On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:50:53 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:

"Woodies" get bad reputations when they are maintained by the same people
who buy Toyotas.

Toyotas require very little maintenance and last almost forever.

Your point?

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:50:53 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:

"Woodies" get bad reputations when they are maintained by the same people
who buy Toyotas.

Toyotas require very little maintenance and last almost forever.

Your point?

Honorable Confuse-us say: "Never buy wooden Toyota." :-)

On 20 Dec 2006 22:22:09 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Honorable Confuse-us say: "Never buy wooden Toyota." :-)

No, no, no.

Confuse-us say:

"Never take a wooden Nikki",

(or something like that).

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:50:53 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:

"Woodies" get bad reputations when they are maintained by the same people
who buy Toyotas.

Toyotas require very little maintenance and last almost forever.

Your point?

Speaking of Toyota:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/...ess/toyota.php

Tim wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:50:53 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:


"Woodies" get bad reputations when they are maintained by the same people
who buy Toyotas.

Toyotas require very little maintenance and last almost forever.

Your point?


Speaking of Toyota:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/...ess/toyota.php


I always thought my next vehicle would be a Toyota (Sienna or
Highlander) but they're screwing us on price here. The spread between a
Toyota price in the US & locally has remained the same since our dollar
was only worth 60 US cents a few years ago...but now is over 90 cents.
When cornered they admit to charging what the market will bear.
Also, the dealers won't dicker on price. Take it or leave it seems to be
the local dealers mo.

Don White wrote:

Tim wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:50:53 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:


"Woodies" get bad reputations when they are maintained by the same
people
who buy Toyotas.


Toyotas require very little maintenance and last almost forever.

Your point?



Speaking of Toyota:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/...ess/toyota.php


I always thought my next vehicle would be a Toyota (Sienna or
Highlander) but they're screwing us on price here. The spread between a
Toyota price in the US & locally has remained the same since our dollar
was only worth 60 US cents a few years ago...but now is over 90 cents.
When cornered they admit to charging what the market will bear.
Also, the dealers won't dicker on price. Take it or leave it seems to be
the local dealers mo.

If you can't afford it, move on. There's no point in complaining about
the price.

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Dan wrote:
Don White wrote:

Tim wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:50:53 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:


"Woodies" get bad reputations when they are maintained by the same
people
who buy Toyotas.



Toyotas require very little maintenance and last almost forever.

Your point?




Speaking of Toyota:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/...ess/toyota.php


I always thought my next vehicle would be a Toyota (Sienna or
Highlander) but they're screwing us on price here. The spread between
a Toyota price in the US & locally has remained the same since our
dollar was only worth 60 US cents a few years ago...but now is over 90
cents.
When cornered they admit to charging what the market will bear.
Also, the dealers won't dicker on price. Take it or leave it seems to
be the local dealers mo.


If you can't afford it, move on. There's no point in complaining about
the price.



Not just a question of 'affording it'.
Some of us don't like to be taken for rubes.
The car dealers in Calif. must love to see you walk in.

Don White wrote:

Dan wrote:

Don White wrote:

Tim wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:50:53 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:


"Woodies" get bad reputations when they are maintained by the same
people
who buy Toyotas.




Toyotas require very little maintenance and last almost forever.

Your point?





Speaking of Toyota:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/...ess/toyota.php


I always thought my next vehicle would be a Toyota (Sienna or
Highlander) but they're screwing us on price here. The spread between
a Toyota price in the US & locally has remained the same since our
dollar was only worth 60 US cents a few years ago...but now is over
90 cents.
When cornered they admit to charging what the market will bear.
Also, the dealers won't dicker on price. Take it or leave it seems to
be the local dealers mo.



If you can't afford it, move on. There's no point in complaining
about the price.



Not just a question of 'affording it'.
Some of us don't like to be taken for rubes.
The car dealers in Calif. must love to see you walk in.

Next time I'm out that way, I'll let you know. CA is over 2500 miles
from my front door so it might be a while unless I'm there on business.

The dealer in my state has sold me my last three cars. The most recent
was ordered six weeks ago. They aren't discounting MSRP since it's a
new model. He did, however, give me a $500 "courtesy" discount and a
free tow package worth over $500 as a return customer. I emailed two
other local dealers with the same specs and both came back at MSRP. I
do my homework but I don't complain about getting screwed. All
businesses charge what the market will bear. If they don't, they are
out of business very soon and the spread between MSRP and invoice isn't
what it used to be.

Try edmunds.com. I don't know if they have info for Canada but they do
provide some great market pricing information. They will give you what
they call a true market value or "TMV" for any vehicle. That is an
indication of what you can expect to pay for your new tow vehicle.

Dan

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On 22-Dec-2006, Dan wrote:

When cornered they admit to charging what the market will bear.

Everything on the planet, always, is sold at what the market will bear. If
Toyota wants $30K- $40K for a Toyota, they call it a "Lexus."

PT Barnum elaborated on that a hunnerd years ago. (Excuse spelling and
pronunciation....I went to government schools)

On 20-Dec-2006, Wayne.B wrote:

Toyotas require very little maintenance and last almost forever.

Your point?

Comparing a Toyota to a mahogany Grand Banks is like comparing Walmart to
Nordstrom's. Popularity doesn't make something good........look at congress
and the Oopsie Winfrey show.