- space is not really an issue; so I'll check out the sports
models; but
tehy seemed more expensive for no extra gain...

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:19:00 GMT, "James" wrote:

I have a pair of the tournament tabs on my 19 1/2 bow rider. They look
like
they are the same size as the m80's but I'd like the black better. They
work great. I'd go with those m120's for a boat your size unless you have
limited space on the transom. The m80s or tournament tabs only need 8" on
each side. The 120s need 10". Forget the non-powered ones, you need to
be
able to move them as needed. In rough water you can put them down a
little
even at higher speeds. And I leave them all the way down for
wakeboarding.

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
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Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?

Thanks
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Trim tabs on my boat were directly in line with the tie downs. By crossing
the straps tp the other side, instead of just going straight down, they
clear the tabs.

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
...
Hmm. Thank you! I'll have to take another look before ordering the tabs
ot be
sure that the tie downs won't be an issue
thanks
-j

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:59:13 -0800, "William Andersen"
wrote:

Space may appear to be a consideration when your tie downs cross the
transom
where the trim tabs will be mounted. SmartTabs suggested I just cross the
straps from the transom tie down on one side to the trailer tie down on
the
other.

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks -- space is not really an issue; so I'll check out the sports
models; but
tehy seemed more expensive for no extra gain...

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:19:00 GMT, "James" wrote:

I have a pair of the tournament tabs on my 19 1/2 bow rider. They look
like
they are the same size as the m80's but I'd like the black better. They
work great. I'd go with those m120's for a boat your size unless you
have
limited space on the transom. The m80s or tournament tabs only need 8"
on
each side. The 120s need 10". Forget the non-powered ones, you need to
be
able to move them as needed. In rough water you can put them down a
little
even at higher speeds. And I leave them all the way down for
wakeboarding.

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Thanks
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I'll keep that trick in mind. Thanks
-j

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:02:46 -0800, "William Andersen" wrote:

Trim tabs on my boat were directly in line with the tie downs. By crossing
the straps tp the other side, instead of just going straight down, they
clear the tabs.

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
.. .
Hmm. Thank you! I'll have to take another look before ordering the tabs
ot be
sure that the tie downs won't be an issue
thanks
-j

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:59:13 -0800, "William Andersen"
wrote:

Space may appear to be a consideration when your tie downs cross the
transom
where the trim tabs will be mounted. SmartTabs suggested I just cross the
straps from the transom tie down on one side to the trailer tie down on
the
other.

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
...
Thanks -- space is not really an issue; so I'll check out the sports
models; but
tehy seemed more expensive for no extra gain...

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:19:00 GMT, "James" wrote:

I have a pair of the tournament tabs on my 19 1/2 bow rider. They look
like
they are the same size as the m80's but I'd like the black better. They
work great. I'd go with those m120's for a boat your size unless you
have
limited space on the transom. The m80s or tournament tabs only need 8"
on
each side. The 120s need 10". Forget the non-powered ones, you need to
be
able to move them as needed. In rough water you can put them down a
little
even at higher speeds. And I leave them all the way down for
wakeboarding.

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Everyone seems to lean towards Bennett tabs -- what about "instatrim" ? they are
about 1/2 the cost.

Is the added cost of the "sport" version worth it over just regular tabs?

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-josh
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"Josh Assing" wrote in message
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Everyone seems to lean towards Bennett tabs -- what about "instatrim" ?
they are
about 1/2 the cost.

Is the added cost of the "sport" version worth it over just regular tabs?

Thanks
-josh
(sorry for so many Q's -- 1st time buying trim tabs)


I've never heard of "instatrim", but Bennett has earned customer loyalty
because of their excellent service and response when needed (which is
rare). My first old boat ... an '82 ... had a bad Bennett cylinder on one
of the tabs that I discovered two days before the boat was being picked up
for launching. It was over 10 years old. Bennett sent me a new one free,
overnight, so that I would not miss my launch appointment.

Eisboch

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:27:45 -0800, Josh Assing
wrote:

Everyone seems to lean towards Bennett tabs -- what about "instatrim" ? they are
about 1/2 the cost.

I've never heard of Instatrim but Bennett has been around a long time
and has a well deserved reputation for excellent customer service and
standing behind their product.

What size Trim Tabs for 23' runabout?
 

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:30:01 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 12/29/2006 2:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:27:45 -0800, Josh Assing
wrote:

Everyone seems to lean towards Bennett tabs -- what about "instatrim" ? they are
about 1/2 the cost.

I've never heard of Instatrim but Bennett has been around a long time
and has a well deserved reputation for excellent customer service and
standing behind their product.



There are several reputable makers of trim-tabs, but Bennett's rep for
customer service seems the best.

- - -

The current list of worthless posters, boatless posters, netcops,
right-wing droolers, and general a**holes who reside in my bozo bin
includes gould, alotta fagina, montgomery_scott, wally, herring,
charles, dankrueger, elvis, fritz, robbins. There's room for more. If
you're on this list, I have the distinct pleasure of not seeing your
posts. :}

What an honor! I guess a person is looking for high praise when they post
their killfile. Harry, you are *so* neat!
--
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What size Trim Tabs for 23' runabout?
 

Josh Assing wrote:
Everyone seems to lean towards Bennett tabs -- what about "instatrim" ? they are
about 1/2 the cost.

Is the added cost of the "sport" version worth it over just regular tabs?

Thanks
-josh
(sorry for so many Q's -- 1st time buying trim tabs)

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I had some Boat Leveler's on a 21 ft crownline that I owned for 10
years. Never had any trouble with them.

Capt Jack R..

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Harry Krause wrote:

On 12/29/2006 2:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:27:45 -0800, Josh Assing
wrote:

Everyone seems to lean towards Bennett tabs -- what about "instatrim"
? they are
about 1/2 the cost.


I've never heard of Instatrim but Bennett has been around a long time
and has a well deserved reputation for excellent customer service and
standing behind their product.



There are several reputable makers of trim-tabs, but Bennett's rep for
customer service seems the best.

- - -

The current list of worthless posters, boatless posters, netcops,
right-wing droolers, and general a**holes who reside in my bozo bin
includes gould, alotta fagina, montgomery_scott, wally, herring,
charles, dankrueger, elvis, fritz, robbins. There's room for more. If
you're on this list, I have the distinct pleasure of not seeing your
posts. :}

Notice the moron skips the biggest troller, and resident a-hole, Kevin?

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