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basskisser December 12th 06 05:22 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


RG December 12th 06 05:36 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Because somebody tried to cool their boat cabin with it?



Reginald P. Smithers III December 12th 06 05:41 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 
lolRG wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Because somebody tried to cool their boat cabin with it?


lol that was perfect.

Tim December 12th 06 05:53 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 
It takes a lot of ice to chill a bottle of Schnapps Whiskey.


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
lolRG wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Because somebody tried to cool their boat cabin with it?


lol that was perfect.



basskisser December 12th 06 06:30 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

RG wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Because somebody tried to cool their boat cabin with it?


Idiot.


basskisser December 12th 06 06:31 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

RG wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Because somebody tried to cool their boat cabin with it?


Too dumb to understand the article, huh?


basskisser December 12th 06 06:38 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

Tim wrote:
It takes a lot of ice to chill a bottle of Schnapps Whiskey.


Tell us more about THE transatlantic cable.....

And in case you didn't read, or comprhend, I settled the Schnapps
debate very early on. It's just that some fools can't understand simple
written English.


basskisser December 12th 06 06:41 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
lolRG wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Because somebody tried to cool their boat cabin with it?


lol that was perfect.


Simple minded people are ALWAYS easy to amuse......


Stanley Barthfarkle December 12th 06 06:43 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL



The San Francisco Gate... The bellweather of unbiased journalism. g



Tim December 12th 06 07:00 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

basskisser wrote:
And in case you didn't read, or comprhend,


um, hmm


Tim December 12th 06 07:02 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

basskisser wrote:
And in case you didn't read, or comprhend,
It's just that some fools can't understand simple written English.


brilliant!


Chuck Gould December 12th 06 07:23 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

basskisser wrote:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Ice is a fluid that ebbs and flows

10,000 years ago, there were glaciers covering most of the area where I
now live.
They receded. Undoubtedly was *not* due to a buildup of greenhouse
gasses from the cooking fires of the handful of natives living in the
area.

The earth has been almost steadily "warming" since the last ice age, so
the people who say that this is a natural phenomenon have some science
on their side. At the same time,
it would seem plausible that industrial activities, deforestation, and
combustion of fossil fuels by all manner of vehicles (and vessels!) are
likely contributing to or accelerating the warming.

Will we reorganize societies and economies to reduce greenhouse gasses?
Probably not.
So far, the only real results I can see from all the yakkity yak about
global warming- with people who insist that man is the sole culprit on
one side of the argument and with people who insist that man does not
have the capacity to affect the planet on the other side of the
argument is an increase in methane and carbon dioxide. :-)

It isn't difficult to come up with a list of various species that have
perished on this planet due
to climate change, and it isn't entirely imposible that human beings
might someday be added to that list.

In the final analysis; nobody with a motorized pleasure boat has any
license, at all, to seriously complain about the global consumption of
fossil fuel. (Sort of like Al Gore travelling around in a big SUV). A
true believer would need to sink his or her boat, junk out his or her
car (not just sell it, and transfer the problem to another person), and
take up walking, rowing, and bicycling instead.


Sam December 12th 06 08:06 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

"RG" wrote in message
m...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Because somebody tried to cool their boat cabin with it?


LOL!




basskisser December 12th 06 08:20 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL



The San Francisco Gate... The bellweather of unbiased journalism. g


The San Francisco Gate????? WTF?? David Perlman is the San Francisco
Chronicle Science Writer. And, did you just happen to see that there
were 15,000 scientists at the American Geophysical Union annual meeting
saying the same things? I know, I know, the party that you goose step
to has told you that global warming isn't happening. And what about the
team of scientist from the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the
University of Colorado and the International Arctic Research Center at
the University of Alaska in Fairbanks? Suppose they don't know what
they are talking about, but Rush and Hannity do, huh?

Well, I take it that you don't believe the article? Prove the writer
wrong. I'll be waiting.


basskisser December 12th 06 08:20 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

Tim wrote:
basskisser wrote:
And in case you didn't read, or comprhend,
It's just that some fools can't understand simple written English.


brilliant!


You forgot to tell us about THE transatlantic cable....


basskisser December 12th 06 08:22 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

Tim wrote:
basskisser wrote:
And in case you didn't read, or comprhend,


um, hmm


Awe, how cute. A typo has Tim all in a girlie giggle. Now, tell us more
about THE transatlantic cable. I'd like to hear about it. I understood
there were several, and that the ship you wrote about wasn't even
first, yet you state that it was THE cable....


basskisser December 12th 06 08:23 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

Sam wrote:
"RG" wrote in message
m...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Because somebody tried to cool their boat cabin with it?


