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Chuck Gould wrote:
wrote:
Large boat needed for photo shoot. Minimal wear and tear may occur
during filming.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/boa/247934310.html

-phish

Mythbusters should consider rewriting the ad.

Instead of paying for an old junk boat to blow up in the show, they
ought to advertise that they will remove one at a very reasonable
price. Would probably get a lot of takers.

There should be many, many boats in the bay area for that purpose. If
you all remember, Calif Bill tried to tell everyone here that it's
common practice and legal for people to just abandon boats in the bay,
and that salvagers could just go pick them up.


Cite?

Calif Bill wrote:


Cite?

Sure!

Dec. 13, 2004 Calif Bill said:

Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying to
get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month slip
for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can see
why
you are not wealthy

Jan. 18, 2005 Calif Bill said:

"At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and dead beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and let the
salvagers go at them."

Which was a total lie, I contacted Pillar Point and got this reply:

Sir,
Please rest assured that this practice is not done at Pillar Point, or
any other marina operated by San Mateo county. Our county prides itself

on being in the forefront of environmental regulation, and to do
anything such as you have described above would, as you have stated,
not only be illegal under California criminal statutes, but also under
the strict guidelines of our state's environmental laws. There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we put

watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area until

either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to licensed

salvagers. Thank you for your interest.

Jan 3 2005 Calif Bill said:
They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

So, there you go Bill.....thanks for playing. I know, I know, you've
once again been proven dead wrong, so you'll resort to childish name
calling, then low life comments about me, my wife and my kids.....

"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:


Cite?

Sure!

Dec. 13, 2004 Calif Bill said:

Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying to
get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month slip
for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can see
why
you are not wealthy

Jan. 18, 2005 Calif Bill said:

"At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and dead beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and let the
salvagers go at them."

Which was a total lie, I contacted Pillar Point and got this reply:

Sir,
Please rest assured that this practice is not done at Pillar Point, or
any other marina operated by San Mateo county. Our county prides itself

on being in the forefront of environmental regulation, and to do
anything such as you have described above would, as you have stated,
not only be illegal under California criminal statutes, but also under
the strict guidelines of our state's environmental laws. There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we put

watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area until

either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to licensed

salvagers. Thank you for your interest.

Jan 3 2005 Calif Bill said:
They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

So, there you go Bill.....thanks for playing. I know, I know, you've
once again been proven dead wrong, so you'll resort to childish name
calling, then low life comments about me, my wife and my kids.....

I'm having a problem with my reading comprehension this morning. In the
above cites I cannot find the part about where the dumping of boats is
legal. I did find something about illegal.

Please point to the "legal" sentence.

ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:


Cite?

Sure!

Dec. 13, 2004 Calif Bill said:

Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying to
get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month slip
for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can see
why
you are not wealthy

Jan. 18, 2005 Calif Bill said:

"At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and dead beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and let the
salvagers go at them."

Which was a total lie, I contacted Pillar Point and got this reply:

Sir,
Please rest assured that this practice is not done at Pillar Point, or
any other marina operated by San Mateo county. Our county prides itself

on being in the forefront of environmental regulation, and to do
anything such as you have described above would, as you have stated,
not only be illegal under California criminal statutes, but also under
the strict guidelines of our state's environmental laws. There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we put

watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area until

either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to licensed

salvagers. Thank you for your interest.

Jan 3 2005 Calif Bill said:
They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

So, there you go Bill.....thanks for playing. I know, I know, you've
once again been proven dead wrong, so you'll resort to childish name
calling, then low life comments about me, my wife and my kids.....

I'm having a problem with my reading comprehension this morning. In the
above cites I cannot find the part about where the dumping of boats is
legal. I did find something about illegal.

Please point to the "legal" sentence.

Go to the thread that I got those from. It went on for months. Calif
Bill said it was legal and common practice for Pillar Point Marina to
run abandoned boats aground and let the salvagers have at them.

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ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:


Cite?

Sure!

Dec. 13, 2004 Calif Bill said:

Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying to
get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month slip
for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can see
why
you are not wealthy

Jan. 18, 2005 Calif Bill said:

"At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and dead beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and let the
salvagers go at them."