LOL!


Simple people are easily amused! Here's what you should do, go and get
yourself a few of those very efficient machines. Report back on the
operating costs, okay?


Tim December 12th 06 08:52 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
basskisser wrote:
And in case you didn't read, or comprhend,


um, hmm


Awe, how cute. A typo has Tim all in a girlie giggle.


when did "um, hmm become a "girlie giggle"?


Sam December 12th 06 09:26 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Sam wrote:
"RG" wrote in message
m...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Because somebody tried to cool their boat cabin with it?


LOL!


Simple people are easily amused! Here's what you should do, go and get
yourself a few of those very efficient machines. Report back on the
operating costs, okay?


LOL!



basskisser December 12th 06 09:43 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

Tim wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
basskisser wrote:
And in case you didn't read, or comprhend,

um, hmm


Awe, how cute. A typo has Tim all in a girlie giggle.


when did "um, hmm become a "girlie giggle"?


When you said it.


Tim December 12th 06 10:03 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

basskisser wrote:

When you said it.


right


ACP December 12th 06 10:48 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 12 Dec 2006 09:22:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Here 'ya go Bassy - instead of the sfgate, try some real science fro
the experts.

Small snippet:

"Analysis of records (Figures 2, 3) also shows that long-term ice
trends are small and generally not statistically significant (at 95%
level), while trends for shorter records are not indicative of the
long-term tendencies due to large-amplitude LFO."

http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~ig.../ice/index.php


Oh boy! Stirring the pot. 8)



Reginald P. Smithers III December 12th 06 10:57 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 12 Dec 2006 09:22:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Here 'ya go Bassy - instead of the sfgate, try some real science fro
the experts.

Small snippet:

"Analysis of records (Figures 2, 3) also shows that long-term ice
trends are small and generally not statistically significant (at 95%
level), while trends for shorter records are not indicative of the
long-term tendencies due to large-amplitude LFO."

http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~ig.../ice/index.php

Tom,
You do know you are debating an issue with someone who believes Schnapps
is a whiskey, even though the source he cited to prove his point stated
Whiskey must be aged in charred oak barrels to be considered a whiskey.

Do you really think you will be able to convince him of anything? Do
you really think you can have an intellectual debate with Bassy

Stanley Barthfarkle December 13th 06 12:02 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

The San Francisco Gate... The bellweather of unbiased journalism. g


The San Francisco Gate????? WTF?? David Perlman is the San Francisco
Chronicle Science Writer. And, did you just happen to see that there
were 15,000 scientists at the American Geophysical Union annual meeting
saying the same things? I know, I know, the party that you goose step
to has told you that global warming isn't happening. And what about the
team of scientist from the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the
University of Colorado and the International Arctic Research Center at
the University of Alaska in Fairbanks? Suppose they don't know what
they are talking about, but Rush and Hannity do, huh?

Well, I take it that you don't believe the article? Prove the writer
wrong. I'll be waiting.




I love you too, man. Peace.



JohnH December 13th 06 12:03 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 
Chuck! *You* got sucked into an obvious troll?



On 12 Dec 2006 11:23:27 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


basskisser wrote:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Ice is a fluid that ebbs and flows

10,000 years ago, there were glaciers covering most of the area where I
now live.
They receded. Undoubtedly was *not* due to a buildup of greenhouse
gasses from the cooking fires of the handful of natives living in the
area.

The earth has been almost steadily "warming" since the last ice age, so
the people who say that this is a natural phenomenon have some science
on their side. At the same time,
it would seem plausible that industrial activities, deforestation, and
combustion of fossil fuels by all manner of vehicles (and vessels!) are
likely contributing to or accelerating the warming.

Will we reorganize societies and economies to reduce greenhouse gasses?
Probably not.
So far, the only real results I can see from all the yakkity yak about
global warming- with people who insist that man is the sole culprit on
one side of the argument and with people who insist that man does not
have the capacity to affect the planet on the other side of the
argument is an increase in methane and carbon dioxide. :-)

It isn't difficult to come up with a list of various species that have
perished on this planet due
to climate change, and it isn't entirely imposible that human beings
might someday be added to that list.

In the final analysis; nobody with a motorized pleasure boat has any
license, at all, to seriously complain about the global consumption of
fossil fuel. (Sort of like Al Gore travelling around in a big SUV). A
true believer would need to sink his or her boat, junk out his or her
car (not just sell it, and transfer the problem to another person), and
take up walking, rowing, and bicycling instead.