Which was a total lie, I contacted Pillar Point and got this reply:

Sir,
Please rest assured that this practice is not done at Pillar Point, or
any other marina operated by San Mateo county. Our county prides itself

on being in the forefront of environmental regulation, and to do
anything such as you have described above would, as you have stated,
not only be illegal under California criminal statutes, but also under
the strict guidelines of our state's environmental laws. There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we put

watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area until

either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to licensed

salvagers. Thank you for your interest.

Jan 3 2005 Calif Bill said:
They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

So, there you go Bill.....thanks for playing. I know, I know, you've
once again been proven dead wrong, so you'll resort to childish name
calling, then low life comments about me, my wife and my kids.....

I'm having a problem with my reading comprehension this morning. In the
above cites I cannot find the part about where the dumping of boats is
legal. I did find something about illegal.

Please point to the "legal" sentence.

Go to the thread that I got those from. It went on for months. Calif
Bill said it was legal and common practice for Pillar Point Marina to
run abandoned boats aground and let the salvagers have at them.

Why should I go there? What you posted to prove your point only disproved
it.

Try again.

ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:


Cite?

Sure!

Dec. 13, 2004 Calif Bill said:

Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying to
get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month slip
for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can see
why
you are not wealthy

Jan. 18, 2005 Calif Bill said:

"At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and dead beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and let the
salvagers go at them."

Which was a total lie, I contacted Pillar Point and got this reply:

Sir,
Please rest assured that this practice is not done at Pillar Point, or
any other marina operated by San Mateo county. Our county prides itself

on being in the forefront of environmental regulation, and to do
anything such as you have described above would, as you have stated,
not only be illegal under California criminal statutes, but also under
the strict guidelines of our state's environmental laws. There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we put

watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area until

either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to licensed

salvagers. Thank you for your interest.

Jan 3 2005 Calif Bill said:
They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

So, there you go Bill.....thanks for playing. I know, I know, you've
once again been proven dead wrong, so you'll resort to childish name
calling, then low life comments about me, my wife and my kids.....

I'm having a problem with my reading comprehension this morning. In the
above cites I cannot find the part about where the dumping of boats is
legal. I did find something about illegal.

Please point to the "legal" sentence.

Go to the thread that I got those from. It went on for months. Calif
Bill said it was legal and common practice for Pillar Point Marina to
run abandoned boats aground and let the salvagers have at them.

Why should I go there?

Because that's the thread where this all came from? Ya think?


What you posted to prove your point only disproved
it.
No, sorry. Apparently you can't read. Again, go to the original thread.
I only posted portions of it for Bill's use, as he apparently didn't
remember making such statements. I love how you people are so
infatuated with me that you read and cling to every single word I type!
Kind of cute!!

"basskisser" wrote in message
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ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:


Cite?

Sure!

Dec. 13, 2004 Calif Bill said:

Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying
to
get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month
slip
for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can
see
why
you are not wealthy

Jan. 18, 2005 Calif Bill said:

"At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and let the
salvagers go at them."

Which was a total lie, I contacted Pillar Point and got this reply:

Sir,
Please rest assured that this practice is not done at Pillar Point,
or
any other marina operated by San Mateo county. Our county prides
itself

on being in the forefront of environmental regulation, and to do
anything such as you have described above would, as you have stated,
not only be illegal under California criminal statutes, but also
under
the strict guidelines of our state's environmental laws. There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we
put

watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area
is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area
until

either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to
licensed

salvagers. Thank you for your interest.

Jan 3 2005 Calif Bill said:
They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

So, there you go Bill.....thanks for playing. I know, I know, you've
once again been proven dead wrong, so you'll resort to childish name
calling, then low life comments about me, my wife and my kids.....

I'm having a problem with my reading comprehension this morning. In
the
above cites I cannot find the part about where the dumping of boats is
legal. I did find something about illegal.

Please point to the "legal" sentence.

Go to the thread that I got those from. It went on for months. Calif
Bill said it was legal and common practice for Pillar Point Marina to
run abandoned boats aground and let the salvagers have at them.

Why should I go there?

Because that's the thread where this all came from? Ya think?


What you posted to prove your point only disproved
it.
No, sorry. Apparently you can't read. Again, go to the original thread.
I only posted portions of it for Bill's use, as he apparently didn't
remember making such statements. I love how you people are so
infatuated with me that you read and cling to every single word I type!
Kind of cute!!

Yep, you are cute.