--
John H

*Have a great Christmas and a spectacular New Year!*

JohnH December 13th 06 12:05 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:52:25 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 12/12/2006 5:57 PM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 12 Dec 2006 09:22:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL
Here 'ya go Bassy - instead of the sfgate, try some real science fro
the experts.

Small snippet:

"Analysis of records (Figures 2, 3) also shows that long-term ice
trends are small and generally not statistically significant (at 95%
level), while trends for shorter records are not indicative of the
long-term tendencies due to large-amplitude LFO."

http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~ig.../ice/index.php

Tom,
You do know you are debating an issue with someone who believes Schnapps
is a whiskey, even though the source he cited to prove his point stated
Whiskey must be aged in charred oak barrels to be considered a whiskey.

Do you really think you will be able to convince him of anything? Do
you really think you can have an intellectual debate with Bassy



And thus "Reggie" continues in his flaming ass ways...


Hi, Harry!

This was just to give you some of the attention you're obviously lacking.
--
John H

*Have a great Christmas and a spectacular New Year!*

Sam December 13th 06 12:17 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
ps.com...

Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL



The San Francisco Gate... The bellweather of unbiased journalism. g


The San Francisco Gate????? WTF?? David Perlman is the San Francisco
Chronicle Science Writer. And, did you just happen to see that there
were 15,000 scientists at the American Geophysical Union annual meeting
saying the same things? I know, I know, the party that you goose step
to has told you that global warming isn't happening. And what about the
team of scientist from the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the
University of Colorado and the International Arctic Research Center at
the University of Alaska in Fairbanks? Suppose they don't know what
they are talking about, but Rush and Hannity do, huh?

Well, I take it that you don't believe the article? Prove the writer
wrong. I'll be waiting.


LOL!



Tim December 13th 06 12:27 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

basskisser wrote:

Well, I take it that you don't believe the article? Prove the writer
wrong. I'll be waiting.


34 years?


Reginald P. Smithers III December 13th 06 12:30 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 
Tim wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Well, I take it that you don't believe the article? Prove the writer
wrong. I'll be waiting.


34 years?

lol, I am glad I wasn't drinking something.

Chuck Gould December 13th 06 12:33 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

JohnH wrote:
Chuck! *You* got sucked into an obvious troll?



Only to comment that people who consume mass amounts of fuel for
discretionary pursuits, (and that would be virtually all powerboaters),
are a bit light on credentials for griping about global warming.


Dan December 13th 06 01:04 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 
Tim wrote:
basskisser wrote:

Tim wrote:

basskisser wrote:

And in case you didn't read, or comprhend,

um, hmm


Awe, how cute. A typo has Tim all in a girlie giggle.



when did "um, hmm become a "girlie giggle"?


Relax. Simple boys are easily amused.

--
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Dan December 13th 06 01:07 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On 12 Dec 2006 09:22:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL



Here 'ya go Bassy - instead of the sfgate, try some real science fro
the experts.

Small snippet:

"Analysis of records (Figures 2, 3) also shows that long-term ice
trends are small and generally not statistically significant (at 95%
level), while trends for shorter records are not indicative of the
long-term tendencies due to large-amplitude LFO."

http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~ig.../ice/index.php


Thanks for the post, SWS, but aren't you the "STOP IT" guy? We all know
the boy lives to pick fights here and will spin them at will until the
other party is exhausted.

Dan

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Dan December 13th 06 01:09 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 
Harry Krause wrote:

On 12/12/2006 5:57 PM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On 12 Dec 2006 09:22:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL

Here 'ya go Bassy - instead of the sfgate, try some real science fro
the experts.

Small snippet:

"Analysis of records (Figures 2, 3) also shows that long-term ice
trends are small and generally not statistically significant (at 95%
level), while trends for shorter records are not indicative of the
long-term tendencies due to large-amplitude LFO."

http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~ig.../ice/index.php


Tom,
You do know you are debating an issue with someone who believes
Schnapps is a whiskey, even though the source he cited to prove his
point stated Whiskey must be aged in charred oak barrels to be
considered a whiskey.

Do you really think you will be able to convince him of anything? Do
you really think you can have an intellectual debate with Bassy




And thus "Reggie" continues in his flaming ass ways...


I don't know how you define a "flame" but this isn't even close.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Dan December 13th 06 01:55 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:07:47 -0500, Dan
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On 12 Dec 2006 09:22:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:



http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Here 'ya go Bassy - instead of the sfgate, try some real science fro
the experts.