"basskisser" wrote in message
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ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:


Cite?

Sure!

Dec. 13, 2004 Calif Bill said:

Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying to
get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month slip
for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can see
why
you are not wealthy

Jan. 18, 2005 Calif Bill said:

"At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and dead beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and let the
salvagers go at them."

Which was a total lie, I contacted Pillar Point and got this reply:

Sir,
Please rest assured that this practice is not done at Pillar Point, or
any other marina operated by San Mateo county. Our county prides itself

on being in the forefront of environmental regulation, and to do
anything such as you have described above would, as you have stated,
not only be illegal under California criminal statutes, but also under
the strict guidelines of our state's environmental laws. There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we put

watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area until

either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to licensed

salvagers. Thank you for your interest.

Jan 3 2005 Calif Bill said:
They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

So, there you go Bill.....thanks for playing. I know, I know, you've
once again been proven dead wrong, so you'll resort to childish name
calling, then low life comments about me, my wife and my kids.....

I'm having a problem with my reading comprehension this morning. In the
above cites I cannot find the part about where the dumping of boats is
legal. I did find something about illegal.

Please point to the "legal" sentence.

Go to the thread that I got those from. It went on for months. Calif
Bill said it was legal and common practice for Pillar Point Marina to
run abandoned boats aground and let the salvagers have at them.


There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we put

watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area until

either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to licensed

salvagers..

Where do you think the salvagers work on the boat?

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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ACP wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:


Cite?

Sure!

Dec. 13, 2004 Calif Bill said:

Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying to
get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month slip
for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can see
why
you are not wealthy

Jan. 18, 2005 Calif Bill said:

"At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and dead beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and let the
salvagers go at them."

Which was a total lie, I contacted Pillar Point and got this reply:

Sir,
Please rest assured that this practice is not done at Pillar Point, or
any other marina operated by San Mateo county. Our county prides itself

on being in the forefront of environmental regulation, and to do
anything such as you have described above would, as you have stated,
not only be illegal under California criminal statutes, but also under
the strict guidelines of our state's environmental laws. There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we put

watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area until

either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to licensed

salvagers. Thank you for your interest.

Jan 3 2005 Calif Bill said:
They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

So, there you go Bill.....thanks for playing. I know, I know, you've
once again been proven dead wrong, so you'll resort to childish name
calling, then low life comments about me, my wife and my kids.....

I'm having a problem with my reading comprehension this morning. In the
above cites I cannot find the part about where the dumping of boats is
legal. I did find something about illegal.

Please point to the "legal" sentence.

Go to the thread that I got those from. It went on for months. Calif
Bill said it was legal and common practice for Pillar Point Marina to
run abandoned boats aground and let the salvagers have at them.


There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we put

watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area until

either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to licensed

salvagers..

Where do you think the salvagers work on the boat?

At there salvage yard. But alas, my statement stands. YOU said that the
delta was littered with abandoned boats and that they are everywhere.
Why would the Mythbusters have to advertise for one if, like you have
said, they are everywhere, and that salvagers can just go take what
they want??

"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:


Cite?

Sure!

Dec. 13, 2004 Calif Bill said:

Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions trying to
get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 / month slip
for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can see
why
you are not wealthy

Jan. 18, 2005 Calif Bill said:

"At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and dead beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and let the
salvagers go at them."

Which was a total lie, I contacted Pillar Point and got this reply:

Sir,
Please rest assured that this practice is not done at Pillar Point, or
any other marina operated by San Mateo county. Our county prides itself

on being in the forefront of environmental regulation, and to do
anything such as you have described above would, as you have stated,
not only be illegal under California criminal statutes, but also under
the strict guidelines of our state's environmental laws. There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we put

watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area until

either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to licensed

salvagers. Thank you for your interest.

Jan 3 2005 Calif Bill said:
They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

So, there you go Bill.....thanks for playing. I know, I know, you've
once again been proven dead wrong, so you'll resort to childish name
calling, then low life comments about me, my wife and my kids.....


Why are you denigating your family? They have to put up with you. Where
did I say you can legally abandon your boat? The delta is littered with
abandoned boats. All numbers removed and then the taxpayers get stuck with
the disposal costs. And as I said and Pillar Point confirms. They put the
boat in the box and then legally salvaged. You want to salvage the boat.
Go to the harbor and apply.