Small snippet:

"Analysis of records (Figures 2, 3) also shows that long-term ice
trends are small and generally not statistically significant (at 95%
level), while trends for shorter records are not indicative of the
long-term tendencies due to large-amplitude LFO."

http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~ig.../ice/index.php


Thanks for the post, SWS, but aren't you the "STOP IT" guy? We all know
the boy lives to pick fights here and will spin them at will until the
other party is exhausted.



See any names called in that?

It's just a counter to a sfgate article that has...um....mistakes.


Nope. I was referring to Kevin, not you.

--
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ACP December 13th 06 02:13 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:48:18 -0500, "ACP" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On 12 Dec 2006 09:22:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL

Here 'ya go Bassy - instead of the sfgate, try some real science fro
the experts.

Small snippet:

"Analysis of records (Figures 2, 3) also shows that long-term ice
trends are small and generally not statistically significant (at 95%
level), while trends for shorter records are not indicative of the
long-term tendencies due to large-amplitude LFO."

http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~ig.../ice/index.php


Oh boy! Stirring the pot. 8)


Not at all.

Just pointing out that science is science. And these guys know ice
science.


Some folks don't like to have anything pointed out to them, credible science
or not.



Paul F December 13th 06 02:56 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:57:59 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On 12 Dec 2006 09:22:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL

Here 'ya go Bassy - instead of the sfgate, try some real science fro
the experts.

Small snippet:

"Analysis of records (Figures 2, 3) also shows that long-term ice
trends are small and generally not statistically significant (at 95%
level), while trends for shorter records are not indicative of the
long-term tendencies due to large-amplitude LFO."

http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~ig.../ice/index.php


Tom,
You do know you are debating an issue with someone who believes Schnapps
is a whiskey, even though the source he cited to prove his point stated
Whiskey must be aged in charred oak barrels to be considered a whiskey.

Do you really think you will be able to convince him of anything? Do
you really think you can have an intellectual debate with Bassy



I believe that, despite opinions to the contrary, that Bassy can, and
does, look at contrarian technical evidence presented without rancor
and discuss it rationally.


And you believe in Santa Claus too.....right?????

ACP December 13th 06 02:57 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:57:59 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 12 Dec 2006 09:22:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL

Here 'ya go Bassy - instead of the sfgate, try some real science fro
the experts.

Small snippet:

"Analysis of records (Figures 2, 3) also shows that long-term ice
trends are small and generally not statistically significant (at 95%
level), while trends for shorter records are not indicative of the
long-term tendencies due to large-amplitude LFO."

http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~ig.../ice/index.php

Tom,
You do know you are debating an issue with someone who believes Schnapps
is a whiskey, even though the source he cited to prove his point stated
Whiskey must be aged in charred oak barrels to be considered a whiskey.

Do you really think you will be able to convince him of anything? Do
you really think you can have an intellectual debate with Bassy


I believe that, despite opinions to the contrary, that Bassy can, and
does, look at contrarian technical evidence presented without rancor
and discuss it rationally.


There goes another Diet Coke all over the keyboard....



Reginald P. Smithers III December 13th 06 04:56 AM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:57:59 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 12 Dec 2006 09:22:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL
Here 'ya go Bassy - instead of the sfgate, try some real science fro
the experts.

Small snippet:

"Analysis of records (Figures 2, 3) also shows that long-term ice
trends are small and generally not statistically significant (at 95%
level), while trends for shorter records are not indicative of the
long-term tendencies due to large-amplitude LFO."

http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~ig.../ice/index.php

Tom,
You do know you are debating an issue with someone who believes Schnapps
is a whiskey, even though the source he cited to prove his point stated
Whiskey must be aged in charred oak barrels to be considered a whiskey.

Do you really think you will be able to convince him of anything? Do
you really think you can have an intellectual debate with Bassy


I believe that, despite opinions to the contrary, that Bassy can, and
does, look at contrarian technical evidence presented without rancor
and discuss it rationally.

Tom,
I wish you the best of luck. It will be interesting to see this progress.

basskisser December 13th 06 12:44 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

Tim wrote:
basskisser wrote:

When you said it.


right


Glad you agree!


basskisser December 13th 06 12:47 PM

Arctic Ice Could Be Gone by 2040
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 12 Dec 2006 09:22:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGE5MTQ211.DTL


Here 'ya go Bassy - instead of the sfgate, try some real science fro
the experts.


Where you are dead wrong is your belief that the "science" in the
article came from sfgate. It didn't. Try reading again. You'll see
where it came from, including NASA. As for your article, what makes you
think that THAT particular article is good, sound science, but articles
to the contrary from other scholars and study centers is not? Just
because it doesn't fit your party's agenda, perhaps?



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